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There are women who enjoy and fantacise rape

You can google it.

Neither am i promoting rape, just stating fact and hope some women can be honest as i am.




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I believe it. People "fantasize" about MANY things. That doesn't mean they want it to happen! When I was a kid I fantasized about killing my step father! That didn't mean I would DO it! That doesn't mean anybody has a right to HELP one with their fantasy without their permission ... and they CAN'T give you permission to rape! You CAN'T use a persons "fantasy" as a defense in court!

"Neither am I promoting rape, just stating a "fact" and hope some women can be as honest as I am."

Do you think we are stupid? YOU are "fantasizing", scumbag!

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jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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Do you think we are stupid? YOU are "fantasizing", scumbag!

Lol, These are facts i gathered from websites where people shared their rape experiences and though the world expects everyone to tell how awful and shameful it was(social psychology), some said the opposite, they were very honest and didn't care what others thought of them.

Plus, i have had conversations with two women(19 & 40yrs from Asia) which confirms this.

And again.

I am not promoting rape. Its just facts. Many feminists know this and have been trying their best to subdue books and researchs about it.

Someone provoked me to bring this up

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Dermot(5736) Disputed
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You are a scumbag and it's not suprising considering where you're from .

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1 point

Totally true. A lot of women (and men) dont know what rape looks like. And it can be some kind of fetish too.

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3 points

You're hoping women can be honest as you are ?

But you're a throughly nasty dishonest person as I've proved several times and you also claim to be a Christian, tell me how does your local preacher feel about your latest ' theory ' ?

You're a two faced coward I confronted you about your ridiculous claims and here is your original post about rape which being the coward you are you shamefully attempt to keep hidden

Jefferey said 👉

And i presume you haven't considered the other side, where women rape males.

3Months ago a 17yrs old girl was arrested for raping a boy at knife point. How about that?

Do you suggest she should be put to death too? Or you're reconsidering the punishment due to the gender of of the prey(lol).

Men get raped and they are like Bravo!!

Women get raped and will talk about it for the rest of their lives.......so hysterical and shit..... Creating organisations and shit instead of moving on after month like a male rape victim will....

And i just don't get it.

Infact there are a few women who enjoy rape though.

it's all about your psychology and the strength of your mind.

Men's Gift.

Neither am i saying rape is cool or should be tolerated though.

As much as i believe very abusive(beating victim also) or to whatever extent should punished, i also recommend women to get over it.

They should waste their life agonising over "common rape"(forceful(without consent or mutual agreement) sex, the only diff.is forceful......cos its still 'sex').

You don't live forever....your so held in high esteem body will one day rot, your story will fade.....

I speak harshly and point blank.......

but am not wrong ...right?

I only will be concerned about a child(usually homeless or vulnerable) who is a rape victim not adult adult rape.

4 days ago 👈

So you post a site for male empowerment where some nut job agrees with your assessment and a story by some anonymous wanker and that's it ?

Why do you bitch about clinics and centres for victims of rape ?

You truly are a nasty fuck bet you would whistle a different tune if your mother , sister or girlfriend was brutally raped or would you give them a month to get over it as they don't have ' mans gift '?

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I think those who fantasize of rape, don't really know or understand what it is. They are thinking of some stupid romantic version of it instead of the utter agony, humiliation, physical trauma and mental trauma.

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jeffreyone(1383) Disputed
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What about those who have actually experienced it and the only regrets they have is enjoying it (and also not reporting the rapist )instead of feeling sad and ashamed as society tells or expect them to.

Shame is defined by society which also gave birth to the traumatizing effects in the minds of victims.......

Shame is in the head and a society product.

You do realise shameless people are those who careless what society's opinions are and just go ahead to do whatever they feel like.

Society has forced certain emotions and shames unto people.

When you get raped, you must(obligatory) feel ashamed.

It has became part and parcel of us as we see it in movies, hear talks, laws and it has become an auto mentality or psychology where you no more need someone to tell you to feel ashamed after being raped, you will just start crying by yourself(mind) and the 'trauma' of reflections etc...

I swear to you, not saying the society should but had this same society maybe in the 12th century said getting raped is an honour, these same traumatised people will feel honoured they were raped.

Ex.is Gay. Sometime ago, gay according to the society was a very shameful thing but now look, this same society says there is no shame in being gay(which i strongly disagree with~gay is like sickle cell)

and gays are so proud...i see gay being promoted in movies etc.

SOCIETY. Socialisation.

There is no shame for a rape victim but the rapist. The trauma comes as a result of what the victim thinks society thinks of her(usually....cos most men are careless....zero trauma) and therefore exaggerate the whole thing in their minds to the extent where some even commit suicide(the women.....very weak minded and lack self definition but takes whatever the society of her childhood to old age says is the definition)

Society i remind you is just ordinary individuals. And most of these individuals are insecure people who lack self definition and are always waiting for what the majority or confident to tell them what to think of themselves or a situation.

Those who are self defined and confident are few and are looked up on. These people usually form organisations and manipulate their cynical or clean, secret or obvious goals through the weak ones(note: most organistions have intelligent leaders and idiotic or insecure or people with low self esteem as followers)......

Feminist orgs., Religions....all their followers want to feel secure and have a sense of belonging. They give birth and train their children to follow the trend and it spreads like a epidemic, if you do not move like those zombies, you are odd must get your blood sucked.

I can almost swear that more than 90% of gay agenda supporters are complete idiots but i bet the leaders are very intelligent.

There is no better voice to oppose a wise and intelligent one than an idiotic one , It is very difficult for wisdom to escape the snares of a fool( The greatest challenge of wisdom).

Back to rape.

So if you get raped and you don't show signs of shame, you are odd and must be questioned.

So it has become a general way of thinking..you don't need anyone to tell you anymore(not even yourself)…… the moment you get raped, your brain goes auto message(order) for tears. You don't need to squeeze even a drop of tear, leave it to your mind, it will cry it all for you because of the defintion it has taken upon itself and therefore know what the occasion demands.

Men are hardly controlled 100% by what society thinks of their actions and so men will confidently say they enjoyed being raped, But most women are still under the spell and manipulations of society......only a few think for themselves. A different generation is coming up and will set their own rules. They will embrace their animalist nature and will not lie for society. Gay has began.

Have you heard of free the nipple? I thought women were supposed to be ashamed of being naked.....

Shame will die, people will be more like animals of instincts driven, no scruples or morality where you will finally hear it for yourself women publicly admitting they enjoy rape.The won't give a fuck about the feminist organisations.

In the olden days, there are myths about women who paid money to be raped(not gentle)by a strong smelly gigantic man in a secret dark room.

By the way am not promoting rape...its just fact.

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jeffreyone(1383) Disputed
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What about those who have actually experienced it and the only regrets they have is enjoying it (and also not reporting the rapist )instead of feeling sad and ashamed as society tells or expect them to.

Shame is defined by society which also gave birth to the traumatizing effects in the minds of victims.......

Shame is in the head and a society product.

You do realise shameless people are those who careless what society's opinions are and just go ahead to do whatever they feel like.

Society has forced certain emotions and shames unto people.

When you get raped, you must(obligatory) feel ashamed.

It has became part and parcel of us as we see it in movies, hear talks, laws and it has become an auto mentality or psychology where you no more need someone to tell you to feel ashamed after being raped, you will just start crying by yourself(mind) and the 'trauma' of reflections etc...

I swear to you, not saying the society should but had this same society maybe in the 12th century said getting raped is an honour, these same traumatised people will feel honoured they were raped.

Ex.is Gay. Sometime ago, gay according to the society was a very shameful thing but now look, this same society says there is no shame in being gay(which i strongly disagree with~gay is like sickle cell)

and gays are so proud...i see gay being promoted in movies etc.

SOCIETY. Socialisation.

There is no shame for a rape victim but the rapist. The trauma comes as a result of what the victim thinks society thinks of her(usually....cos most men are careless....zero trauma) and therefore exaggerate the whole thing in their minds to the extent where some even commit suicide(the women.....very weak minded and lack self definition but takes whatever the society of her childhood to old age says is the definition)

Society i remind you is just ordinary individuals. And most of these individuals are insecure people who lack self definition and are always waiting for what the majority or confident to tell them what to think of themselves or a situation.

Those who are self defined and confident are few and are looked up on. These people usually form organisations and manipulate their cynical or clean, secret or obvious goals through the weak ones(note: most organistions have intelligent leaders and idiotic or insecure or people with low self esteem as followers)......

Feminist orgs., Religions....all their followers want to feel secure and have a sense of belonging. They give birth and train their children to follow the trend and it spreads like a epidemic, if you do not move like those zombies, you are odd must get your blood sucked.

I can almost swear that more than 90% of gay agenda supporters are complete idiots but i bet the leaders are very intelligent.

There is no better voice to oppose a wise and intelligent one than an idiotic one , It is very difficult for wisdom to escape the snares of a fool( The greatest challenge of wisdom).

Back to rape.

So if you get raped and you don't show signs of shame, you are odd and must be questioned.

So it has become a general way of thinking..you don't need anyone to tell you anymore(not even yourself)…… the moment you get raped, your brain goes auto message(order) for tears. You don't need to squeeze even a drop of tear, leave it to your mind, it will cry it all for you because of the defintion it has taken upon itself and therefore know what the occasion demands.

Men are hardly controlled 100% by what society thinks of their actions and so men will confidently say they enjoyed being raped, But most women are still under the spell and manipulations of society......only a few think for themselves. A different generation is coming up and will set their own rules. They will embrace their animalist nature and will not lie for society. Gay has began.

Have you heard of free the nipple? I thought women were supposed to be ashamed of being naked.....

Shame will die, people will be more like animals of instincts driven, no scruples or morality where you will finally hear it for yourself women publicly admitting they enjoy rape.The won't give a fuck about the feminist organisations.

In the olden days, there are myths about women who paid money to be raped(not gentle)by a strong smelly gigantic man in a secret dark room.

By the way am not promoting rape...its just fact.

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That's ridiculous. The very definition of the word "rape" signifies that the act is unwanted.

Some people are into more physical sex (punching, slapping, etc.), and that's a whole different thing. But the idea that there are women who "fantasize" about being raped is absolutely absurd.

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jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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"But the idea that there are women who "fantasize" about being raped is absolutely absurd."

like you said "the idea".

you're free to investgate.

Have you heard of xenomelia?/apotemnophilia?

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JaceCarsonne(93) Clarified
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Yes, in fact. However, neither of those monothematic delusions entail a desire to be a sexual victim.

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