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The Pope says it's better to be an atheist than a bad Catholic

In informal comments he said it's better to be an atheist than to be a Catholic in name only who otherwise is exploiting people.  What do you think? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-atheists-idUSKBN1621I3

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What an idiot

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I would agree. Not that Atheism is a bad thing but it would be better to not believe in God then to believe in Him and His teachings and still be a total asshole. (sorry for the language). With the latter, especially when people cherry pick what they want to believe to justify improper actions, it's basically like spitting in the face of God.

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I remember when I was a teen and still a believer, one of my favorite Christian bands was DC Talk. I remember in the opening to one of their songs one of them quoted Brennan Manning, β€œThe greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians: who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, walk out the door, and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.” I don't agree it's a cause of atheism, but it certainly is interesting. If you believe what the Bible teaches is actually true, how could live a life contrary to it?

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Mint_tea(4063) Clarified
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I suppose that depends of one believe in God solely because of the bible.

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I'd take it a step further. It's better to be an atheist than to be any kind of so-called Christian who acts like an arse to people. Specifically thinking of the Evangelicals who argue they can say and do just about anything to people so long as they have accepted key verses in the Bible as their total reality.

At least with atheists there's usually an awareness their behavior falls within a society. Living within society's rules is better than believing all of society can kiss your arse unless everyone accepted the same key verses of the Bible as their total reality too.

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Very eloquently put, Grenache! Couldn't have said it better!

I like this Pope ... never thought I'd say that. He is a far better person than the few "Christian(?) Arses" that bless us with their enduring love ;-) here on CD.

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I'd take it a step further. It's better to be an atheist than to be at least any kind of so-called religious person who acts like an arse to people.

Side: Sounds right
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Now Progressive are you going to have such harsh words for the Muslims you Progressives adore ?

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Grenache(6103) Clarified
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My comment can apply to any religious person who says or does terrible things.

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This is exactly what i was saying, that....an atheist is better than a blasphemious believer....

Wow for the first time the pope and i are saying something almost the same.

Difference~ i was saying christian and he was saying catholic

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This is exactly what i was saying, that....an atheist is better than a blasphemious believer....

Wow for the first time the pope and i are saying something almost the same.

Difference~ i was saying christian and he was saying catholic

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Well... I've heard what some bad Catholics do...

Plus it's common sense. The Pope wouldn't want a pedo or drug dealer ruining the opinion of his religion.

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t-roy(362) Disputed
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Well have you heard of a jew yeah not so smart now. I await your banned sources?

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DevinSeay(1120) Disputed
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English. Do you speak it ?

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Regardless of the irony of his stating that, it is, according to the Bible, accurate.

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Religion like this is outdated anyways. Atheism is the basic response to this religious superstition that continues today.

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It's true.

First, Catholicism teaches universal salvation, that nobody remains in Hell forever. Poke Prances recently stated this and he's supposedly infallible.... so if they are atheist and they go to Hell and get out eventually without anybody paying for their Hey Mary prayers....so it's better than being a bad Catholic and causing trouble for the Poope. If they are bad Catholics, the Poke may make them stay in Purgatory for half of forever and their family will be forever buying candles to try to get them out of Purgatory so they can go to Heaven. That's how Catholicism enslaves people, telling them they can never be good enough to enter Heaven (which is true) and then coercing them to try to buy favor with God by serving the Poope. Believing the Bible will set a person free when they are reconciled to God and know their sins are forgiven and they are going to Heaven so they don't need any help from the Poope, don't need the Poope's approval or permission.

The Catholic church used Darwin after schooling him under Jesuits to push belief in evolution as a means to turn people into atheists or to at least undermine their belief in the Bible as authoritative. The Poop..actually the shadow government of the Vatican....claims to be above the Bible in Authority, and they would much rather people be atheists than to believe the Bible. Believing God's word sets a person free so they will not bow to the Poop. Believing in evolution leads to atheism which enables fascist dictators (like the Poop) to rise to power killing millions when they convince people their fellow man must be sacrificed for the evolutionary advancement of the fittest who will survive.

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Poke Prances

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That coming from the person who is always the first to cry when someone writes God with a g.

Great.

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Poke Prances πŸ˜‚ Stain is well and truly a ' lost soul ' ...............

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NowASaint(1388) Disputed
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The Poop is not God, The Poop is devilish like you are .

Side: Sounds right
NowASaint(1388) Clarified
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remember, you follow me, I don't follow you.................thank you.

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As successive Popes have been guilty of being complicit in covering up child abuse en mass,( no pun intended) by the senior clergy of the Roman Catholic Church throughout the world anything a pope would say should be taken with a ''DOSE'' of salts.

Down the ages Popes have overseen such atrocities as the inquisition, the bombing of a defenseless Abyssinia and the persecution of Protestants.

The undeserved awe in which Roman Catholics hold this 'fallible' human being is diminishing.

The stupidity of this ill considered statement is self evident when you consider that it would be easier to direct a 'bad Roman Catholic' back onto the straight and narrow than convince a hard line atheist of the existence of a mythical God and to accept all the razz a matazz, such as incense burning, crosses, double crosses, hooks, mitres, holy water, idols, mass etc., as exercised by Roman Catholicism.

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This is exactly why I despise Catholicism.

Side: What an idiot
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Agree, I do not bow to a Roman dictator. I refuse to get on my knees and kiss the feet of another human.

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That sounds much like the story of Satan from Quran.

Side: Sounds right
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The last two Popes have been anti USA and pro socialism. They need to stick to what they do best, preach about God and Jesus and stay out of politics and economics.

Side: What an idiot
sylynn(626) Clarified
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To be fair, neither Pope is from the US, so really, who cares?

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I agree. Americans who are loyal to America will never listen to the Pope.

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