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Uhhh, NO they don't Yes, just listen to 'em
Debate Score:40
Arguments:31
Total Votes:61
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The Constitution IS a liberal document. Do right wingers LIKE it?


Uhhh, NO they don't

Side Score: 14
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Yes, just listen to 'em

Side Score: 26
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Hello:

The software again, thinks this description is more than 5000 words, so I'm posting it here.

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So, I'm thinking right wingers don't believe in dissent - Kaepernick

Right wingers don't believe in the freedom to assemble - women wearing pussy hats

Right wingers don't believe in freedom of the press - enemy of the people

Right wingers don't believe in free speech - painting of Trumps severed head

Right wingers don't believe in the right to vote - gerrymandering and voter suppression

Right wingers don't believe in Due Process - torture

Clearly, ALL these issues are bedrock Constitutional values that the right wing HATES.

excon

Side: Uhhh, NO they don't
Bronto(2002) Disputed
2 points

Right wingers don't believe in the freedom to assemble - women wearing pussy hats

2 things are true at once.

Thing 1

Thinking something is stupid and innapropriate.

Thing 2

Doing nothing to stop it and not trying to get it stopped because you believe even misguided looney tunes have the right to dress pornographically in mobs.

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Some how the CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR must have missed the 2nd Amendment !

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Right wingers don't believe in the freedom to assemble - women wearing pussy hat

CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR pussy hats are located where in the Constitution of the United States ???????????????????????

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

You CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR what might you know about Article 6 ??????????

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Right wingers don't believe in the right to vote - gerrymandering and voter suppression

What a DUMB ASS you are !!!!!!!!!! Who has been complaining since your Sick Candidate went down in flames ??????????? SUPER STUPID do you really have a BRAIN?

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

So, I'm thinking right wingers don't believe in dissent - Kaepernick

You FUCKING IDIOT you do not have the ability to THINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
Bronto(2002) Disputed
0 points

Right wingers don't believe in free speech - painting of Trumps severed head

If not for the right, free speech would have died.

The left literally blocks conservative speakers on campus and on social media...

Right wingers don't believe in Due Process

The left literally tossed Kavanaugh's due process in the trash and didn't flinch.

Right wingers all over the media literally said Avenatti was owed...due process...

So, I'm thinking right wingers don't believe in dissent

We don't like dissent. We also fight to protect his right to do it.

Right wingers don't believe in freedom of the press - enemy of the people

Obama literally used our intelligence bereaus to target reporters...

Right wingers don't believe in the right to vote - gerrymandering and voter suppression

Liberals gerrymander. There's literally no way to keep a voter from voting without physical force.

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
Dreadnought(6) Disputed
2 points

If not for the right, free speech would have died.

False. The right hated the presence of free speech in 1930s Germany and it still hates the presence of free speech in 2018 America. When right wingers talk about free speech, they mean only for the people who do not call them out on their fallacies and deliberate misrepresentations of facts. If you yourself were truly in favour of free speech, then you would not need 400 alt accounts with which to bully and harass other users who disagree with your falsehoods. Nor would you need to systematically downvote their posts, or indeed upvote your own.

When right wingers talk about free speech what they are actually doing is defending what they see as their right to lie and deceive other people.

The left literally blocks conservative speakers on campus and on social media...

False. Private companies are permitted to allow or disallow anybody they like from using their platforms. The fact that some of these companies have banned neo-Nazis and white supremacists from their platforms because the hate speech they promote is illegal does not translate to "the left" blocking free speech. That is a total misrepresentation of the facts.

The left literally tossed Kavanaugh's due process in the trash and didn't flinch.

This is your go-to response when anybody criticises the right wing. You attack the left wing. Your response is logically incoherent to the point which was made.

We don't like dissent. We also fight to protect his right to do it.

False. You abhor dissent, and you have been trying to convince us for the last two years that the Occupy Wall Street protesters are treasonous enemies of the state.

Obama

See above. The statement was that right wingers do not believe in freedom of the press. You again avoided confronting this criticism by attacking the left. This is a logically incoherent response.

Everything you write is false, deceitful and stupid.

Side: Uhhh, NO they don't
1 point

False-

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

http://www.ushistory.org/USHistory.org › declaration › document"

The Declaration of Independence: Full text - USHistory.org

2nd Amendment-

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
1 point

I'm a liberal and I like the US Consitution. Being a liberal, I'm conservative on some issues and progressive on others.

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em

I repeat, the founding fathers were classical liberals. At the time they were considered "progressive" because they were trying to remove a layer of class stratification from society. Ultimately however, they were right wing and those adhering to their values and ideas in today's society are called conservatives. Do you honestly dispute that the founders were right wing? You are supporting a right wing document.

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

So what is the 2nd Amendment about can you tell us ??????????

Side: Uhhh, NO they don't
Bronto(2002) Disputed
1 point

the founding fathers were classical liberals.

They invoked God like it was going out of style.

At the time they were considered "progressive"

Citation needed.

because they were trying to remove a layer of class stratification from society.

They literally had slaves.

Ultimately however, they were right wing and those adhering to their values and ideas in today's society are called conservatives. Do you honestly dispute that the founders were right wing? You are supporting a right wing document.

A sane statement.

Side: Uhhh, NO they don't
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They invoked God like it was going out of style.

Irrelevant.

Citation needed.

The reason why I say they were considered progressives is because they were closer to the left than feudalism is. Classical liberals were the progressive side, even though they are conservatives in a modern context, and the monarchists were the conservatives trying to CONSERVE the old establishment.

They literally had slaves.

Yes, and they wanted to remove royalty and nobility from their society.

A sane statement.

That coming from you makes me question my own sanity.

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em

You are supporting a right wing document written by slave owning capitalist conservatives.

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Nathan Bedford Forrest, called Bedford Forrest in his lifetime, was a cotton farmer, slave owner, slave trader, Confederate Army general during the American Civil War, first leader of the Ku Klux Klan and president of the Selma, Marion, & Memphis Railroad

Dummy are you aware of any history ????????????????

Side: Uhhh, NO they don't
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Dummy who owned slaves ?????????? Get a history book you uninformed fool !!!!!!!

Side: Uhhh, NO they don't
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The Constitution IS a liberal document. Do right wingers LIKE it?

Yeah. That's why the left is always atracking it and has started to call it a "living document".

Side: Yes, just listen to 'em