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All this proves is that quantum particles dont behave according to the same laws of physics that govern matter. Which i couldve told you in the first place.

Not even close to proof of god.

All this does is create the question: "why do they not behave according to physical laws that govern matter?" or "how can an electron appear to be in multiple places at once?"

And thats all its proof of. Its proof that we dont understand it yet. Its a gap in our knowledge.

To say it proves god is just you injecting god as the answer to these questions without any evidence that its the case.

Its just a god of the gaps argument that you preluded with science. You found a gap in the body of scientific knowledge and your argument is "because we dont know therefore god".

That isnt how it works. You actually need to prove god exists first and prove that he ist the one causing this phenomena.

Which we both know you cant do.

Thats what all of these "X is proof of god" argument tend to be. Just god of the gaps arguments based upon various different scientific shortcomings. So i could really just copy and paste this answer for all of them

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-"why do they not behave according to physical laws that govern matter?"-

It looks like we are both asking that very question.

And with my "The beast is strong with this one" page, I show you how we know what it is.

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AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
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Sure, we both ask that question and my answer is "i dont know" but you posit a god and i would no-doubt contest your arguments for said god.

So please make those arguments here. Im not interested in browsing your facebook page in search of the arguments that you apparently have. If you have em than make em here.

Also ive tried to go to your page before and its a closed group.

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-"Which we both know you cannot do."-

Sure I can. I even provided you my site showing you exactly what is going on.

https://m.facebook.com/The-Beast-is-Strong-in-This-One-273041423117102/

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AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
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A bunch of low resolution images of people giving speeches and bible quotes are not arguments and theyre not evidence. You only reinforced my statement that i know you cant prove it. If this is the caliber of evidence you have to offer then my statement rests.

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-"And thats all its proof of. Its proof that we dont understand it yet. Its a gap in our knowledge."-

Agreed. It looks like, based on this assessment, that this generation wasn't the one with the right scientific knowledge to qualify to tell us that God doesn't exist. This generation has more tough scientific "gaps" than any generation before. It has way more than when I was young, so actually, your generation has more reason to believe than mine did, and yet yours is less believing. Of course Atheists didn't start indoctrinating and becoming militant until recent times.

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AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
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-"And thats all its proof of. Its proof that we dont understand it yet. Its a gap in our knowledge."-

Agreed. It looks like, based on this assessment, that this generation wasn't the one with the right scientific knowledge to qualify to tell us that God doesn't exist.

That isnt science's job. Science doesnt have to prove your god doesnt exist. You have to prove he does. The burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. Science doesnt even say god doesnt exist. Science doesnt even touch that question. But when confronted by it science would ask "wheres the evidence he does exist? Lets test that and examine that to see if it holds up. Is there a way to measure god? How would we be able to prove he exists?" ect ect. And when evidence is presented its tested and never holds up.

This generation has more tough scientific "gaps" than any generation before.

If anything it has less, but thats an irrelevant point. If we have more gaps its only because we learned more and thus created more gaps. The more questions we answer the more questions we create. Gaps arent a bad thing which is what it seems like youre implying here.

It has way more than when I was young, so actually, your generation has more reason to believe than mine did, and yet yours is less believing

No it doesnt because you dont posit any evidence for this god. Gaps in knowledge are not evidence that the knowledge we have is poor. Science doesnt claim to know everything. It only claims to know what it knows. And weve gotten smarter to the point where we know so much more that we dont know.

For instance in early hundreds BC they looked at lightning and the gap was "how does that happen?" then when they figured out how it happened it created like 20 more gaps like "how do electrical charges work? Are they particles? Are they waves? What creates the sound?" Ect ect ect. As we figured out the first gap we found ourselves with many more gaps. And every one of those you fill is bound to open more. And so on and so on. As you know more you realize how little you truly know. Thats one thing that makes science so thrilling. it never ends. Discovery never ends. How could it?

Of course Atheists didn't start indoctrinating and becoming militant until recent times.

Well we werent even able to be athiests admittedly until several decades ago. And even today in many places youre beheaded for it. So sorry if we might be a little bitter about that

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