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It is Socialists love Capitalists
Debate Score:51
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The United States is essentially in an unspoken Civil War

Matthew 24:12

"Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold."

It is

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Socialists love Capitalists

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Trump's style is to tell the truth with straightforward brutality and without any P.C, sugar coating.

The loony left have kicked against having to listen to the stark reality of their failed policies and how their supporters are no more than parasites leeching on the economy and stifling innovative entrepreneurial enterprise.

They've all had a severe jolt back into the world of stark reality after years of being pampered and caressed with Obama's fanciful notions of an impossible, 'end of the rainbow' socialist utopia.

DEAR FOOLS, SUCH A PARADISE IS AN ILLUSION FED TO YOU BY DELUSIONISTS.

WAKE UP AND SMELL WHAT IT IS THEY'RE SHOVELLING.

On the international front the U.S, is at the top of the tree and this attracts bitter hostility from the 'snapping hyenas' of the world's resentful despots.

President Trump has confronted and stemmed the runaway expansionism of Russia and China and put such filth as Kim Jong-Un on notice that prodding a tiger can have 'undesirable' consequences and the days of 'free penalty kicks' at America are over.

Kick and you'll be kicked back to the power of 10.

Even though Trump's 'no nonsense, 'give the facts as they really are'' may have polarized certain sections of the community, they are nonetheless, ''THE FACTS'.

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excon(4275) Disputed
2 points

Hello A:

You refer to black people as bongos, don't you?? You talk about their big fat lips, don't you??? You DO!!! I've SEEN your words. Oh, I know - you pretended your racism was just a joke.. I dunno WHY.. The Nazis who went to Charlottsville yesterday weren't ashamed of their hatred.. Why are you???

So, a fact to a racist ISN'T a fact.. It's RACISM..

You really didn't expect me to stay quiet, did you??? Be advised.. I will NEVER, EVER stand silent in the face of hatred, and I KNOW who you are.

excon

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Antrim(999) Disputed
2 points

You're full of self pity and a lost soul wandering around looking for something or someone to accuse of fitting your perception of racism.

I hold most bongos in contempt for their inherent laziness, predisposition to violent crime and, in their natural state,( i.e, Bongoland) inability to organise themselves into cohesive societies with effective ''NON RACIST', government.

Expressing self evident truths doesn't make me a racist, it only illustrates me as a realist who is aware that a hierarchy exists in the real world in which the Bongo is ill equipped to compete successfully with the white man.

Trying to shoot the messenger is for underage romantic schoolgirls, a category into which you fit very well.

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Welcome to Trumps "Great America"! Riots, protests, marches, threats of war, insults to our allies, sabre rattling, sword dances with those who brought the Twin Towers down, polluted rivers, an overjoyed 1%, calls for help from "OUR GOVERNMENT" ... and the "help" comes in the form of white supremacists and the KKK! All hail President of VICE Bannon! HE is going to make America .... what he wants .......!

How can Trump supporters sleep at night!

Matthew was right, our love ... slim as it was, is growing cold ... for TRUMP!

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Negligentt(397) Disputed
2 points

Riots, protests, marches, threats of war

And almost all of these protests and marches are by the far left. This is Obama's America, and Conservatives have become its biggest victim.

Threats of war? Obama, Bush, and Hillary herself made them all the time. Apparently you can say what you want if you are black, a liberal disguised as an elephant or a woman.

Obama attacked nations unprovoked, started coups all the time, and tried to affect foreign elections. Trump is still yet to do it once. Amazingly, based on acts, Trump is yet to do anything Fascist or even resist his opposition with force. It's amazing how what you actually do is not how the left defines you. They define you based on your label, and if it isn't Democrat, they show you exactly what real Fascism looks like.

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Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

Threats of war? Obama, Bush, and Hillary herself made them all the time. Apparently you can say what you want if you are black, a liberal disguised as an elephant or a woman.

Hold on. George "blow up the world" Bush was a liberal?

LOL!

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AlofRI(1836) Clarified
1 point

You are negligent in your facts... not the alternative ones, the real ones.

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Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

sword dances with those who brought the Twin Towers down

That was the Israelis and I hear Trump is pretty pally pally with them.

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AlofRI(1836) Disputed
1 point

What was the Israelis? The sword dance? No that was the Saudis, the ones who brought the Towers down. And, yes. Trump "was pretty pally with them" ... offered our "friends" a real good deal on the F-35's they bought ... a country with more money (and terrorists), per capita than most others.

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Negligentt(397) Disputed
1 point

A bunch of Israelis conducted a suicide mission on planes hijacked by Muslims from Saudi Arabia. Uh huh. Try to make that one stick.

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I am not at all Trump's fan. We simply don't have the same political position. I don't know if he is racist or sexist or facist. Honestly, I don't have enough information to judge. I wasn't happy when he got elected but if there is anything Trump did is awake the hatred that has been strewing in our hearts for years. He didn't create it. He poked us in way that finally we are exteriorating it. It's about time we face these issues instead of lying to ourselves and the world that we welcome all people. We don't. Not anymore.

Trump showed us, liberals and conservative, to stop with the bullshit and say what you really think. I don't believe a president should do the same but I do believe that a population should. It is only by expressing yourself with other that problems and issues can be solved.

I say it's about time the punches let loose. Our country needs it.

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Negligentt(397) Disputed
1 point

it's about time we face these issues instead of lying to ourselves and the world that we welcome all people

Should we welcome people who are commanded by the Quran to kill all non-Muslims and wage jihad on the "unbelievers"? And what would be the logic in doing so? Are we obligated to welcome aliens from the Omega Pan galaxy, who are hovering their mother ship over Earth with the phasers pointed at us, or would it be best that we blew them out of the sky if able.

We, the West, haven't had any major problems with Asians, Hindus, South Africans, Etc and integrating them nicely into our nations. We've only had major problems with people from the Middle East and the religion of death and oppression. It's not our fault their religion demands war with us. It's theirs. The Quran and Prophet Muhammad screwed it up and made peace with them impossible, not us.

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Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

Should we welcome people who are commanded by the Quran to kill all non-Muslims

You don't seem to have a problem with people commanded by the Bible to kill all non-Christians.

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

How can anybody be expected to take militant Christians seriously when they are such burning hypocrites?

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Gypsee(256) Disputed
1 point

Nooo. Why would you let in a man who says he wants to kill you ?

And as for aliens, you don't know what their intentions are, so yeah welcome them.

But I see where you are getting at. What I mean is that Americans don't welcome Americans. We are a people of different backgrounds, religions, and cultures. We pretend to be open to the world but we aren't even tolerant towards each other. That is more of the point I wanted to make. I know that we have a problem with Muslims from the Middle East but the problem is deeper than that. We have problems with Muslims in general. They can be American and it doesn't matter. The US has serious internal issues that are reflected strongly in their actions internationally. We act internationally in the name of liberty and democracy but Because of the intolerance between us, it makes us look like hypocrites.

This has been a VERY long problem. We've just come to realize it. I really think that until our issues are solved we can't properly fight international issues. But I'm going off subject.

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Atrag(5188) Disputed
1 point

Should we welcome people who are commanded by the Quran to kill all non-Muslims and wage jihad on the "unbelievers"?

Firstly, Bronto, sign into your main account.

Secondly, Bronto, have you ever wondered why 99.99999% of Muslims are not terrorists? Could it be that there is something wrong in your interpretation or significance of a book you have never even read?

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1 point

So true. Liberals and conservatives are tearing at the fabric of our country..................................................................

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2 points

Hello bront:

UNSPOKEN????.. Well, let me rectify that.. Right wingers, alt right Nazi's, and white supremacists, are DESTROYING my beloved country. They need to be PUT DOWN..

The quicker we get to it, the better..

Am I CLEAR????

excon

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WinstonC(854) Disputed
2 points

The fact that you seem to view right wingers in general as comparable to "alt right Nazis and white supremacists" deeply saddens me. This is compounded by the statement "They need to be PUT DOWN." which appears to condone, if not incite, violence against ~50% of the voting public. I really thought you were a pleasant and reasonable person when I joined this site, please don't go down this road.

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excon(4275) Disputed
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Hello again, W:

I'm sad that you're sad. It's a saddening time.. Do I think it will rectify itself on its own? I do not. I don't think that makes me unreasonable OR unpleasant.

Of course, I have gone to war to defend my values before.. Nothing has changed..

excon

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Quantumhead(850) Disputed
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The fact that you seem to view right wingers in general as comparable to "alt right Nazis and white supremacists" deeply saddens me.

Given that the debate is about the right wing in the United States, not "right wingers in general" then the comparison is completely valid. The centre of the US political system has been pushed so far right that we are talking about the right wing OF the right wing.

Source: https://www.quora.com/Are-both-political-parties-in-America-right-wing-but-the-republicans-are-just- more-right-wing

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Negligentt(397) Disputed
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There are about 1,000 people in these groups nationwide. BLM and, ANTIFA, and the U.S. version of the Muslim Brotherhood on the other hand, have enough members to be of a real threat, and are a real threat. There are more ANTIFA and BLM members in Chicago alone than KKK members nationwide.

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Atrag(5188) Disputed
1 point

Bronto - there are a few thousand KKK members national wide.

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1 point

Oh please. The fighting and killing, as well as the organization of the two sides of the alleged civil war, would need to be ramped up 100 fold to reach a point where it could be called a civil war. Plus the "unspoken" part is bogus. There is a hell of a lot of speaking going on on sociopolitical issues. The only people who could come across as not speaking about it are the dinosaurs who never got on the internet.

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Negligentt(397) Disputed
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The real Civil War started out with small groups getting bigger and getting more and more support.

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Grenache(5532) Disputed
1 point

No, the Civil War started with bombardment of a US government fort. https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/ civil-war-facts

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Are we "literally" in a civil war?

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