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Debate Score:30
Arguments:33
Total Votes:38
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Tax payer funded abortin.

I have the religious right to not pay for something I don't believe in.

Yes.

Side Score: 17
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No.

Side Score: 13
2 points

By prioritizing the monetary consideration of the contentious issue of abortion you have downgraded, if not eliminated the moral element of the matter.

This being the case we must only assess the financial cost comparisons between the taxpayer funding a termination and the protracted expense of rearing of an unwanted child.

The answer doesn't require a calculator to complete a cost comparison.

Side: Yes.
FromWithin(6483) Disputed Banned
1 point

Under your logic, it's funny how the Left does not want to kill all prisoners to save money.

Lets see, Democrats even support killing innocent viable unborn babies, while holding over night vigils to save the life of a mass murderer.

Talk about screwed up priorities.

Side: No.
Kalamazoo(317) Disputed
1 point

Your diversionary tactic is sort of obvious.

Your thread was presenting the fact that taxpayers money is spent on abortions.

I was comparing the expense of this surgical operation with the ongoing expense of the state,( taxpayer) having to meet the cost of bringing up an unwanted, illegitimate child.

Everything else is deadwood.

Side: Yes.
0 points

Tax payers in many states are forced to pay for abortions by poor women through MEDICAID! We are already being forced to pay for abortion while these pathetic pro abortion liars talk about the Hyde amendment.

This is what pro abortion supporters do to deceive the public & hide the inhumanity of their policies. They constantly distort and lie about what is going on.

1) Steer the abortion conversation to life of mother & rape pregnancies, to Zygotes & first trimester abortions, all to deflect what they really support which is No Restriction abortions of all babies, even viable babies for any reason up to birth. This is the first thing pro choice people do. The GOP has allowed extreme case exceptions since abortion was legalized yet we still hear every day about these extreme rare cases. Lie, deceive, exaggerate, etc. all to condition the electorate to think the GOP wil deny these extreme case abortions.(by the way, rape pregnancies can be prevented within a day or two with a doctor visit)

2) They talk about the medical name of an unborn Baby..... Fetus. By using the name Fetus, they somehow believe it changes the status of the life growing inside the mother. Somehow in their thinking, a Baby that has not yet traveled through the birth canal is somehow different than it is after it is has moved down that canal. WOW, TALK ABOUT DENIAL!

3) They talk about the supposed hard life these unwanted children will have if allowed to live. So in all their God like powers, they know the future of every Baby aborted? How many great people have come from poverty or foster homes, etc.? To be so arrogant to allow the deaths of innocent life because of some perceived hard life is beyond diabolical.

4) Pro choice people like to say they do not personally believe in abortion, but would afford other's the choice to end the lives of their unborn Babies. Gee, how nice of them. I always wonder how a person who personally believes that aborting his own Baby is wrong because it is ending a human life, can support allowing other babies to die. HYPOCRITE PHONEY!

5) After all the scare tactics and deceptions, their next step is to lie and say they do not support late term abortions for any reason. They refuse to accept accountability for supporting all late term abortions of even viable babies every time they vote for Democrats who support it.

6) The Democrat Party and the Left even supports killing viable special needs babies, for any reason up to birth, for merely being different from them. That's like the Nazi mentality where we only want blond haired blue eyed people being born in Germany. In all their arrogance, they will deem who is deservng of life. Where is all their talk about diversity, inclusiveness, compassion? I guess these special olympic children actully mean nothing to them. Their lives are disposable.

I am not here trying to judge any woman who has had an abortion. I'm trying to bring humanity back to our nation by protecting our most innocent vulnerable lives.

Side: Yes.
2 points

Wait, aren't you conservatives always complaining our tax dollars aren't used effectively? Here you've got a program resulting in boatloads of what it's designed to do.

Side: No.
KJVPrewrath(949) Disputed
1 point

I am a centrist. I don't fit in either party. I refuse tolerate paying for things that violate my religion like abortion. Liberals have no respect fopr religious liberty, which is a right.

Side: Yes.
FromWithin(6483) Disputed Banned
0 points

Here we have it folks. When killing innocent babies saves money, these hypocritical so called tolerant inclusive Left wing phonies are all for it!

Side: Yes.
Grenache(6104) Disputed Banned
0 points

What I wrote was clearly sarcasm while what you wrote was a comedy abortion.

Side: No.

Tax payer funded abortin.

No, absolutely not. For taxpayers to pay for abortions that they don't support is like Mexicans paying for a wall. You shouldn't be forced to pay for something you don't believe in. I'm not expected to tithe by my local synagogue, so why should I be expected to pay for abortions?

Side: No.
2 points

Right? I'm not a conservative, but I am with conservatives on religious liberty.........................

Side: No.
AlofRI(1866) Clarified
1 point

So, imagine YOUR tax money paying for a school or hospital. They can use MY money to help a mother get out of a situation she can't afford, either financially of health-wise. There are many who believe in CHOICE when necessary.

Side: Yes.
1 point

So, imagine YOUR tax money paying for a school or hospital.

I don't understand your analogy. I would support my tax money going to schools and hospitals. I wouldn't support my tax money going to abortion clinics.

They can use MY money to help a mother get out of a situation she can't afford, either financially of health-wise

Ah, okay. So, you think that if a woman can't afford to have a baby because she doesn't have enough money for it, she should get an abortion? There are these things, they're called adoption agencies. As for the health-wise situation, I'd like to see an example of when this has actually happened because while all you 'pro-choicers' love to use it, you never support it with instances.

Side: Yes.
2 points

Yes! Of course! Let's tax the conservatives and use the money to kill the future children we don't want!

IF YOU DON'T WANT KIDS DONT HAVE SEX!

And if you don't want or can't sustain the child that you are going to have, there is such thing as a foster home.

Side: No.
0 points

Where are you paying for abortion?? Certainly not at Planned Parenthood. Not anywhere else either. That's another right wing propaganda that's taken hold. You may pay for it to save the life of a mother (or wife, daughter, sister, friend), but not just as a frivolous abortion. I've been through that, I'm sorry, there isn't an embryo around that was worth my wife's, my daughter's mother's LIFE! O.K., here come the you tubers.

Side: No.
KJVPrewrath(949) Disputed
2 points

Radical proaboirtion feminist who don't know a mother's place and refuse to use birth control are bitching about the Hyde Amendment, and pushing for free abortions up to 6 months like England.

Side: Yes.
AlofRI(1866) Clarified
1 point

So, you're saying you have the right to push YOUR agenda, but they don't have a right to push theirs? Everybody has a right, in this country, to push their agenda. The government is elected to decide ALONG THE LINES OF THE MAJORITY (and within the law) to pass laws that legitimize or de-legitimize those agendas. The right of a woman to CHOOSE has been legitimized. Some don't like it, the majority does ... within reason. I think medical decisions should be left up to doctors and patients, NOT politicians with an agenda! You are a Christian. You don't seem to have much faith that "God" will judge.

Radical antiabortionists who don't know a mothers situation and refuse to pay for birth control, when it's birth control or food for her kids, should not push strict agendas. Let the doctor and the mother decide.

By the way, there is a majority of men out there who refuse to use THEIR birth control, and few women who can force them! When you have no "choice" on that end, often it is necessary to have choice on the other. Some can't see the forest for the trees. Even now there are thousands of kids up for adoption that DON'T get adopted. Is it better to abort a fetus that you can't afford, that you can't provide health care for, that you can't afford to feed, that you must take already meager nourishment from other children to give to a new one? The mother KNOWS her situation, the doctor knows (likely) the situation. The Pastor might too, but is blinded by an agenda. CHOICE! A religion is not the answer to everything, especially when IT does the judging the "god" is supposed to do.

Side: Yes.
AlofRI(1866) Clarified
0 points

Well, we all have a right to push our agenda. It should be left to the MAJORITY, the VOTE. The SCOTUS has ruled, if anything should be changed it should be left up to the PEOPLE (by full majority), who are more liberal than a conservatively stacked SCOTUS. No minority agenda should rule. That's democracy.

Side: Yes.
outlaw60(12699) Disputed
1 point

Crazy Al can you explain why you Progressives cry and complain about PPH being defunded if taxpayer dollars are not already funding a private company ? Crazy Al the only Propaganda we have here is your Inability to understand that taxpayer dollars fund abortion if that were not True then you Progressives would not care if PPH was defunded !

Side: Yes.
1 point

Where are you paying for abortion?? Certainly not at Planned Parenthood. Not anywhere else either.

I don't think you understood the debate. It's asking if abortions should be funded by tax payers, which it shouldn't.

I'm sorry, there isn't an embryo around that was worth my wife's, my daughter's mother's LIFE!

I'm sure there isn't, but how common are pregnancies that threaten the mother's life, exactly? I'd honestly like to know.

Side: Yes.
FromWithin(6483) Disputed Banned
0 points

You must be too old to be on a debate site when you constantly lie!

Have you heard of MEDICAID? Tax payers in many states are forced to pay for the abortions of poor women through medicaid!

Stop bringing up your ludicrous excuses of life of other abortions! NO ONE IS TRYING TO PREVENT THOSE!

Side: Yes.
KJVPrewrath(949) Disputed
1 point

I'm against most abortions, but for medicaid, which does not fund abortion, yet. Hyde Amendmnent, look it up, which feminazi whores are trying to abolish. I am for healthcare which is prolife, and not for abortion. Hopw many times must we discuss this? I am alive because of medicaid, and since my life is in danger, will be having brain surgery to save my life. I am grateful don't get me wrong, but it chickens my nuggets when you think all medicaid patients are proabortion. I left the feminist movement, end of story. Friend, I am a member of a prolife group of democrats. I oppose most abortions, most capital punishments, all torture, most wars, and all eugenics. Ask me any question you wasnt, but I'm IN LOVE with Jesus and the Bible.

Side: No.