I was raised by a Swedish mother. What does this mean? This means that I was raised to avoid clothing At All Times. I love being naked, anywhere, anytime. It's not something I'm embarrassed of (although I have deathly low self-esteem, helloooo BPD) or that seems sexual to me, which leads to a lot of misunderstandings amongst my fellow adolescents. Just yesterday, I was scolded by a woman on my private beach for going topless. I simply don't understand what's wrong with it or why I need to cover up.
97 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
There's obviously nothing wrong or shameful with the naked body, but you have to understand when you live in a sexually repressed Puritanical society you are going to rub people the wrong way (pun intended) if you have a mature sexual attitude.
97 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
Which is exactly the problem I'd like to correct by showing that nudity isn't something to be repressed. Sigh.
97 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
Good luck with that Doña Quixote. In all seriousness I wish you the best of luck in trying to make people understand, but Puritanism is so ingrained in this country's culture I don't see a sexual revolution in the near future.
97 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
It's just a culture clash. Americans are typically raised to think nudity is only for showers and closed doors. Some react to it like that woman and others react to it by staring in amazement! ;)
The naked body is shamelessly natural. Having said that, I looked at your link and that's the reason why people need to cover up. Did you see all those ugly people? They're not movie stars! ;)
I don't have too much of a problem with nudity. I just have some guidelines to it. First off, I don't think it should just be anywhere, especially in a place where a child might see you. When I was a kid I would have been mortified if I saw a naked person. Secondly, especially in America, I would really REALLY prefer if gross looking fat people kept their clothes on. No offense to them, but I really don't feel like seeing a guy mow his lawn with fat rolls and a huge beer belly. Similar to this, excessive hair is also kind of gross. If I ever become a wolf/man hybrid type person, I'll most likely keep my shirt on at almost all times. And I want to send a message to old men that when you're in a locker room, it doesn't mean "Let's all get naked! w00t!" Please, for the love of God, put a towel on! >.<
I get where you're coming from, but, in my opinion, that is exactly the issue that needs to be addressed. Children shouldn't be ashamed of nudity; it's a perfectly natural thing. I mean, toddlers run around ecstatic and naked until someone tells them that it's not right. Why? And by allowing people to see us fully, we become more aware of our bodies, hence more likely to take care of them (and not be fat). Either way, collective nudity discourages those judgments and encourages accepting all ages, body types, levels of hairiness....
Ewwww hair is disgusting. >.< I get the chills when I think of it. And I don't mean to offend hairy people. Some people like hairy people. I'm not one of them.....
LMAO! Please, for the love of God, put a towel on! >.< Dude, that's the most true thing you've ever said! I swear I never gave a rat's ass about who was naked where or when until I started going to gyms after high school. lol, these old guys are so grotesque! It's not even about the nakedness, it's simply disturbing and they don't give a damn! Like they want us to not be able to eat for a week!
97 days ago | Tagged As: depends
There's nothing shameful about the naked body. However, just because something is natural, doesn't mean its OK to flash in front of other people. Taking a dump is natural, but I don't think anyone would be OK with people crapping in the street. Also note that people usually uncover the parts of their body that are needed to communicate or to perform a task. Which is why we show our faces and our hands. When you take a dump you uncover you bum. When you swim you uncover a lot more cause it makes swimming more efficient. It's only when you make love that the whole naked body is offered to someone else. That is the beauty of it. That's what makes full nudity so special. It's that sense of vulnerability and full exposure to a person you have feelings for. Why flaunt this to all and everybody? Why give away all of your sexual bodily mystery for the sake of feeling "natural" and "changing attitudes"? I just find it juvenile. Why is "changing other people's attitudes" so important anyway? Maybe they like their attitude. And if it is that important to you to be naked outdoors then by all means, there are places where you can do that.
96 days ago | Tagged As: depends if its private or public
Clearly, nudity and taking a dump are not the same thing. You suggest that we should only uncover what is necessary. Then nothing really needs to be uncovered. Perhaps we shouldn't permit short skirts or pants, or peep-toe shoes, or short-sleeved shirts, or V-necks.... I wish to separate nudity from sexuality. That's all I have to say on that subject. If you think that it's pointless to try to create change... well... I mean, firstly, why are you on this website? And secondly, what's your purpose in life?
96 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
Speaking solely from my experience as an American, I can safely say that our mainstream society has put a taboo upon one of the most natural things on Earth. The female breasts were (and still are) designed to nurture babies. Male and female reproductive organs were simply created for the purpose of "reproduction". Why such a stigma surrounds nudity is beyond me. Nobody talks about it, yet men want to have a bigger penis and women want "perfect" breasts. I honestly enjoy being naked for the sole purpose of being naked. It's freeing and natural. My friends understand me, though they don't take the same liberties as I do.
97 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
I'm a religious person, and I like to look at the Bible when issues such as these arise (that's just me though). Technically speaking, nudity is not a sin or is not sinful. I do not think though that God looks favorably upon nudist colonies or other nudist activities because he clothed Adam and Eve when they came out of the garden. If God was favorable toward it, I don't think he would have done that. Again, private nudity is okay but when it comes to public nudity, it is not okay. I think that is why you see so many people taking offense to it in the US, with a majority of people being religious and all.
97 days ago | Tagged As: depends if its private or public
Ah Jeez, In the Bible, Adam and Eve were naked, and were not made to wear clothes until they felt shame. The most common english translations are incorrect and would lead one to believe it was the nakedness that was bad, it was not. There are quite a few interpretations of what this parable meant, most likely what it meant by "eating" the forbidden fruit, was non-baby making sex. They were doing it, perhaps during Eve's period? When pregnancy would have been unlikely? Maybe some oral, you know "eating"? Not sure they were that clever though. Unfortunately it's been translated so many times no one really knows, and the originals are lost to time. At any rate, the idea behind the clothing in the Puritan sense, was that Adam was not able to control his hormones, and would be compelled, through no fault of his own, to mount his woman at every oportunity. Which is why hardcore Old Testament religions like their women hidden under a mountain of clothes, barefoot, and pregnant at all times. So it's basically based on sexism. Another in a long line of reasons why the Bible is a ridiculous source for a moral code. Private nudity would most certainly not be okay according to this parable, even in a marriage, unless it was for the express purpose of baby making sex. There's nothing in that parable that would lead one to believe it's even okay for a husband and wife to be naked together. That's just the Bible people picking and choosing what they like, or the furthest they think people will accept. Typical. If one feels no shame in being naked, then there's nothing wrong with it. If someone doesn't like it, don't look, if some guy feels an uncontrollable urge to rape, buy a hooker. "You mean jack-off right? haha, I mean buying a hooker is sinful... well so is jacking off, but hookers are worse!" Wrong again Bible dude. "It is better to pour your seed on the belly of a prostitute, than to let when drop touch the earth." Which means hookers > masterbation in god's eyes... lmao, but try to get the flock to accept that obvious interpretation, pick and choose, pick and choose.
97 days ago | Tagged As: depends
There's nothing inherently wrong with nudity. But, I do think that people have to right to not be forced to see naked people everywhere they go...because whether or not it should be associated with sexuality, it IS in most of our current society, and if it's going to freak someone out, they shouldn't HAVE to see it. So no, of course there's nothing wrong with being naked, but I personally would prefer if people have their nudist colonies rather than walking in front of me. X_X But that's my own issues due to the society in which I was raised, and I'm aware of that. But I also know that people can't just automatically "desexualize" nudity in their minds, so I don't think unrestricted, completely public nudity would be a good thing at this point in our society.
If we all became nudists or something, nudity wouldn't be as awesome as it is right now. I think we're at the perfect moment, where there's still some mystery, but it's still something looked at in a sexual manner (if you're into it: FOTC!!!) Plus, right now, nudity can also be funny (see Bruno). If everyone just becomes naked... it won't be that sexual or that funny anymore. Same thing if we no longer use censors on television. The word fuck will lose all of its power.
97 days ago | Tagged As: Maintain the Power
My wish is that nudity and sexuality are to be separated.
96 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
But like I said, it then loses it power and will just be another boring custom. Just like tying your shoes or walking. If you want nudity to be special, leave it how it is.
96 days ago | Tagged As: Maintain the Power
I don't want it to be special. I want it to be accepted as healthy, natural, and normal.
96 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
Why remove the uniqueness out of something. Why make something non-special? Why just make it as normal as everything else. Well, what's interesting is that you wouldn't think of this at all if it were just a normal thing... you wouldn't think about how "natural" it is if it were actually natural. As for healthy, tell that to mosquitoes...
96 days ago | Tagged As: Maintain the Power
You could make the same argument for women who are forced to cover their faces when in public. And it is natural, it's just that I and most societies have been conditioned to think otherwise. Obviously, clothing or other precautions need to be taken to avoid those sorts of dangers. But, you know, this guy seems to be avoiding the bugs pretty well.... :)
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Naked Hiking Day
(nakedinvermont.com)
96 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
Women are forced to cover their faces as an expression of how the man owns the woman. But in America, we distinguish private parts. Basically, the sexual organs, primary and secondary. Breasts are a secondary sexual organ because they were created through Evolution as a means for humans to have sex (which is why Missionary is the standard version of sex instead of Doggy Style... it all started with homo-erectus... really, Evolution is quite fascinating when you study shit like that...). The face, on the other hand, is a mere attraction tool used in basic human survival. The difference in facial features, which serves many purposes other than attraction. Breasts, on the other hand, serve as a visual sexual aid. There is no other VISUAL means for it. To suggest that sexual organs are NOT supposed to be sexual is against Evolution... really.
96 days ago | Tagged As: Maintain the Power
And people are forced to cover their bodies as an expression of how "bad" it is to be unclothed. I'm actually very curious, though. Breasts were created as a means for humans to have sex? I thought their sole purpose was to nurture infants. Please, please, expand. It's too much effort to Google, and I'm supposed to be packing, which is why I'm on CD.... I suppose it's all a matter of different societies, upbringings, whatever, but I don't think there really is any reason that modern humans have to associate nudity with sexuality.
96 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
Nipples have always existed on mammals. They were never sexual organs but still provided milk and shit. But for humans (because sexual organs and the stature of humans themselves are built more for missionary) secondary sexual organs (meant for stimulation... arousal) were needed on the front instead of the back. This is why breasts are enlarged (mammals are naturally attracted to larger things, which is why on average men prefer big boobs... it goes to the primal instincts of the Homo-Sapian). Also, the way Evolutionary Psychology explains how Nature found a way, the nurture that breasts gave to infants explains why men love breasts when they grow older. It comes "naturally" to them. In all fact, it is part of a Natural, yet Conditioning, form. Most women use their bosom for others' comforts as a natural instinct, which is why babies get the most of it (because all animals naturally wish to protect and nurture their young). Men create an attraction to that bosom and women (over some time, because we are humans with "tradition") are accepting of that attraction. Sexual arousal to the naked body comes naturally to humans. It comes from how we have evolved into civilized beings. Obviously, Natural Selection and Evolution takes its own course and doesn't have to do with the jungle all the time... it can very well take over in civilization as well. Now... I don't know how to describe why EXACTLY, breasts create a sexual arousal. That is only because I never took a sexology course (yet, i'm thinking about it). But you see all conditions leading up to that missing link from comfort and nurture to sexual arousal. It does NOT come from TV or a taboo. It comes from thousands of years of civilized evolution. As for your first comment, clothing was created to protect the body from nature. We do not have a thick coating of hair like our origins do (primates). If you go on an average beach, though, you will see that everything is showing except for sexual organs. The reasons for this going all the way back to how we wish to continue to view nudity in its power instead of just being another, average thing. Why take something so amazing and just make it bland?
96 days ago | Tagged As: Maintain the Power
See MK's arguement too because he's right. 1. Naked is always natural. 2. But sometimes it's also shameful and this has 0 to do with anything Puritan, there's a health issue here So here are the naked rules: 1. No fat people. Fat is unnatural so keep your fat ass covered or quit eating like a pig. 2. Old people... especially men. You disgust everyone. Yes, even in the locker room. I don't care how straight I am, if your balls are swinging 3ft, and your cock looks like an inverted pen cap and you have old people spots bigger than my head on your ass, I'm going to notice, and I will vomit in my mouth. 3. Sasquash, you know who you are. Man has been walking the earth for hundreds of thousands of years, we've built homes, air conditioning, heaters, showers, and every kind of hair removing aparatus imaginable. There is no survival reason for you to maintain your rastafarian body dreads, they smell within a 10ft radius like burning sulfur and brimstone, they have god knows what clinging to them, you are not a cudly bear, you are a Middle Earth Troll and you need to either cover yourself or get some trimmers.
97 days ago | Tagged As: depends
You disgust everyone. Not me. Nudity discourages those kinds of judgments; judging someone because they're old, or built differently, or... hairy. It helps people accept everyone's different bodies.
Or makes everyone hyper-self-conscious because whereas they could have used clothes to cover up the parts of themselves they don't like, it's now on view to the whole world. For example: my brother believes that he has big ears. In order to cover this fact up, he wears his hair long enough so people can't see his ears. Obviously nudity wouldn't effect his particular decision, but if what your embarrassing characteristic was somewhere else (chest, stomach, arms, legs etc...) there would be no way to avoid everyone from seeing it. Think about girls who are bulimic already. What if they had to show off there bodies all the time? I doubt that this would help them, and would probably exacerbate the problem.
Exactly. Your argument supports exactly the point I'm trying to make. The fact that people feel the need to be so perfect and thin and to "cover up" parts of themselves is exactly why nudity is so healthy. What better way is there to prove that nobody is perfect, and that healthy, beautiful bodies come in every shape and size, than for us to celebrate our naked, natural bodies? We shouldn't find any part of our body embarrassing. Society needs to rethink what is shameful.
Point taken, but I think you're fooling yourself if you think merely having people be more comfortable with nudity would make people less judgmental about physical appearance. Scars, acne, stretch marks, and fat would still be seen as unattractive, and people don't like being reminded that they are unattractive. There will always be people who are beautiful and people who aren't with or without clothing. With clothing, those who aren't can at least use fashion to make expressions about who they are, and feel somewhat sheltered from people's judging eyes. It's the same reason women wear makeup. Our faces are technically naked, but people still feel ashamed of how they look so they must cover up. Don't think that I'm saying your idea is a bad one; I certainly agree that nudity shouldn't be such a taboo, but there's a reason we wear clothes, and it's not just out of a sense of prudishness. Clothes are a choice, and what your body looks like is not (unless we're talking about weight or tans). Would you rather have someone judge you based on your choices or what you've been genetically programmed to look like?
Scars, acne, stretch marks, and fat would be seen as normal, which they are, not unattractive. I do wear clothing (most of the time) and makeup because of society's conditioning, despite how my mother may have raised me. But I recognize that both of these are largely unnecessary and possibly emotionally/physically unhealthy. By eliminating clothing, we do eliminate that last factor you pointed out, the factor of choice. The bottom line is that some people dress well and some people don't. Some people have money enough to dress very well and some people don't. People have different tastes in fashion, or none at all. That makes judging by a chosen appearance even more harmful than judging by our natural state.
96 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
I disagree, I think there is a difference between judging a person, and being disgusted by the way their body looks. Some of my best friend are ugly ;)
96 days ago | Tagged As: depends
But do they disgust you? The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.
96 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
lol, YES! I'm sickened by their appearance, and I suggest they should always wear a mask in public because I find their faces quite offensive! But seriously, I'm not 100% convinced seeing more naked old men in the locker room with old people spots and sacks that hang to their knees will ever make it any less disgusting. I'm not sure how everyone being naked would desensitize people to monstrosities such as these. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe you're just weird for not being bothered for it, either way, I'm all for good looking naked people.
96 days ago | Tagged As: depends
I personally think that all bodies are beautiful if they're loved and respected, especially the wrinkled and the flabby and the deformed. I don't just say this; I really mean it. I mean, this is gorgeous, my friend's photo gallery. How can you say it's not?
Supporting Evidence:
i of the Beholder
(christinebenjamin.com)
96 days ago | Tagged As: Nudity ftw
I see nothing shameful about the human body although I think it's a shame how some people keep their bodies so out of shape. It's great when you see a naked person that is in the best of shape and I think everyone can appreciate that unless they're jealous that the person has a much nicer body than their own. Public nudity can be an abberation to some and I must say I include myself in that assessment. I truly don't wish to be walking down Fifth Avenue and see two naked people walking arm in arm, no matter how great their bodies might be. On the beach it's a different story and a place where you can always expect some degree of nudity. Nudity has its time and place as most things do.
96 days ago | Tagged As: natural
As long as you aren't offending anyone, and as long as it isn't overtly sexual, then go for it. However, in the US, most people ARE offended by nudity and it's illegal, and I can think of legislation that's more urgent than changing nudity laws. But more power to folk comfy in their own skin!
96 days ago | Tagged As: depends if its private or public
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