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Ambiguity but no but yes
Debate Score:41
Arguments:48
Total Votes:47
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The ambiguity of Liberal Atheists and sexual immorality

Immoral or not immoral?

-having sex with a donkey
-having sex with your brother
-having sex with your child
-having sex with a balloon
-having sex with your grandmother
-having sex with a cat
-having sex with someone of your own sex

When asked if having sex with your daughter was wrong, I had 3 atheists skate around the topic, unable to answer the question. 1 finally was worn down and simply said,"it is wrong" but then either couldn't or refused to answer why it was wrong.

Ambiguity

Side Score: 27
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but no but yes

Side Score: 14
1 point

-having sex with a donkey

depends

-having sex with your brother

age of both?

-having sex with your child

wrong.

-having sex with a balloon

It's not sex, it's sex toy kinky play and is fine.

-having sex with your grandmother

are you of the age of consent?

-having sex with a cat

depends

-having sex with someone of your own sex

age?

Side: Ambiguity
0 points

Why is man on man not wrong, but man on his grown daughter is wrong? Let's assume he wears a condom. Can he have sex with his 18 year old daughter?

Side: but no but yes
Mingiwuwu(1481) Disputed
1 point

I didn't say it was wrong.

Side: Ambiguity
1 point

Hello Fungus:

Are you telling me that only thing preventing you from FUCKING a donkey is your book????

DUDE!!!

excon

Side: Ambiguity
TheMask(127) Disputed
1 point

Hello excon:

Are you telling me your nose hangs lower than your dick because you are Jacob Rothschild's half brother and one of the Elders of Zion????

DUDE!!!!

TheMask

Side: but no but yes
excon(12966) Disputed
1 point

Hello Jew hater:

I LOVE that you're here hating on me. Keep it up..

Tell me.. I can't keep up.. Are you the DNA denier guy, or the guy who think Jews suck baby's cocks??

excon

Side: Ambiguity

They are all wrong. I’m an atheist and I know this shit. If there is a lord, I’m already screwed enough (pardon the expression).

Side: Ambiguity

First off - great topic!

Second - I’m a Pagan

Last - sex with ANY HUMAN is not wrong as long as that human is OLD ENOUGH to consent and MENTALLY COMPETENT.

>>now, the age of consent is a GRAY AREA. Some say 18 some say 16, etc. I think the AGE DIFFERENCE is very important- I mean if 2 10 year olds have sex I don’t feel it’s a crime.

Side: Ambiguity
1 point

My philosophy on the subject is that if it's between informed and consenting adults of otherwise sound and sober mind, and no one else is getting hurt, then it's nobody else's business. This rules out bestiality, as animals cannot give consent. The one caveat I add to the argument of incest is that since it carries the risk of reproduction, and since the risk of the child being mentally or physically disabled is so high, all precautions must be taken to ensure that doesn't happen I.E. sterilization, whether voluntary or forced. Aside from that, whether or not I find the idea of screwing your brother/grandmother/other relative repulsive is irrelevant.

And hey, if balloons are your thing, go nuts.

Side: Ambiguity
3 points

"-having sex with a donkey

-having sex with your brother

-having sex with your child

-having sex with a balloon

-having sex with your grandmother

-having sex with a cat

-having sex with someone of your own sex"

Donkey or cat: They can't consent, I'd say it's animal cruelty. Wrong.

Brother or grandmother: If consensual and so long as some messed up child isn't produced I don't see anything morally wrong with it. (Not hurting anyone) Pretty weird though. Not wrong.

Someone of same sex: Again, don't see anything wrong with it (not hurting anyone), so I say not wrong.

Balloon: Again, not hurting anyone, I say not wrong.

Child: If underage, can't consent, you could screw them up for life, so you're hurting them, it's wrong. If your child is an adult, same as brother/grandmother scenario.

Side: but no but yes
2 points

Well, here is an atheist that won't skate around it (and you would find many more if you wished to!). All are morally wrong ... with the exception, maybe, of the balloon ;-)... ! I actually don't think you actually found 3 because it's so easy to find conservatives who lie ... like the one in the Waste House. Bad try.

The reason it is wrong is something that is called "common sense", backed up by science. Oh, and that thing about "same sex" ... I don't know of any science against that.

Side: but no but yes
1 point

Penis vs vagina goes against that. What part of science are you referencing on screwing your barren daughter? Why is screwing your daughter with protection wrong, but doing your neighbor Jim up the butt right?

Side: Ambiguity
AlofRI(2806) Clarified
1 point

With that, you have totally walked away from that "common sense" thingy I mentioned. Not much can be done with that kind of mentality .... byeeeee. ( watch your butt .... and your neighbor Jim....)

Side: Ambiguity