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Tens of thousands of Americans funded terrorism.
For decades Americans, through an organization called Noraid funded the I.R.A, who killed and maimed many 1000s of innocent civilians and members of the security forces. The American funded I.R.A, bombed factories causing mass unemployment, murdered the directors of both international and local businesses, destroyed public transport, planted roadside bombs and shot members of the security in the back. The upshot was/is that this terrorist organization, similar to I.S., made the lives of ordinary Irish people an absolute misery. Yet when America suffers atrocities from I.S, and is under constant threat from Islamic terrorist filth the Yanks, quite rightly condemn the psychopathic murdering criminals. Even senior American political figures such as the kennedys and Tip O'Neil lent their support for this vile I.R.A. organization. Surely there is no difference between Islamic terrorist filth and Irish terrorist filth, or do Americans decide which terrorist groups should be deemed acceptable?
I think it's safe to safe that planting improvised explosive devices with the intent of killing and harming innocent people for the purposes of influencing political decisions justifies being called terrorism.
Well yes I agree with that. I was more focused on if an American would see their own country's actions as acts of terror and since that person may ne a tax payer they indirectly helped fund it.
I am standing up for my country. If someone wants to talk shit about my country, they will hear from me. Not Americans support terrorism, but it's okay if you are looking for an argument.
It is a fact that quite a few Americans, predominantly of Irish heritage, sent money and aid to the IRA. Even figures as powerful as Representative Peter King supported them, and he is in Congress. That is not "talking shit" about the U.S., that is stating objective facts. Drawing a comparison between the "Freedom Fighters" of the IRA and the "Islamic Terrorists" of the IS is not unreasonable within the context used here.
One should not blindly "stand up" for their country if they aren't aware of what members of their country actually did.
Why don't you participate in the conversation instead of spouting platitudes? You have yelled at people in the past who go off topic, yet you haven't commented on this topic once.
You have not commented on the debate topic you are posting on, and you insulted those who have. You have yelled at people and banned people for both of those.
Now let's try a direct method: Do you believe there is a legitimate comparison between the IRA and the IS?
You denied that any Americans supported terrorism, which I addressed as being objectively false. Have you read the content of the debate? The actual description? Or did you just read the title and only the title?
Not Americans support terrorism, but it's okay if you are looking for an argument.
Additionally, when someone says "Some Americans supported terrorism", saying "others didn't really serves no purpose. The topic you are responding to is about those that did.
Does that make you a terrorist? Think about it, if you down vote someone who says that killing innocents in the name of politics is terrorism (Which it is) is saying that killing innocents in the name of politics is not terrorism and that means you support the killing of innocents!!! (If you haven't caught on by now, that makes you a terrorist for supporting terrorism)
No I'm not. That is slander. If I downvoted anyone, it was byt accident, and I don't even remember it. I do not give a flying fuck about downvotes, and you are just trolling and talking shit.
He isn't lying and it isn't slander. I posted a comment explaining that what the IRA did was terrorism. You down voted me, then later said it was because I was somehow "trolling".
This means that not only do you "give a fuck about down voting, but he isn't trolling nor is he talking shit, and it wasn't by accident.
I never said that I own my country. I am saying that I will stand up for my country. The truth is that America is a country by the people and for the people.
My is defined as belonging to or associated with the speaker. This means that if someone says "my country", they could be saying the country that belongs to them, or obviously far more likely, the country they are a part of.
For someone who complains about linguistic arguments, you sure try to start plenty of them.
We both know "language" hasn't agreed with you in the past, nor does it agree with you now. If you are going to get so angry when people point out what words mean (as you have in the past), then stop making linguistic arguments.
No it isn;t. That is a strawman. I never said that I own America. You are just a virgin boy troll looking for trouble. I was just stating who America is to mne, not claiming ownership.
Hellno began years ago a method of trolling me where he would literally post on any debate some variation of calling me a virgin for life. Soon after this, others caught onto it. Cuaroc was one of the first to mimic it. The only old timers who didn't were Joe, Andy (obviously) and Dana (who now goes by LibProfiler). The other old timers who didn't were either an alt of someone who went by the alias Lizzy, then Abby then a variety of others and Dan and also another troll called MicMacMoc (equally known as Chaffy and/or Ryan) who would use other methods of getting at me.
Dana admitted openly to being a 31-32 year old virgin 2-3 years ago and since i've been on and off the site since then i may not have caught her having gotten laid but for her to resort to copying Helno in calling me a virgin for life was a bit stupid so I merely requested she not stoop to that level and then you told em to come up with an original insult.
From you to Hellno: "Sad part is the only virgin between us is you. :)"
Clearly not anywhere near as pervasive as what others have used to you, but you have participated. I wasn't referencing you talking about Dana when I said that.
So yes, I read the full message, I just also recalled a previous message of yours.
And since when was being a Virgin an insult? I am proud that I still have my virginity (even though I'm 13, and having sex at this age would land me in the slammer.).
It's the classic "Freedom Fighter" paradigm, mixed in with a healthy dose of xenophobia. With the IRA, many Americans saw a bunch of "brave, strapping Anglo men" fighting for their ancestral home. They held a general belief system steeped in Western culture and held religious beliefs similar to most Americans. That caused many Americans to ignore a shocking amount of barbarity and wanton violence. With the I.S., we have the cultural and religious barriers that cause many to see them as the epitome of "the Other". They might be fighting for what they believe to be their home (a bit more laughable in this situation), but they are of a religious group we have demonized for a long period of time (just about the entire length of our country's existence, and for practically the religion's entire existence as far as Europe is concerned) and an ethnic group that we have grown to associate with religious violence and generally backwards traditions. Without shared ethnicity, religion or culture, we have few shared traditions that would cause people to empathize with them, as opposed to the IRA.
I wouldn't insult your intelligence by trying to patronize you but that was an excellent post. The misguided perception some Americans had of the I'R.A, would have been that of a bunch of brave strapping ''Gaelic men''..... The Anglo's were the ''planted'' English( of whom I'm one) and Scots and the bulk of the security forces. The I.R.A, were trying to achieve their political goals through bloody and barbaric violence, just in the same way as the I.S.
The misguided perception some Americans had of the I'R.A, would have been that of a bunch of brave strapping ''Gaelic men''..... The Anglo's were the ''planted'' English
I can't believe I made that mistake, considering my family is Irish as well. Did not think that one through.