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For figurative interpretations Bible is literal and all real
Debate Score:17
Arguments:15
Total Votes:19
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The bible was written to be interpreted figuratively not literally.

Religious books or most of them were meant to be interpreted figuratively, as a child’s book may convey important themes and issues, not meant to be taken as literal, unequivocal truth.  If read literally it is a barometer for intelligence.  

For figurative interpretations

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Bible is literal and all real

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Since my assertion cannot be disproved or proved because we can’t go back in time and ask the people who wrote down the stories contained in the bible, this is really just an expanded opinion, created for the sole purpose of getting people to just for one second doubt the constraints one puts on their own mind, and if they could suspend rigid belief for a nanosecond it would be worth spending time.

My only arguement is a simple challenge, pick up your religious book and read a story, then extend your mind far enough away from the literal translation and like a photograph coming into focus, what was once thought to be sure and finite is now just a thread in a larger tapestry, which extends through history as allegories or truths that can have beneficial effects in their ability to pass this information forward in time.

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It doesn’t matter which way u take it, it’s all the biggest desert hook nose scam and shim sham that’s EVER BEEN!!

Any “goy” who is brain washed by it DESERVES to be enslaved by the money changing crooks. Free your mind - study ancient Nordic beliefs. Black people - check your ancestors religion. Don’t be a sheep

Ba ba

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1 point

Then I think you must be prepared for the possibility that God himself is not to be taken literally, instead as a metaphor for something, like the good inside each of us or whatever. Is that a possibility in your mind? (I assume you are Christian?)

Edit: Oops, you're not a Christian, well my question still applies to Christians who believe some of the bible is not to be taken literally. (Or to believers of different religions)

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No worse injustice in modern society is as pervasive as organized religion, it’s clear control methodology permeates society even as almost all information of human history; science, phsyics, and biology become freely available to anyone on the planet. The holy book that Christians endow with such fanatical reverence is as powerful as another document written in the past.

The founding fathers of the US constitution set forth constraints on religious intervention into politics because they knew, because they had read and understood the allegories contained in Thieistic teaching, how consuming it can be when ‘religious leaders’ take advantage of a group of people with limited faculties to refute them. Early Americans knew very well that a society based on theocracy would quickly fall prey to the whims and desires of the clergy who hold power. The fact that someone had the foresight and compassion to shield societies from this only reinforces the prolific nature of principals such as anger, greed and jealousy that are part of the human psyche, and are inherent in almost all leadership throughout history and today.

The collected works contained in the King James Bible contains stories and ideas that represent the desire of societies to be free from Tyrannical organizations, as does the constitution, and should be viewed historically for the purpose of maintaining those freedoms.

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3 points

Hello Rick,

My friend, bront, tells us about atheist mega church's.. I retort by suggesting that the only people would join a church like that are butthurt Christians. Only a butthurt Christian would ask a question like yours.

TRUE atheists have no beef with the bible or religion. They simply don't believe it. They believe in NOTHING, and it makes no sense for people to join together to celebrate NOTHING..

excon

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Rick_Zeta5A(134) Disputed
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What the fuck does any of that blathering have to do with whether or not facts are facts. Since 97 percent of all people living in North America have had some sort of indoctrination in some type of religion I would call your arguement just stupid. Are you saying you know how I think or what I think.

I used to have to air religious shows on the tv station I worked at and once I was able to look at the information in the bible in an intelligent manner, it was a lock was keyed, every story told as if it was true because if your stupid enough to believe it literally, then you should absolutely stay with it, cause you haven’t yet developed the faculties to comprehend the allegories which stupid people definitely need, because they lack the capacity to come to those conclusions on their own.

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Rick_Zeta5A(134) Disputed
1 point

And furthermore what fuckn moron would celebrate nothing? Athiests celebrate the beauty of the universe and the beauty of the universality of the information contained within it. When you proport that something comes from a magic guy in the sky, and that he commissioned a novel to explain his point of view, it absolves you of the responsibility of having to figure it out. Can’t understand it, oh that’s ok, there’s a story in my book that succinctly explains why you shouldn’t be examining it.

In conclusion your arguement is I’m a butt hurt Christian who joined a mega-church of athiesm as revenge against your imaginary friend. Well that’s certainly explains why the bible is rife with supernatural BS that can’t be reconciled with real life.

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2 points

I believe in a literal Jesus....................................................................................

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Rick_Zeta5A(134) Disputed
0 points

Your literally an idiot, one day you’ll see, and you’ll be like ahhhh I’m an idiot. But if it floats your dingy, go for it, you know if you don’t care about truth.

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OmegaPan(223) Disputed
0 points

You mean you're an idiot. At least use proper grammer you fucking piece of uneducated trash.

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1 point

This time I have to disagree with you rick. The Bible was written (The New Testament, that is.) by a "ruler", an Emperor, and later "re-versioned" by a King. I believe it was written by him to be taken literally to keep people under control. To keep them from thinking much for themselves, except for "nice thoughts". HE could control the Priests, Pastors ... whatever, and thus control the people. I use the same quote I used earlier: Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful." I DO agree that it should NOT be taken literally OR real. The fact that there are other "versions" shows that no one ACTUALLY knows WTF they are talking about.

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Rick_Zeta5A(134) Disputed
1 point

Why would scholars then approve the texts for acceptance to pass into the future? Of course the whole thing was designed as a mandate to enact control over mass populations, but why not then just exclude it all from the finished product unless it also has a deep figurative meaning or is in some way important to the subtext of the rest of the stories?

I think the earlier ‘matrix’ of human thought as it pertained to control was deemed faulty as it undoubtedly failed in its goal to create their utopian society. So then a new system of more allegorical stories emerged from the failure, but left in was a reminder not to revert back to the old ways. More like mental blackmail for the dull, anyone reading the Old Testament can see that’s not going to create a decent society as it relies wholly on fear and intractable suffering.

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OmegaPan(223) Disputed
1 point

@AlofRI

Are you a fucking god damned retard? If you're going to trash religious people at least say something that makes fucking sense and is historically accurate. You have got to be the dumbest, most uneducated dumbass on the entire site.

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AlofRI(1938) Clarified
1 point

@Omegapain

Where did I trash religious people, you nerd? I did NOT! I stated how and why I think the New Testament was written.

The Bibles "parts" were written either in ancient Hebrew or Aramaic on stone tablets, Papyrus, etc.. Sometimes fragments of which survived. This was "interpreted" and written several times by hand, then "translated" into ancient Koine Greek (by Constantine) ... and copied by hand several times, then "translated" into Latin ... and copied by hand several times, then "translated" again into Elizabethan English and PRINTED, finally, with opportunities for error and confusion with every translation and interpretation, at every stage! Now, dumbass, tell me how anything with that history can emerge "historically accurate"!

Side: For figurative interpretations
1 point

There are parts of it that are meant to be taken figuratively and there are parts of it that are meant to be taken literally. However, this does not take away from the fact that the entire thing is true

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