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Smart, very smart. I'd join him/her if I was there. As JFK said: "[When] you ride the back of the Tiger you soon end up inside." paraphrasing somewhat, but, we must keep from "being used" by a user.
Why on earth would you have a photo op when you're going to apologise to grieving children about their mates getting killed?
So you can exploit the situation for your own political benefit. Trump doesn't give a shit. He just wants to be seen to be giving a shit.
The top story on the Beeb at the moment is Trump's proposed solution to school shootings. Very predictably, it does not involve stopping determined child killers from acquiring guns. Rather, Trump says we should give out MORE guns, this time to teachers, who can apparently "help" by doubling the amount of bullets flying around the classroom. Indeed, his proposition will lead to teachers themselves shooting children. It is absolute MADNESS! America is a country which has literally gone mad.
You hypocrite! Obama had two years with Democrat control of the House and Senate, and guess what? NO GUN REGULATIONS PASSED!
He spent his entire time pushing through the hideous Obamacare nightmare.
Democrats also refuse to pass anti Gun regulations because the voters don't want what they are pushing!
New York State pushed through their so called anti gun Safe Act and guess what? It did not single out assault weapons, etc. It made any hunting gun in our homes illegal if they held more than seven rounds.
This is what the Left wants to do, and is why the voters vote them out if they try to take our hunting guns.
As some Republicans are apparently just now learning - a majority does not "control" the Senate, but 60 votes.
Dems had 60 votes in the Senate for 4 months and 10 days (from Sep 26, 2009 to Feb 4, 2010) - and those 132 days included 38 weekend days, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, etc., etc.
So you refuse to answer the question, What a shock!
On more time, you said it takes 60 votes which the Democrats got for Obamacare without one GOP vote. Why did they not pass gun control measures without one GOP vote?
LMMFAO Progressive why could the Progressives not pass a major gun control measure between 2008 and 2010 when Progressives had control of both the House and the Senate? Come on explain yourself and you can't lay blame on Republicans
"Obama: Senate Failure to Pass Gun Bill Is 'Shameful Day for Washington'
Apparently speaking without notes, President Obama stood in front of parents who lost children at Newtown and Gabby Giffords and furiously criticized the Senate and the NRA for a failure to break the Republican filibuster on background checks."
Democrats talk a big game, but when it comes down to their votes taking our gun freedoms, they always back down and blame the Republicans.... just as you just did.
Obama can't, or couldn't pass gun regulations, the Do-Nothing Congress must do that. He knew if he spit out EO's like Trump, he would just invigorate RW government purchasers to invest more money in defense of the NRA. THAT would, likely, get MORE crazies in Congress and be counteractive to sanity. Hopefully, when these "kids", you know, the well educated ones from that "government school"? Get the point across that 67% of Americans agree with, we can start to get done what HE would like to have got done!
By the way. People with guns have killed more Americans than unnecessary abortion has over the last few years, destroyed more families, hurt our standing in the world, etc..
AR-15's and Kalashnikovs and Uzi's and a host of military weapons are as much "hunting weapons" as an M1-A1 Tank! No one is after your 30-30 or shotgun!
Crazy Bowel Al of Road Island are you really making claim that a Do-Nothing Congress of Progressives did not pass what was called "The Law of The Land" so named Obamacare ?
Why did the Progressives who had control of both the House and the Senate then not pass major gun law legislation ?
You avoiding the failures of Obama on gun control is blatantly obvious !
In reality there is more support from gun ownership rights groups (Gun Owning Americans) than there is from control groups (Opposed to Guns Americans), otherwise the laws would have been changed by now. There are however a boat load of laws on the books that should prevent these tragedies, but they are not enforced as they should be. Adding more laws that won't be followed will do no good. Banning all guns won't happen.
BUT! Extending waiting periods for more extensive checks and banning private sales without an FFL transfer with check is something the majority of gun owners should agree on. The problem is their fears of the "give an inch they take a mile".
Such a retard that you don't even know how your own legislative process works. It has to pass through congress. For almost the entire time Obama was President, Congress had a Republican majority.
It was your fucking moron party that refused to pass gun legislation.
Crazy Bowel Al of Road Island why is it from 2008 to 2010 when the Progressives controlled the House and the Senate they could not pass a major gun control measure ?
Explain it and do it without blame unless you are going to blame your own party Al !
Crazy Al of Road Island what your Progressive Media is doing is using the children as political pawns in their political game. They care nothing about the children other than using them to push their ideology of gun confiscation.
Trump is the problem personified. He is such a turd, he’ll probably make it look like it was his idea not to take a photograph.
When not one person thinks a policy is a good thing, and you take the money from the organization to proport the policy, it makes you a whore. And you can take a whore to prom, and a few will be jealous, but it’s just not worth the chance of catching a horrible disease. My metaphor may have broken down, but you get it.
if Mosquitoes made contributions to senators, buying bug spray would be illegal. No one person wants to see all these guns on the street, but they care much more about their party being in power. Obama’s to blame, cause he made up the gun laws, cause he changed the governments lobbying laws, or cause he was trying to get the victims of gun violence some health care, because no one is spending millions of dollars to keep healthcare out of reach to regular American. Oh, I may be off on that last one.
These kids are dealing with trauma that most of us will never go through. Who the hell cares if they refuse a photo op with Trump. This is not the time for him or anyone else to demand or request anything from them other than to heal and find themselves again.
Something needs to be done about these mass shootings, the Right is so afraid that gun control means gun banning and the Left is so determined that gun control becomes gun banning, and while they argue and bicker and point fingers, more of our children and our people get shot. It's disgusting and disheartening.
Hey, if Trump were to survive a mass shooting and someone like Comey came to address it and then offered a photo op then I could imagine Trump quite easily saying no to it. People think these things are smart as long as they're the side doing the protesting.
Well you mother fucking, diseased paedophile. why then didn't the previous numerous Democrat and Republican presidents take the necessary action to harness the gun laws before now?
Like you, you filthy children abuser the mindless fool KJV attributed the gun problem exclusively at the feet of President Trump.
Why do paedophile bastards like you decide that the entire gun issue was caused by President Trump in his short term of office when the problem has been around since 1791?
It's brainless shit-bag fucks like you who bellow bullshit and criticize those who are grappling with the problem but don't present any ideas of their own.
You haven't the brains nor the balls to formulate a practical alternative to the status quo and post your comprehensive plan of action for us to laugh at.
Every site has to have its big mouthed mother fucking, child molesting idiot and you are the CD's prize fucking paedo, imbecile.
Stop fucking your syphilis ridden slut mother, cease molesting children and seek psychological help.
If the real reasons for more gun control legislation is to save lives, why won't the Left support back ground checks in public places that sell alcohol to possible repeat DWI offenders?
I don't want this, but if your goal is to save lives with all your anti Gun rhetoric, you should be over joyed to save many thousands more lives by having background checks on people before buying alcohol in public places.
Do you have any idea how many times repeat DWI drivers continue to drink and drive? They drive even when their licenses are revoked! How many bus loads of children have been killed by drunk drivers? Where is the outcry?
The only way to prevent this is to do a background check before they buy that weapon of death.....ALCOHOL!
Wait, what you say? You say you don't want to be inconvienenced by background checks when buying alcohol? You say you are a law abiding citizen who would never drink and drive?
You say you don't want to pay more for alcohol to pay for those background checks for past DWI drivers?
I THOUGHT YOUR GOAL WAS TO SAVE LIVES? You expect law abiding citizens to pay more and put up with all the inconvenience from your anti gun legislation, but when it comes to your alcohol...... HANDS OFF?
A drunk driver behind the wheels of a car happens millions of times more often than some lunatic with a gun! The odds of you or your loved one being killed by a drunk driver is far higher than the odds of being shot at a concert or Church or school.
Anti gun people are hypocrites and total jokes. They could not care less about saving lives. Their final goal is to take our guns.
They always spew their ludicrous reasoning why only guns should be singled out to save lives. A police state is just fine as long as it only controls one particular weapon of death..... the gun.
You say we already have alcohol restrictions? Yes, and we already have gun restrictions. You can't buy a gun under age, the same as alcohol. We can't shoot people, you can't hunt near public places and you can not drink and drive. BUT PEOPLE STILL DO IT!
IT'S NOT THE WEAPON OF CHOICE, BUT THE PERSON BEHIND THAT WEAPON. Use the brain God gave you and start addressing why people grow up to be criminals, or become irresponsible drinkers who have no problem drinking and driving.
Start addressing the core problem instead of their weapon of choice.
Keep in mind this, ‘person’ literally can’t keep from screaming in the first sentence that it’s all the liberals fault. And then start blithering how guns are equal to alcoholics driving. To equivocate the legal and fun practise of inbibing alcohol to going into a school and purposefully murdering 30 people isn’t even in the realm of being the same. The truth is that once people have committed crimes relating to alcohol, they are placed in prison or on probation, both of which limits thier ability to consume alcohol. So why not impose the same limits to guns. Put laws in place that govern who and how many, them when these laws are broken, seek to limit that persons access to said weopons.
In fact the gun control people are not irrational liberals who want to take your guns. They are just smart, law abiding citizens who see that there is a problem in the US, a problem that can’t be solved by running out to purchase an Arsenal and then blowing innocent people’s heads off.
Nothing is solved in society when we permit wonton stupidity, it’s the same reason we don’t let 9 year olds drive.
The government couldn't take the illegal weapons from thugs, gangs, and robbers. So it tries to take the weapons from the citizens making them an easy target for the bad guys mentioned earlier. How smart is that?
The government can’t take illegal weapons because they allowed the NRA so much leverage, that weapons of all kinds were sold by the hundreds of thousands at gun shows, with no registering, no back checks, no responsibility whatsoever. That’s so fucking stupid, that now they are claiming that all teachers and faculty should have weopons?!??! How many children have to get shot before you guys get it. You FUCKED up, and now you have to eat the shit they served you, or you could stand up and make sure everyone knows that your stance is not the elimination of guns but responsible use and ownership, or let some moron teacher shoot your kid in the face cause he was holding a drum stand.
Are you playing games with me, or are you actually trying to be serious?
The Left is the one that has proposed gun control a million times when ever there is a shooting. They pretend to care about the lives of people being killed.
WHY IS IT WHEN EVER THERE IS A BUS LOAD OF CHILDREN KILLED BY A DRUNK DRIVER, THOSE ON THE LEFT ARE NOT OUTRAGED, AND ALL OVER THE MEDIA TRYING TO GET BACKGROUND CHECKS ON PEOPLE BUYING ALCOHOL IN A BAR?
IT WOULD SAVE THOUSANDS MORE LIVES THEN THEIR LUDICROUS GUN CONTROL MEASURES THAT IN MOST CASES WOULD NEVER HAVE PREVENTED THE SHOOTINGS.
Just Google "legislation stop dwi buying alcohol" and you'll find a host of states and counties ranging all across the political spectrum who are trying to do what you proposed. Democrats and Democrat led states are not opposing sensible drunk driving laws.
I have been watching these phonies in our Government for decades, AND NEVER ONCE HAVE I HEARD A DEMOCRAT PUSH FOR LEGISLATION TO CREATE BACKGROUND CHECKS TO PREVENT PRIOR DRUNK DRIVERS FROM GETTING DRINKS IN A BAR!
Never once do i listen to all the Liberal media screaming and whining and crying when a bus load of children are killed by a drunk driver. No demands for legislation preventing repeat drunk drivers from buying alcohol!
They drive without licenses so the only answer is to prevent them from buying the alcohol in public places. Gee, that sounds just like the gun control rhetoric doesn't it?
Why do we never hear it on the media? It's because these total hypocrites like to drink, but they don't care about guns.
The idea is generally not pursued because people think focusing on the driving side and treatment is the better way to go (and there are things like religious ceremonies with alcohol, etc. to consider.) refref
There is no debater on this site with a narrower more partisan view of sociopolitical issues than you, so when you say you’ve watched for decades and never seen it what we hear is you’ve wallowed in Republican conservatism for years and are incapable of seeing anything else. Or reading it, thus your rich history of banning opposing views.
Take your response, and change the topic from gun control to abortion. If you are capable of being honest, you will see how you fit your description to a tee of people having a narrow partisan view of sociopolitical issues.
You have wallowed in Liberal pro abortion rhetoric for decades and are incapable of seeing that the vast majority of Americans want restrictions on abortions. Yet here you are STILL supporting No Restriction abortions kept legal by the Left.
"There is no debater on this site with a narrower more partisan view of sociopolitical issues than (Grenache), so when you say you’ve watched for decades and never seen it what we hear is you’ve wallowed in (Democrat Conservatism) for years and are incapable of seeing anything else. Or reading it, thus your rich history of banning opposing views."
Here's what's wrong with trying to flip it that way:
1) I'm not narrowed, or partisan, I'm an independent moderate, and I have indeed criticized Democrats in past debates as well.
2) I have not argued that based on my personal observation over decades something has never happened. That's your line of argument.
3) Objecting to abortion restrictions is NOT wallowing in Democrat Liberalism, because a) There are pro choice Republicans, b) The vast majority of world nations have sided with pro choice and the whole world isn't Democrat Liberals.
4) I have zero history of banning an opposing view. Never. Not even once. You have a rich history of it.
YOU ARE IN THE VAST MINORITY OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT RESTRICTIONS ON LATE TERM ABORTIONS! You support it with your vote!
You are as radical and extreme as it comes on the issue of abortion. You vote for radical pro abortion politicians who will never compromise on restrictions for abortions.
You voted for Hillary who said all abortions should be left up to the Mother and her Doctor.
That is a radical abortion stance, and most other nations DO HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON LATE TERM ABORTIONS!
You are exactly like people who refuse to compromise on common sense Gun control.
Nope. I and most others you accuse of that on this site have already debated late term abortions as well as political votes with you many times. You're just repeating the same old smear.
Nomenclature admitted to being a potal tot head and a drunken buffoon. I agree that dems are drunkards. All the dems I know literally get drunk and do drugs.
Crazy Al what is stupid is why didn't the Progressive controlled Congress under Obama not pass sweeping gun control laws? Explain without blame because it had nothing to do with Republicans. Answer the question Al and if you lay blame your narrative fails.
Progressive i will say again is there a Progressive out there that can answer this question ?
Under the Obama Regime the Progressive controlled Congress had 2 years to pass major gun control measures without opposition from Republicans. So why was it not done ?
Incorrect. Dems had 60 votes in the Senate for 4 months and 10 days (from Sep 26, 2009 to Feb 4, 2010) - and those 132 days included 38 weekend days, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, etc., etc.
Heard of this kid. He’s basically the lefts spoke person now for gun control. His dads a former FBI an gent. He seems to love CNN(not a bad thing. Even though I am an alt right conservative).
