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The Obama Administration is Racist

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3 points

The last several years have seen a great deal of debate over Obama - his ethnicity, place of birth, religion, even his name - however, the second somebody screams "racist", everybody seems to stop.

However, is it even remotely possible, that Obama is the racist?

Obama's minister, the ultra-prejudiced Jeremiah Wright has made his beliefs regarding Black Power all-to-clear. Reverend Wright's mentor, James Cone, also made what one could call "violently racist" speeches and writings, such as that listed in the following excerpt:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Obama himself, in his book 'Dreams from my Father', wrote:

“I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.”

Skip ahead to the "Henry Louis Gates arrest controversy", regarding which Obama stated that the Cambridge Police "acted stupidly" in arresting the black Prof. Gates. Sgt. Crowley, the arresting officer, who also teaches a couse on racial profiling, maintained that he "acted appropriately."

A neighbor had called the police upon seeing two men apparently attempting to break into Prof. Gates' house. In the police report, Sgt. Crowley wrote that Gates, who had only then managed to force open the door, responded with "Why, because I'm a black man in America?" when asked for identification.

So, where is Obama's racism in all of that? The part where Obama announced that the Cambridge police [officer] "acted stupidly". What is so racist about that? Obama immediately assumed that, without even having any proof or complete knowledge of the situation, the white officer acted "stupidly" in arresting black Gates.

It may now be time to define "racism". There are many who would have you believe that only a white person can be racist (!!!), however, lexicographically, that is a blatant lie. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is defined as "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race , especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races"

Now, onto another case:

The New Black Panthers, a black-supremicist organization, have announced that black peope will have to kill "crackers and their babies" to gain liberation. Samir Shabazz, the very man who made those hate speeches, was arrested for voter intimidation by carrying a billy club and threatening white people as they attempted to vote. However, immediately before the resolution of the trial, the case was dropped.

Now Julie Fernandes, the Assisstent Attorney General Deputy, has stated that whites may "never bring a lawsuit against a black"!

Thus, I maintain my thesis that Obama, and his administration, are racists.

| Side: True
2 points

So, if the mentor to you minister is racist, you are a racist?

“I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.”

I have the pdf of this book and this quote is not in the book

(others have found the same

http://truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-books.htm)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp )

Obama did not say that the police acted racially or that all white cops do stupid things or anything racist. He said that the "Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home"

The New Black Panthers

- The Bush administration's Justice Department -- not the Obama administration -- made the decision not to pursue criminal charges. It then became a civil case and Obama/Holder DOJ obtained an injunction against Samir Shabazz through the 2012 election.

- The Bush administration chose not to pursue similar charges

- No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/07/026796.php?format=print

http://mediamatters.org/research/201007070020

just more ginned up Faux news

| Side: False
TERMINATOR(6718) Disputed
1 point

So, if the mentor to you minister is racist, you are a racist?

He admits to being racist.

I have the pdf of this book and this quote is not in the book

So you claim.

"Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home"

Sgt. Crowley could not ascertain Prof. Gates' identity. The nigger refused to cooperate!

- The Bush administration's Justice Department -- not the Obama administration

No, the Bush administration pursued charges, whereas the Obama administration dropped charges.

It then became a civil case and Obama/Holder DOJ obtained an injunction against Samir Shabazz through the 2012 election.

So only one person got an injunction. His "injunction" is extremely minor for his offense.

- No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated

That's a laugh.

Where do you think they got the video?

just more ginned up Faux news

Yup, every source you gave.

| Side: True
1 point

Oh Dear God Yes. I mean look at this how many Black supremacy groups do blacks have. NAACP,Black Panthers. None of which have ever been targeted as any White supremacy group. A white man or men question the GREAT ONE he himself goes out

of his way to slander and destroy him. Obama is a one trick pony. OK he is black khaki or something besides white that got him there how big of idiots are we gonna be to re elect him

| Side: True
0 points

if you already know of the fake "ethnicity, place of birth, religion, even his name" nontraversies - why didn't you approach this (and future) stories with at least some degree of skepticism?

| Side: False
iamdavidh(4850) Disputed Banned
0 points

1. There has been no debate on any of these things. It's racist and predictable reactionism stemming from a PR campaign based on nothing but the color of Obama's skin. Do you not ask yourself why the first black president is also the first president to be accused of all these things? It is because he is black. It is racists projecting their own racism. Nothing more.

2. James Cone has 0 to do with Obama. And it is well documented Obama did not go to this church often, and never saw any of Wright's hate speaches. It is not as if he were covering this subject every sunday and Obama has been clear about his opposition to the speach in question.

3. An honest analyses of racial relations at a young age is far more likely to produce one free of the disease, which Obama is, than one who denies it, like the jokers of Fox and yourself, who are quite racially divisive.

4. The cop did act stupidly. It is stupid for a cop to arrest someone for tresspassing on their own property after seeing proof they are on their own property. That cop acted stupidly.

5. Your explanation of who can be racist has nothing to do with anything. Of course anyone can be racist. The point is Obama has done nothing that would lead anyone with an ounce of logic to believe he is.

5. The "new black panthers" were two, count them, two crazy people. And that silly tape showed white people walking back and forth with no trouble whatsoever. Plus, the Bush admin decided not to prosecute first, then a right wing attorney general tried to get the case tried again by the Obama admin. It was blatant race bating. Why aren't you accusing the Bush admin of being racist?

6. You're an idiot.

| Side: False
TERMINATOR(6718) Disputed
0 points

6. You're an idiot.

I gave dozens of sources, you gave none, and I am the idiot? That's fucking liberalism at its most infuriating!

By the way, I've made it clear before that insults are a banworthy offense on my debates.

See yeah.

| Side: True
aveskde(1901) Disputed
0 points

So, where is Obama's racism in all of that? The part where Obama announced that the Cambridge police [officer] "acted stupidly". What is so racist about that? Obama immediately assumed that, without even having any proof or complete knowledge of the situation, the white officer acted "stupidly" in arresting black Gates.

I must be racist then, because I hate stupid people...

The New Black Panthers, a black-supremicist organization, have announced that black peope will have to kill "crackers and their babies" to gain liberation. Samir Shabazz, the very man who made those hate speeches, was arrested for voter intimidation by carrying a billy club and threatening white people as they attempted to vote. However, immediately before the resolution of the trial, the case was dropped.

Ah... so Obama was caught making phone calls to get his black brother's case dropped... right?

| Side: False
-1 points

Simply Genius... Obama is racist. He even mentions it in his book.

| Side: True
1 point

actually, no, he doesn't.

"No such sentence (nor anything close to it) appears anywhere in either Dreams from My Father or The Audacity of Hope. This statement was taken from a March 2007 article about Barack Obama"

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

http://truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-books.htm

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ statements/2008/jun/10/chain-email/obama-didnt-write-that/

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080513141028AArWA5M

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/obamas-dreams-of-my-father/

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/09/02/99859/commentary-the-lengths-some-go.html

Obama must be doing pretty well for people to resort to making stuff up to not like about him...

| Side: False
1 point

it probably is racist, against black people. i havent noticed any change in civil rights in america since obama took office. one country that i can think of that has actually changed something racially is south africa with the bee. they call it black economic empowerment. i also see the obama administration continuing to target muslims, and hispanics. it's business as usual, but what do you expect. this is america.

| Side: True

The most diverse Cabinet in history

"Obama's Cabinet appointments beat Bush's initial Cabinet appointments hands down in terms of racial/ethnic/gender diversity on nearly all counts, with women and Asians faring the best"

| Side: False
TERMINATOR(6718) Disputed
1 point

"Obama's Cabinet appointments beat Bush's initial Cabinet appointments hands down in terms of racial/ethnic/gender diversity on nearly all counts, with women and Asians faring the best"

Which only makes me loathe Obama all the more!

Why were they appointed? Because of their diversity, or because they were the best peoples for the job?

Praising somebody for being diverse is discriminatory.

| Side: True
2 points

- that Obama administration is so racist, I hate that guy...

- actually it's the most diverse in history

- that Obama administration is putting diversity over ability, I hate that guy even more...

the consistent thread here is your unfounded hatred of Obama no matter what the facts are

| Side: False
1 point

Do you now loathe Romney since instead of chosing from qualified candidates who were male - he actively sought out (binders full of) women to fill the position instead?

| Side: False
2 points

I could have sworn I heard something about you leaving. None the less, I suppose you're still antagonizing Qymosabi. That is certainly a goal I can support.

Still though, I'd like to know why one would think that the current administration is racist. Enlighten me.

| Side: False
TERMINATOR(6718) Disputed
1 point

I could have sworn I heard something about you leaving.

News gets around fast.

Soon; I plan for Sept. 1; however, I intend to return once or twice a week.

None the less, I suppose you're still antagonizing Qymosabi.

I wasn't even thinking about him.

That is certainly a goal I can support.

A fellow white supremacist, then?

Still though, I'd like to know why one would think that the current administration is racist. Enlighten me.

My argument - long and riddled with sources - is forthcoming. I've spent the last hour googling for additional sources.

| Side: True
Mahollinder(897) Disputed
3 points

My argument - long and riddled with sources - is forthcoming. I've spent the last hour googling for additional sources.

Only one of the issues you've brought up in your post has anything to actually do with Obama. And it's a paltry attempt at making his accusation of a police officer acting stupidly a racist accusation.

| Side: False
1 point

I wasn't even thinking about him.

You are eternally vexing.

My argument - long and riddled with sources - is forthcoming. I've spent the last hour googling for additional sources.

I'm giddy just thinking about it.

Edit:

A fellow white supremacist, then?

Aw shucks. You caught me.

| Side: True

His 2 life-time Supreme court appointments: a Hispanic woman and a white/Jewish woman

sounds like a radical racist muslim to me...

| Side: False
TERMINATOR(6718) Disputed
1 point

Why women?

Why not an Aryan woman?

I never said he was Muslim.

| Side: True
iamdavidh(4850) Disputed Banned
1 point

Why not a gerbal? He must be racist against gerbals then huh? You have no proof of him being racist. Even psycho Glenn Beck at to change his mind when faced with facts whether Obama is racist. I believe one of two things are going on, you want to excuse your racism by saying basically "he did it first" or you are a synical asshole.

Either way, really, no one wants you on CD so hurry up and leave.

| Side: False
MegaDittos(568) Disputed
0 points

Those on the other side appoint blacks and Indians to position but are still called racists. Does two appointments prove otherwise. Robert Byrd was in the Klan and because he was a democrat, he couldn't be racists. Seems the only racists are republicans.

| Side: True
1 point

Those on the other side appoint blacks and Indians to position but are still called racists - you are tilting at windmills that are not here; I don't see any arguments in this debate about Republican racists.

actually, if you click on the article I quoted, it mentions that before Obama, the most diverse Cabinet was that of George W. Bush

Of course Byrd was a racist, that doesn't mean he stayed that way:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/ 0228-07.htm

Maybe a little history is in order as well:

The initial Republican Party was opposed to the expansion of slavery (it was still racist, just a lot less racist than the Democrats). After the civil war and reconstruction, the parties began to undergo a shift in terms of race politics. After the FDR/Truman presidencies weren't racist enough, the Dixiecrats split off into their own political party in 1948 under Strom Thurmond - and both the Republican and Democratic party platforms denounced racism. For a while, both parties had fairly good record on race (at least at the top level). In 1968, during the Civil Rights movement, the white southern racists split off and voted for Alabama governor George Wallace who ran on a platform of segregation. That election combined with Nixon and Reagan's southern strategy / state right's rhetoric has solidified most remaining white southern racists into the Republican party. This is not to say that all racists are Republicans nor that all Republicans are racists.

If you believe Obama is a racist, I would be interested to know why.

| Side: False

How can the man be racist? He is equally white and black.

He would be in complete denial of his own self if he were to have racist thoughts against white people or against black people.

He would hate himself and hide the fact that he is white as well as black.

| Side: False
2 points

There is no good factual basis to make this assertion. The people who think he is seam to have a bad case of confirmation bias.

| Side: False
1 point

Really? You serious? Are you people like 4 years old?

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

| Side: False
Warlin(1212) Disputed
1 point

Really? You serious? Are you people like 4 years old?

Yes, I believe he is serious. I don't know if he's four years old though. Although, that might explain why he's so confusing.

| Side: True

. Although, that might explain why he's so confusing.

I am so confusing because I am not accustomed to typing out debates, as opposed to speaking them.

I'm typically much better - even to the point of changing religious peoples' convictions and liberals to conservatives - when I speak.

| Side: True
1 point

He is not a racist, he is a narcissist. I wish he would worry less about his legacy and more about our suffering.

| Side: False


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