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The reason atheists claim there is no God.

"Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking."   Einstein

Atheists don't think any more because they rely on everybody else to think for them.  Find an atheists that doesn't quote scientific journals or what Google has to say. 

 

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5 points

"Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking." Einstein

His quote perfectly describes Christians reading the Bible. Not your finest quote mining.

Side: True

Neither side exercise their thinking. Look at me, I don't read anything and my brain is fit as a fiddle. I mean, who else can come up with the crap I come up with ;)

Side: True
2 points

Nobody else can even compare to you when it comes to crap.

Side: True
0 points

Neither side exercise their thinking.

Um, yeah, that's not true. Sorry, thanks for playing.

Look at me, I don't read anything and my brain is fit as a fiddle. I mean, who else can come up with the crap I come up with ;)

The only people I can think of would be contributors to uber humor. ;)

Side: True
2 points

I love your definition of Atheist.

Atheist: someone who knows how to read.

Side: True
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

No where did I say that a religious person couldn't read. I just pointed out that atheists continue to look to others for their answers. For once I'd like to see an atheists that has an answer that is their own.

Side: Not False
MuckaMcCaw(1970) Disputed
5 points

I just pointed out that atheists continue to look to others for their answers. For once I'd like to see an atheists that has an answer that is their own.

Says the guy whose primary method of debate is to quote famous people...

Side: True
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Really? Is that so you can tell them they Googled their response? You have seen countless arguments like that.

Side: True
10 points

Atheists don't think any more because they rely on everybody else to think for them. Find an atheists that doesn't quote scientific journals or what Google has to say.

Yeah, those darn Atheists are so dumb for quoting from the massive number of scientific journals and all of Google. They would be much smarter if they picked a single well aged book to quote from.

Side: Not False
7 points

Yes, gosh darn those atheists who read (and write) those masses of undeniable and compelling (and interesting) scientific pieces.

A plague on them all!

Side: Not False
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

Are these your own words or did you Google this also ?

Side: True
Cartman(18192) Disputed
5 points

You know what's funny is how often Christians quote the Bible.

Side: Not False
Jungelson(3959) Disputed
1 point

Face it dude, you lost.

Just like every theist-atheist debate- the theist answers a question to which the atheist answers Annoyed, the theist rephrases his question to suit him, and the atheist still answers. Show me a debate where the atheist is on the defense..!

Side: Not False
1 point

I am annoyed by the two sides you put into the argument. Obviously "not false" means either true or somewhat true, which I don't agree with. I find it extremely ignorant, of what others have to say, of you, to really only include one side of the argument: your own. You'll still know what we have to say since we have freedom of speech, but the small things that ignorant people do are very annoying.

Side: Not False
2 points

Don't let him get to you. All he wants to do is annoy people.

Side: Not False
4 points

True or not false, thats intelectually honest. So, wait, if im not able to describe something perfectly in my own words like, say, quantum mechanics, i shouldnt quote someone who does i should just try to bs my way through it or go practice quantum mechanics in a lab? Also the vast vast vast majority of atheist dont claim there is no god, we just lack belief in one. I find it quite ironic that you dis atheists for being the ones to quote scholarly sources and research actual evidence based things instead of letting one book from 2000 years ago rule our minds in every way.

Side: Not False
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
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True or not false, thats intellectually honest. So, wait, if im not able to describe something perfectly in my own words like, say, quantum mechanics, i shouldnt quote someone who does i should just try to bs my way through it or go practice quantum mechanics in a lab? Also the vast vast vast majority of atheist dont claim there is no god, we just lack belief in one. I find it quite ironic that you dis atheists for being the ones to quote scholarly sources and research actual evidence based things instead of letting one book from 2000 years ago rule our minds in every way.

What one should do is to say they are not well enough informed and have no experience in quantum mechanics to talk intelligently about it and so I re-frame from doing so instead of pretending to know something about quantum mechanics.

There is an old saying that states, "An empty wagon rattles."

Side: True
AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
3 points

Or I could go read up on it and cite my source for the other person to look at too. Sure I'd still be restricted to only layman's discussion of the topic but at least I don't have to abandon conversation. I'm still failing to see where citing sources and researching topics is somehow intellectually dishonest.

Side: Not False
DrawFour(2662) Disputed
2 points

Then why don't Christians do this, instead of citing the bible?

Side: Not False
ghostheadX(1105) Disputed
1 point

No one who REALLY believes in REAL religion believes that a book has to rule you're life. Those people are heretics.

Side: True
AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
1 point

And im sure many of them would say that you cant REALLY believe in REAL religion if it DOESNT rule your life .

Side: Not False
2 points

Funny. When I search "is there a God" on Google I get a lot of christian websites. I suppose they have finally figured out that a computer isn't a ungodly window into hell but rather quite a useful tool.

Side: Not False
ghostheadX(1105) Disputed
1 point

Exactly, I agree with you.

I am only putting this under the "dispute" category because those websites are just as biased as racist websites.

Side: True
2 points

Most atheist wouldn't claim there is no God, that's the first thing.

Second thing, if not having imagination makes you be right, then what's the problem?

And last but not least, I'm an atheist, I don't claim there's not a God, I do NOT believe there is one, I would describe myself and many other atheists I know as very imaginative, I , and most if not all atheist, hate taking what others think as reference without actual reasoning, and in fact the fields of arts, and all that has to do with being creative are the ones that fascinate me the most.

Side: Not False
1 point

What about the atheists that write those scientific journals, or who contribute the answers to Google, for other atheists to use, do they count as people who thought for themselves.

Also you said "The reason atheists claim there is no God" I have to say this is a generalization on atheists, and it's actually not a true thought about atheists as a whole. I'm an atheists, I however don't claim there is no God, I just don't believe him. I'm making no claims.

Side: Not False
1 point

What about the atheists that write those scientific journals, or who contribute the answers to Google, for other atheists to use, do they count as people who thought for themselves.

There is no need to point out flaws with his arguments. He doesn't really read them.

Also you said "The reason atheists claim there is no God" I have to say this is a generalization on atheists, and it's actually not a true thought about atheists as a whole. I'm an atheists, I however don't claim there is no God, I just don't believe him. I'm making no claims.

Yeah, that's the kind of arguments he makes. Get used to it.

Side: Not False
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
2 points

I can read and do so when the material is worth reading. This explains why I often ignore what you write.

Side: True
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

What? An atheist that can write. Next they will be telling everybody that the world isn't flat.

Side: True
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Hahahaha. So who is writing all of the Atheist papers that the other Atheists quote? It is refreshing to see you put zero thought into this debate.

Side: Not False
1 point

In the world every thing has a creator...

We haven't seen ourselves born from our parents.But we believe

because we believe the principle"everything has a creator".it could be a table,a chair or a rocket.Similarly we have also created by someone. And we have named it as GOD,like right brothers the god of airplane invention.

Side: Not False
Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

because we believe the principle"everything has a creator"

No, it is because our parents saw us being born from them. Not because of some principle.

Side: True
Thumperhere(10) Disputed
1 point

Everything has a creator? So the bible says.....

Convenient isn't it... God is the swiss army knife of knowledge. Anything you don't understand, anything good that happens, anything thats wonderful, anything that warms your heart.

The basis of a principle is a fundamental truth or rule. A belief in religion requires a gap between what is supported by evidence and what assumptions the belief relies on.

Whilst I cannot remember my own birth, I can only assume I came from my parents rather than the family cat. Indeed my lineage is based on evidence supporting my suspicion the lady and man that brought me up were indeed my parents, but you never know.

Side: True
1 point

There are simple logical arguments for why pretty much any established religion is bogus nonsense. You don't need all that fancy learnin' and stuff to get to that conclusion.

Case example #1: no witnessed miracles or supernatural events. Still waiting for those random events in nature that breaks all known rules. Basically, if God did ANYTHING then we would be able to observe the breakage of cause and effect as we know it to be.

All the other observable stuff, we collectively put together as part of science. God has no place is the physical sciences, because it literally does no exist. It does exist as part of psychology, though.

Side: Not False
1 point

They don't believe in God so that is proof he is actually real.

Side: Not False
1 point

Actually it's because we were all molested.

Side: Not False
1 point

Yeah because doing extensive research written by people with PhD's in astrophysics and astronomy is not as good of an idea as making up stuff in your head.

Oh wait a second, don't you get your religion from books too? And don't you blindly follow those books written by people who aren't you? And don't you act how those books tell you to act? Oh I get it now. If an Atheist cites documents written by people who have studied that subject for decades, it's useless and silly. But if a Christian cites a book crammed with metaphors and fairy tales, it's understandable and reasonable. Thanks for clearing that up.

Side: Not False
1 point

Back when i was an Atheist (just don't care for labels), I became one from reading the bible and finding problems within it. Plus I wanted to know the devil's side of the story. Since I was coming to my own conclusions on things, there were things I was embarrassingly wrong about and other that were good. I was about 19 years old and at that time I've ever heard of Atheism. So there was no one challenging my beliefs but me.

I use to come up with crazy theories (and I still do) like [the reason babies have a hard time learning how to walk, is because they are not use to the earth's rotation yet. Babies that can stand seem to fall in a way that a kid does after spinning around, maybe the babies mind sees the world spinning like if you were on laughing gas and the room begins to spin.] as you can tell, this was an insane ideal.

Even though you said Atheist, I do agree that people don't think that much, some just use regurgitated information for the sake of being "right" or seeming smarter. Which leads to little to no new ideals on a subject. By the way like how both answer chooses are "True" lol

Side: Not False

So quoting sources that have shown to be accurate and informative, and crediting them with information you have obtained is wrong? I guess learning is bad, and that you should never learn things from other people ever... now don't mind me as I lock myself into a cave and isolate myself from all of humanity so that I can figure everything out on my own...

Side: Not False
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
1 point

So quoting sources that have shown to be accurate and informative, and crediting them with information you have obtained is wrong? I guess learning is bad, and that you should never learn things from other people ever... now don't mind me as I lock myself into a cave and isolate myself from all of humanity so that I can figure everything out on my own...

Saying that the Bible (a collection of 66 books) is just one book isn't good enough but an article in a journal is accurate, nothing like ignoring the facts.

Side: True
zephyr20x6(2387) Disputed
2 points

Saying that the Bible (a collection of 66 books) is just one book isn't good enough but an article in a journal is accurate, nothing like ignoring the facts.

There is a huge difference between citing an ancient text with nothing to back it up but popular opinion... and citing an article backed by scientific study and investigation. The scientific article at least references empirical evidence, the best the bible would have are philosophical arguments which I would be more than willing to evaluate any brought up here.

Side: Not False