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 Tell the truth, are you homophobic? (38)

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Tell the truth, are you homophobic?

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2 points

I don't have a problem with homosexuals per se but the super flamboyant ones get on my nerves pretty bad and if I have to see acts of homosexuality that will piss me off.

There are a lot of mannerisms of gay people that can also piss me off but in general I don't hate gayness or gay people in and of itself, just certain things that are associated with it and the direct exposure to explicit homosexual activities which I would rather avoid. Which is why I would never be caught looking through Nathan Allen's internet search history.

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Scared of the dark, you need therapy. Scared of spiders, you need therapy. Scared of outside? You need therapy. Scared of people? You need therapy.

Scared of a car with sugar in the tank?

It seems to me that some irrational fears are considered intolerable by those with little mercy in their heart.

If you are homophobic you definitely do need therapy in my opinion so I agree.

TzarPepe(763) Clarified
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Seriously, how could you even function in a world today?

I'd imagine that homophobia would be a real debilitating condition.

I am not homophobic, I would have some bisexual intimacy if the opportunity arose and enjoy it.

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Grab em by the weenie eh G?

GoodListener(603) Clarified
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Not you, but 'them' maybe yes.

It's true. Liberals don't mind if Muslims kill gays or if nonliberal gays are persecuted. They only mind if the ones they want to attack on this issue are Conservatives. It's why so many prominant gays switched to the right or are on the right, like Milo Yiannopoulis, Dave Rubin of the former Liberal "Rubin Report", Peter Thiel, who spoke at the Republican National Convention to applause, and our very own conservative transgender "Woman of the year", Caitlyn Jenner.

Atrag(5666) Disputed
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Of course they care if gays are killed. God you're a twat.

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When you defend groups that kill gays, it means you don't care about gays. The left has critisized Conservatives as not caring about gays simply for supporting a bakery's right to not bake a gay wedding cake, with no killing involved.

If you defend the KKK, you don't care about black people. If you defend Islam, Islam is more important in your jacked up list of priorities than women's or gay rights.

When a group, in this case the left, demonizes Conservative values, and then excuses and supports ultra Conservative values on steroids (Islam), that's what hypocrisy that is beyond the pale looks like. It's also what a big old pile of bull sh*t and fake "morality" looks like.

Milo Yiannopoulos-

https://youtu.be/i3L2KpmEhAY

Peter Thiel at RNC-

https://youtu.be/UTJB8AkT1dk

Dave Rubin "Why I left the Left"-

https://youtu.be/hiVQ8vrGA8

Caitlyn Jenner/Bruce Jenner "Woman of the Year" speech-

https://youtu.be/HYj4-EroNo

And, the left has become so vile and insane, that rabid leftists like Penn Jilette swapped sides, and Sam Harris is considering the switch while chastizing what's left of logic and common sense within his party.

Penn Jilette, leaving the left-

https://youtu.be/OG3Kyk3Xc5A

Sam Harris "Why Trump won"-

https://youtu.be/jAAxTzBBvI

EldonG(530) Clarified
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Sam Harris has always been pretty centrist, and Penn Jilette is a left-leaning libertarian...though neither is gay, so why are they brought up? Rubin didn't have a problem with the left's stance on homosexuality...I'm just not sure why some have been brought into this debate.

Caitlyn Jenner was always supported on her sex-change by the left, and opposed by the right, regardless of political beliefs. The left doesn't have a problem with Milo being gay, they have issues with his politics, and don't get why he sides with rabid anti-gay politicians. Personally, I always thought it would be best to let him speak. I doubt it'll bring any understanding, but hey, I believe in the first amendment.

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Sam Harris is 100% a Democrat funded

puppet.

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and don't get why he sides with rabid anti-gay politicians

The right isn't particularly all that "anti gay" anymore, and he sees Islam as rabidly anti gay, the very Islam that the left violently supports with a passion. Meaning? When the left took the "defend Islam at all costs" stance, they lost any credibility on gay rights or feminism, and have actually become a political threat themselves to feminism and gay rights by protecting a group that is anti-gay and anti-feminism.

The left is Orwellian doublethink that is beyond the pale. Claiming to hate Conservatism while defending ultra Conservatism that is borderline Nazi-esque from Islam is an oxymoron on steroids.

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Rubin didn't have a problem with the left's stance on homosexuality

But does have a problem with the left's attempts to muzzle non-liberal speech, protect Islam while attacking "religion", denial of Islamic attacks being a problem, and attempts to make people design cakes that go against their beliefs.

He also thinks the left's claims of black oppression are mainly a calculated lie for political expediency, and that the left's protection of Islam is a threat to gay and female rights.

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Personally, I always thought it would be best to let him speak

But in reality, rabid leftists used firebombs, attacks on police, looting, building destruction, throwing rocks through windows, breaking windows with bats, and violence to shut down his speech at Berkeley. That should disturb a legitimate liberal.

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Caitlyn Jenner was always supported on her sex-change by the left

We know. We just watched the left claim to be feminists and then give the "Woman of the Year" award to a person born as a man. This is insanity.

and opposed by the right

I don't remember any right wing opposition of Jenner. I most certainly didn't. Can you provide a source?

Surak(15) Disputed
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Ironic considering Milo is a homophobe.

I don't hate him, but he promotes a book that commands the murder of gay men. Promoting the murder of gay men(even if indirectly, and from a gay man) is homophobic.

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1)Promoting the Quran or anyone who advocates it is homophobic. Your logic.

2)So provide us a source on Milo and the book.

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"Ironic considering Milo is a homophobe

This seems impossible seeing that he has a boyfriend and is gay...

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When I was a kid and a young man I was a homophobe but then I grew up and eventually I voted for gay marriage here in WA state (passed) but I'm uncomfortable when I see two guys kissing. (which I rarely do) Not sure if that makes me a homophobe or not but it is what it is. By the way I would never be in favor of any legislation that took away any rights from anyone based on sexuality or ethnicity or religion. Well, maybe Mormons. Kidding.

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Tell the truth, are you homophobic?

Hello GL:

I'm NOT black, but I support civil rights. I don't have to BE black or even LIKE black people in order to BELIEVE in FREEDOM..

I'm NOT a homosexual, but I support gay marriage.. I don't have to BE gay or even LIKE gay people in order to believe in FREEDOM..

I'm a flawed human being, but I don't let my flaws influence my BELIEF in FREEDOM..

excon

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Nope. I'm not homophobic in the slightest. In fact one of my lifelong gay friends did a reading for us when I married my wife.

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No. gaychristian101.com forms the basis for me being a Christian and supporting marriage equality....................................................................................................

Surak(15) Disputed
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Promoting Christianity is inherently homophobic.

If you promote the Bible as the truth, and/or suggest following it's rules, you also promote the passage that says to slaughter gay men(Leviticus 20:13).

And if you have a counter-argument don't make me go to another website to get it, because that makes it difficult to create my rebuttal(assuming it is an invalid counter-argument).

Amarel(5669) Disputed
1 point

Would you say that Christians aren’t really Christian if they have a tattoo, wear different types of cloth, or eat lobster?

Sitar(3680) Disputed
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No it isn't. Read the site if you don't believe me................................................................................

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No.

And I detest your implication that someone is homophobic until proven otherwise.

The rule is supposed to be "Innocent until proven guilty".

1 point

Where do I imply this?

Surak(15) Disputed
1 point

"Tell the truth, are you homophobic?"

Specifically "Tell the truth". This implies it is likely someone would lie about their homophobia, and if that were the case, you would need them to provide evidence for their support of gays, because simply having their word would mean nothing.

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Ironically I went through a super-christian phase when I was young. And I was actually a homophobe(in my defense, homophobia would be rational if the Bible were true).

Now, I'm the opposite of that: A bisexual anti-theist.

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"Homo" means "same" or "alike" in Greek.

"phobia" according to Merriam-Webster means "an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation".

So if you have an irrational fear of the same, what does your homophobia say about you?

That you fear yourself and need help.