The elements fire water earth and air which one would win?
The war of the elements a seemingly never ending war that will end when earth pwns all the other elements. =)
Air would win easily. Wind can erode earth. Air could (assuming that the elements are intelligent; though they would have to be in order to fight) redistribute oxygen to instantly snuff out any fires. Air can also take in water, break it apart (as in evaperation) and redistribute it whereever it chooses.
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"your an idiot"
Good start. I think you mean "you're."
"without fire eveporation dosent accur (sic)"
Yes it does. Solar energy causes evaporation of water. This is a standard part of the water cycle.
"fire will just attack the person who has the oxygen if you attck with air you give oxygen to the fire"
I'm sure I explained this very very clear in my post.
"if you want to no about the elements ask me cause you are weak (sic)"
I think I'm fine on my own thanks.
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not true it does and shes or he i don't know witch has the right words for it your beat man just say it air rules then fire is gone cause your done for
OK what are you guys being for Halloween tell me now or i will go and tell your momma lol i so need to get to school I'm going to be late OK see you guys later oh and tell your momma i said hi lol just kidding see ya
But air doesn't move on its own; air relies on pressure changes due to the hydraulic cycle (water) and temperature differentials (fire) for the overwhelming majority of its movements. Air also relies on gravity (earth) to hold it together when it would otherwise disperse across the universe.
Without water and fire to back it, air just sits there, not eroding anything. Without earth to bind it, air disperses, spread far too thin to effect anything.
Air could be called the strongest of the elements but it is entirely reliant upon the other three. Fire is slightly better off, requiring fuel from the earth and air, but not directly reliant on water. Earth and water can stand alone.
Also- evaporation is not all air, its about 50-50 air and fire, as both temperature and air pressure (overall and partial pressure of dissolved water) are factors in it.
Yea but it's still earth. Just because it gets blown around a whole bunch doesn't mean anything. Also it takes thousands of years of wind to do any real damage. I don't know about you, but if your best attack takes a millennium to take affect then your doing something wrong.
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guys guys lets just say air wins and end this earth is out because fire can burn it to a crisp if the rock is big the its like a shield so big fight on earth vs fire and water is just a bla bla bla bla bla thing it cant do any thing..........AIR RULES FIRE SUCKS EARTH STINKS AND WATER IS JUST BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
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man why is this guy always talking about earth and how can something split air gosh do u hav a brain air is unsplitable man do some reasearch lol and nxt time make a gud excuse who gives about dirt clearly if u didnt hav air u or even the trees cant breathe haha
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You know that you CAN split air, right? I mean, pretty much everything that has ever moved of has had wind move on it has. Air is just a collection of gasses, and these gasses don't have any type of "super bond" that prevents the separation of air molecules. Earth, being the solid, would have the least energy actively moving the molecules and thus would take the most energy to split, making it the hardest to split.
without air earth wouldnt even exsist air is uncotrollable it moves around and even if u cant see it its still there earth cant move u need a force witch could take hundreds of years to evolve and how can dirt make the air durty and anyway what could what ? DUST do to you nothing maybe make you snezze but wait u can recover that in like what two seconds lol
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let me explain somthing to all of u
i belive air is the best element
firstly water and earth combine with air and with out air the water cycle will be tampered and there is nomore reproducing
earth needs air for the oxygen.the plants needs the cycle of photosynthesis because other wise all the trees will die down and whats the point living in earth if u cannot breathe
fire is simple.fire is depending on air or wind to be present .the more air the bigger the fire if there is no air then the flame goes out
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let me give u some information on why air is important
air and water: water is made up of two elements 2 HYDROGEN atoms and one OXYGEN atom.since water is a liquid element it needs its gas elements to form it .air is a gas element and without the air the wter cannot exsist .water needs its oxygen.
earth and air: earth has oxygen in it why?? if there is oxygen there is life the presence of oxygen in our atmosphere has given humans,water,earth,FIRE to live otherwise im sorry to say we die
air and fire : what is volcanoes compared to cyclones,weather change,tornadoes etc the lifespan of a volcanoe is a teaspoon compared to these air changing happenings plus without air the fire is DEAD so SHUT UP MAXINA JUST BECAUSE IM RIGHT AND UR 120% WRONG!!!! BRING IT ON
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The traditional "elements" are an arbitrary list of matter, energy, or the two interacting. None of them are actually in any sort of conflict with one another, they are simply interacting and affecting each other.
First off, what an element is tends to be rather vague or overly inclusive:
Air can mean anything from wind to the relatively common gasses in our atmosphere.
Fire can mean anything from flames (which are not a substance but a chemical reaction) to lava from volcanic eruptions or the eruptions themselves.
Earth can mean any of the hundreds of naturally occurring solid (Periodic Table of) elements in the earth (metals included), or any of the thousands of combinations of those elements. Additionally, it can also mean plants, especially large wood trees.
Water is the most straightforward of the traditional, mythological, elements. Mist, dew, streams, oceans, glasses of...water.
No real reason why they are singled out as fundamental. It's also well-known that they are not, in fact, fundamental. Atoms are the basic buildings blocks of matter, and the transmitters of energy.
Secondly; no element has anything to lose or gain for another. Water doesn't "win" if it extinguishes a fire. It doesn't get points, get more voting in "element congress", or win a medal of some kind.
In reality, all of the elements are working in tandem. They are interacting on a massive scale, and in most cases they are creating each other.
The gravity of our hot sun helped condense Hydrogen and Oxygen to make H2O, it then heated it to liquid form. It, of course, condensed space matter and dust into the Earth itself, creating the "earth" element. Air and wood create fire, the oceans and sun create wind...etc...etc...etc...
No winning, no losing, just the beautiful orchestra of our world and universe.
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This is what water said about the matter: If you want to hear what the other candidates had to say, go to holopoet and drop me a note - perhaps I can coax some of the other elements to speak. (sorry about the little 'flyspecs' - the input form at this site is not very 'poetry-friendly'.)
Listen a moment, water-born friends
Sons and daughters of the ocean spray
Hear fairly what i've come to say,
And thus petition on behalf of strangers,
From many distant quarters,
Matters which this council must now weigh.
Which of you has not so suffered:
Felt the chill of air's disturbance?
Been thrice scalded in fiery steam?
Or choked on sediments of earth,
Till once great visions dim
Upon a tide of clouded dream?
Who among us claims no elemental hand
Profaned the sacred texts of the Sea
And, by ignorance or cruel design,
Abruptly tore from us our reveries
And plunged us into dissonance?
.......... Aye, we know the case dear brother,
..........As one often pressed before;
..........And, well you know, concluded
..........It is almost time for war.
I'm not here to speak of that;
The litany of 'plaints and costs,
Nor eulogize the ones in prison,
Driven mad or counted lost
From the pride and grace of Ocean's
I've thought of this for many years;
Saw much, till now, I did not understand;
Counted many broken hearts, on either side
- Saw as many drown'd as saved -
And above the din of savage battle,
Heard those who raved and those who cried.
Who can deny, among the casualties:
Friends and lovers we've left upon the shore?
Those we've abandoned to the world,
While we retreated to our quiet pools
Convinced that we could do no more;
And did no more?
..........Aye, we don't deny. We don't deny
..........or make excuses. As you know,
..........That's not our way to reckon
I lay no blame for what has passed,
Nor cant the death upon the shore.
Still, we know, beneath the oceans veil,
Within the buried History of Tears,
How Gaia dreamed in blood and stone as well,
And, with each breath, apportioned four.
How hot desire roused the sleeping Dream,
From whose strange songs fair Earth was made,
Then gently wrapped in swaddling Air,
Was taken to her Mother's breast
Where fell mixed tears of gratitude and pain.
Are we not reminded upon every tide:
What could be more earthly
.....than the earthly sea?
Or bright with power than a breaking wave
Filled with Fire's sensuality?
To spread upon some distant sandy home,
Where it comes to rest as airy foam?
..........We know that each alone would fall,
..........Were it not imbued with the character
..........But, where others dominate and ruin,
...........Even those in sympathy would wish
........... to leave that home.
..........We are driven away by the pain.
..........We are frightened by the destruction.
..........Our visions be broken and abandoned
..........Amidst the fury of Discord's obsessed
Yes, perhaps that's true. Yet deem,
That our greatest visions fall unheard
As much from our neglectful word:
That Poetry's become a pale shadow,
And Dance is just preserved;
Though industry of word is known,
Rare is the History or Dream,
Rarer yet does something grow.
So we must hold to the channel
Where our knowledge is still sought;
Yet, watch that mix of pride and power
That would, by careless thought,
Extinguish fire's lamp,
Dampen airy spirits
And batter earthen walls
Till each, in turn, would fall.
By that deed would we stand
So accused, as though accuser be;
And, while the rage increases,
Let there be no doubt;
As Air disperses into pale whisper,
And shadows grow on Fire's ashen pyre,
And Earth reveals field upon barren field,
So, too, the watery lamp goes out.
..........We have heard. And we agree
..........That this line of reason be more
..........Than a simple tributary.
..........What, however, there remains to show
.........Is by what device this stream
..........Would flow? Or, by what star
...........We might find safe to navigate
...........Through this wandering season?
Only this I keep, washed in the gravels
.....of my experience:
How I saw my own mother weep
As confusion led to near despair,
When I, myself, so let my vision seep
Beneath a conversation's want
To drown that most congenial Air.
And again, when time after time,
I would see my own beloved
Try to climb above the wash of notion
And see what might be built on earth,
Only to be swept into an ocean of idea
Or flooded so with doubt or shame
That threatened to put out the flame.
And, finally, my own stubborn view
That I could wander thus, forever
On some lonely ocean shelf,
Or, find completion in the company
Of those, who like myself,
Preferred above all else the sea.
I only add that now, combined with
Earth and Air and Fire,
I seek a difficult though surer way
.....to Dream's desire.
..........Do you not fear dilution of the dream
..........And, by that combination, be consumed?
Indeed I do. But, rather seek the truth
Of knowing that which I possess,
And that which I do not;
Thus, though I stood as part, and only part,
Could I be released from bitter isolation.
Is this task not worthy of the risk?
For what, I ask, is the alternative
But certain destruction that can offer
..........That case we now consider:
..........Whether the retreat among our kind
..........Was driven by necessity,
..........Or merely the reflected resignations
..........From within the mirrored pools
.........Of our own minds.
Sons and Daughters of the sea:
Such is our way, and so it is petitioned
On behalf of those who search as we
For the restoration of this goal;
Speak to your respective councils,
That each of us may find that harmony.
And Gaia, who had birthed us all,
In blood and stone and tear and sigh,
Can thus reveal what once quickened
In the oceans of Eternity.
(c) 1996 red slider
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Of course air would win! Neither fire nor water nor earth can harm it so generally speaking it IS the most powerful element! It rules the others! Earth would smother fire while water will win over fire as well!
So looking at it, fire does seem to be dangerous but it can be considered the weakest as all the other three elements can defeat it easily though air might spread it around and help it progress!
However, coming back to the debate, who can harm air? Air can do that can't it?
Air definitely wins and it is MY element! Gemini here! Ruled by air! Not supporing it due to this reason though! I call facts as I see & no other opinion sounds more logical than this!
Let the other three battle to see who comes in second but
You are right in saying that it isn't a tangible object (let's ignore the fact that fire isn't either). That also means that it is a huge weakness for air. Making any sort of defensive barrier would be impossible, and any attacks from earth (and to a lesser extent, water) would hit you directly. Also, you would need to apply much more energy to any sort of air (or even worse, fire) attack in order to try to cancel out the earth or air. The only way to circumvent this would be to have a ridiculous amount of air pressure, requiring a ridiculous amount of suction, to the point where you may suffocate yourself. Fire, being a plasma, would be even worse, due to the aforementioned reasons (ignoring the air pressure argument).
You are all stupid. It's obvious that lightning is the superior element, even if it isn't one of those listed. :p Lightning is basically just a big ass electrical current that can slice through air, become stronger when it hits water, makes fire, and can burn earth. So therefore lightning is the most kickass element ever! And to answer your question more accurately, lightning would win. :D
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first of all lightting is not one of the above cause its a sub power of fire u idiot, and no specific element wind sbecause without air fire is gone without fire earth is gone without water or life air is gone so stop all complaining u idiots, y do u think earth air water and fire r considered the four primary elements , non would win,
So your saying if Earth and Wind vs Each other, than noone wins right?
well then Neither earth nor wind can be the actual winner if u put it like that.
i vote the Water wins, and your debate is making u sound stupid.
My element is fire right, but i no when i get beaten, and fire comes last of the ladder. bc wind controls fire throo oxygen, fire cannot be without oxygen.
next would have top be wind since the only reason there is wind is bc of land forms and trees, and also wen warm air (due to heat off of the EARTH) and cool air (due to cld off of the ocean/WATER), so really the two top competitors are WATER and EARTH.
Water V Earth; Water would have to come out on top, The only reason is because over 70% of Earth IS in actual fact Water, water errodes Earth and breaks it down, yes when u add water to dirt it becomes mud, but lets look at it this way, Water beats Fire, Fire can smetimes beat Earth, just because it dirt also, doesnt mean that Earth isn't made up of Vegetation either. Earth has alot of vegetation on it and throo it, so Earth cant win when Water eliminates Fire all together. Like i said before, Water errodes Earth very easily.
SO there you Have it, WATER wins!!!
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hell no your right about water being the best but fire has the same power how bout i list all the things about them water has ice darkness spiritual water sometimes emotions and sometimes emotions also it controls any liquid and anything cold fire has light lightning spiritual fire which can burn without oxygen magma which burns underwater anger for some and this includes anything to do with heat and im not listing all things here
Earth would win.
Let's look at the scenarios.
Fire Vs. Earth - Earth doesn't burn, pile enough sand on the fire, it goes out.
Air Vs. Earth - Oooo air blows the earth around. Its still there. Earth causes the air to get all dusty and gross. Neither actually defeat each other.
Water Vs. Earth - They don't fight, they combine to become mud. Which is still earth. (Pour some water on your dirt, the water disappears and there is only mud left. Since mud is earth, it is still standing.
Earth is the champion!
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that is extremely dibateble by saying earth can control ur bones and have a painful death, water will drown u or manipulate ur blood and making u die yet again exstremely painfuly and fire well it could boyol ur blood and/ or brain and kill u instantly so thats not realy a 1up for air dude.
well water or fire would win because they control dark and light think about it you cant hurt either some more reasonswater vs air blow it away it comes back absorb it it comes back earth and water earth any plants would die if to much gets absorbed comes back water vs fire goes any way fire vs wind fire burns on it and sucks up all the air and gets more powerful earth vs fire easy attack with a rock only delays it plants burn so its a tie between water and fire.
Well I think all elements are even if u r talking about magic but if its science then maybe Earth or fire. I kinda like Lightning though.
But I don't know why so many like air, I think Air has the most variety but Its not the strongest. Like if its air verses Earth u could say air
errodes Earth or u pressure the air to make it cut stone, but think of the imence energy required to compress it to the extent where it could cut
stone. If its Earth u could use that same energy to compress its self so Air wouldn't be able to scratch it. Earth could trap air and force its
way through it so it could hurt the user. Air can pick up stuff but then again think of the energy needed to do so.
With fire Wind can blow out fire, but what about an actual explosion u can't blow that out, or nuclear fusion or fission. Fire could heat the air
current to control it or deflect it. Thats how the Weather Works.
With Wind against Water there kinda the same but water is made of something stronger than air, there is nothing holdning the air molecules together
whereas water has intermolecular forces between the molecules to if they both clash the air would fall apart because nothing is holding it together.
The only reason wind affects the tides is because the water doesn't resist they both work together thats nature.
In terms of fighting Style like magic I would go with lightning, its just cool to me. Wind represents Freedom, Earth is Sustenance, Fire and water
is something I can't remember the Avatar episode.
I if we take it down to molecular level then they are all the same really wind is just made of small molecules water is a stronger material same with
Earth is made of an even stronger material. u can't fight a steal sword with a paper one.
I guess fire would win in that case because fire is energy its everything. Without it nothing moves So Fire has more energy than wind and the other
elements so it would win.
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hey guys its me again and uh well ive been playing this game called combat arms and ive asked a few of the people or should i say about alot of the the pople that play that game and ive kept track of there votes for the argument and well let me tell u the results..............water-63 votes.... earth-96 votes....fire-120 votes......air-198 votes so air wins thank u guys and ill be leaving some more things and im keeping track of the votes for this month so see ya oh and nash shut up air wins ok thank you and bye and remember AIR RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OH LOOK, water would win, its the most vital and strongest out of them all. lets look at this:
Fire vs Water - meh, water just extinguishes the fire. Water wins!!
Air vs Water - its a tie!! they are both the same power. but water is still more vital.
earth vs water - water can drown earth, and invades it. mud is more water than earth, as its all soggy and its been scientificly tested.
Water is the champion
It's a tie.
With only one element, one cannot surpass nothing.
Each element has to rely on each other so they can surpass each other.
Most say water and some say air (and other elements) but yeah,
without each other they cannot surpass no element.
I don't know what I just said there. I'm 12 and my element is fire.
what else does it do???
apart from the occasional death and manslaghter of innocent animals around u
if u were a vocano and u only wanted to attack one guy ull end up killing the whole village
interesting thought lets see can u controll where the lava flows?? and like i said u need air for fire and think about it the volcanos will be closed and it most of it would never blow up for another lets see