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Debate Score:18
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The Pope on Climate Change

Do you believe that the Pope should be taking an official position for the church in support of efforts to effect climate change or do you believe that such a politically charged issue should be left to politicians?

He should speak

Side Score: 11
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He should avoid this topic

Side Score: 7

I may not currently be catholic but I was certainly raised catholic and keep in touch with my catholic family, and I share their strong feelings about this: If god created Earth for humanity, then it is our responsibility to take care of it. In that sense, it should be every Christians responsibility (and particularly the Pope's) to call for strong action in favor of environmental protections, as a means of fulfilling the responsibility to take care of the gift that was given.

Side: He should speak
daver(1771) Clarified
1 point

Does it concern you that GW is not supported by many Catholics, who now have to cooperate with another ruling of the church that they don't agree with.

Side: He should speak
GenericName(3430) Clarified
2 points

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/06/16/catholics-divided-over-global-warming/

Actually, many Catholics believe in GW. Regardless, the Church isn't supposed to base their stances according to public opinion, or so they like to claim when it comes to birth control or same-sex marriage, so why should it base it on public opinion for climate change? And even if around half of Catholics don't believe in man-made climate change, I hardly see how they (those that don't believe in man-made climate change, I mean) can justify not fighting for increased environmental protections in order to be proper, responsible stewards of the gift they were given. Climate Change is hardly the only justification for environmental protections, after all, and I don't think anyone can deny that humanity has damaged the environment in many, many ways.

Side: He should speak
1 point

The notion that the Pope is not a politician is a frankly naive assessment. The Pope is the head of the Papal State and the Vatican is a recognized city-state with its own independent economy, politics, and government. Asking if the Pope should weigh in on climate change is like asking if any head of state should do so, and to answer in negation is confounding at best.

That said I would personally prefer the Pope and the Vatican stay out of all affairs as much as possible, though it is hardly in their interest to do so (which is partially why I wish they would, I suppose).

Side: He should speak
daver(1771) Disputed
1 point

Noting that the Pope is simply another politician is ignoring his impact on 1.2 billion people. He speaks for God, in the minds of many followers. This sets him apart from those who simply govern.

don't ya think

Side: He should avoid this topic
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

I never said that the Pope was "simply another politician". I identified the Pope as the head of the Papal State which has its seat in the Vatican. The power of the Pope and the Vatican derives from the religious influence of the Pope, rather as one might argue that the power of the U.S. derives from economics and/or the military. I was not ignoring that power, merely assuming it as a mechanism which permits the Pope to operate as a head of state with some authority on international affairs. The rest of my analysis stands.

Side: He should speak
1 point

if doing something about climate change is left to the politicians, we are all DOOMED.

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DOOMED i tell you.

Side: He should speak
1 point

The Catholic church is part of the political process. It has been so for over a thousand years. Maybe you are thinking of another church.

Side: He should speak
daver(1771) Clarified
1 point

I'm saying it should not be a player in world affairs that do not center around religion.

Side: He should speak
flewk(1193) Clarified
1 point

Again. The Catholic church is part of the political process (non-religious). It has been so for over a thousand years. Maybe you are thinking of another church.

Side: He should speak

Pope Francis entered a controversial area knowing that he would be criticized by some, nevertheless, he wants to demonstrate that he can enter the political realm and remain sectarian.

Side: He should speak
1 point

agenda 21..does not surprise me he supports it.control is all they want dont forget the money(even though its worthless paper)

Agenda 21 Global Warming SCAM ADVANCING!
Side: He should avoid this topic
1 point

My god, everything in the world is a conspiracy to you isn't it? Well, other than the Bible.

Side: He should speak
Stoner(69) Disputed
1 point

facts are not a conspiracy..force and control is the factor not facts!

research HARRP dont blame it on the people for what the government is doing!its a old tactic

New Global Warming Propaganda
Side: He should avoid this topic
Stoner(69) Disputed
1 point

hemp is the solution but its illegal(imagine that)..hemp takes in 4 times the co2 then trees

Supporting Evidence: Diocletian's Problem-Reaction-Solution (propagandamatrix.com)
Side: He should avoid this topic
1 point

Well, only if he can present a way by which this most vital goal can be achieved. Until then he should reserve his pompous outbursts for when he's entertaining his pious guests at the numerous night's of ''fine dining at the Vatican''. Any fool can make such statements, but it's our scientists, ( and not the locked away from reality, ''holy men and women of god), who are working desperately to find a carbon free form of energy.

Side: He should avoid this topic
Stoner(69) Clarified
1 point

Hemp seed oil can be used in place of petroleum in virtually all products. Bio diesel can be made from hemp. Using hemp seed oil as bio diesel would be the best choice for many reasons. Corn and other food sources would increase the cost of corn as food for people and animals.Hempseed oil can do anything petroleum can do, but cleaner. Hemp seed oil can be made into plastic, foam for cushion or insulation, resins and varnish products, bio diesel, fuel for bbq’s lanterns, oil stoves, etc…Hemp actually revitalizes the soil it grows in, both by aerating the soil and through the deposit of carbon dioxide in to it. This makes hemp ideal for crop rotation, and the crop that follows in the soil hemp grew in will develop better than if hemp had not been used.

• Hemp does not require herbicides or pesticides.

• Hemp can be grown in a wide range of latitudes and altitudes.

• Hemp replenishes soil with nutrients and nitrogen, making it an excellent rotational crop.

• Hemp controls erosion of the topsoil.

• Hemp converts CO2 to oxygen better than trees.

• Hemp produces more oil than any other crop, which can be used for food, fuel, lubricants, soaps, etc.

• Hemp nut is a very healthy food, being the highest protein crop (after soybean,hemp is not GMO) and high in omega oils.

• Hemp can be used for making plastics, including car parts.

• Hemp makes paper more efficiently and ecologically than wood, requiring no chemical glues.

• Hemp can be used to make fiberboard.

• Hemp can be used to make paint.

• Hemp can produce bio-fuel and ethanol (better than corn).

• Hemp can be grown more than once per year.

• Hemp fibers can make very strong rope and textiles.

Side: He should speak
Stoner(69) Clarified
1 point

1 Acre of hemp can create 500 GALLONS of bio-diesel fuel.

6% of U.S. Acreage comes out to about 142,797,888 acres. 500 gallons per acre equals 71,398,944,000 gallons. This amount can be produced 3 times a year, making the number of total gallons per year, just on 6% of U.S. soil 214,196,832,000. This is the maximum amount that can be created with optimum conditions, per year. Americans use 137,801,370,000 gallons of petroleum based fuels per year. Replace oil now!

Side: He should speak