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Has the intelligence of an ant Makes sense to me
Debate Score:25
Arguments:20
Total Votes:25
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This creationist argument...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ASzDDOaLyk

 

My opinion is that is extremely stupid- but if anyone can say how it makes sense...

Has the intelligence of an ant

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Makes sense to me

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Comparing that argument to the intelligence of an ant is insulting to ants.

Side: Has the intelligence of an ant
1 point

Are you kidding me??? I wanted to say that!

But seriously... it really is.

Side: Has the intelligence of an ant
4 points

First, there is no oxygen in the jar- and many preservatives to prevent any bacterial growth.

Second, the key ingredient of a few billion years is also omitted.

Third, how does he know? If it is bacterial, he won't see it- he didn't even look! I'd compare that to opening the door of a manor house, glancing in- then saying "Nope, no one's there."

Side: Has the intelligence of an ant
SovietSpy(709) Disputed
2 points

Okay first of all I am not entirely disputing you because all I want is the point, second some creationists have a very, very small points. How can life just form from biological-supporting soup. I am not saying oh Jesus is the way but I am saying that life just doesn't come out of a thin air. There may be a God up there but who says he is Jesus, Allah, or a Hindu god. I guess we will have to wait to find out.

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Elvira(3446) Clarified
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Chance. As in the chance that the gravel at the bottom of the river is arranged in the way it is arranged in the way it is, that a stone lies in that exact position in that exact place when thrown.

Side: Has the intelligence of an ant
1 point

The people in the video clearly have no understanding of evolution. Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life and also no scientist says that life could start that way...

Side: Has the intelligence of an ant
ricedaragh(2494) Disputed
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I beg to differ, just because Darwin made no salient comment about the origins of life, does not mean that his mechanism can't be used to explain it.

Simply put, life did not just arise spontaneously out of somewhere. It couldn't have been life from non-life, just like that, the very same selection pressure that drives evolution today and since the dawn of time would if we are to be rational about it have guided the formation of replicators such as cRNA which uses only four of the nitrogenous bases that make up genetic material.

It is the lucky ones that used the strongest bonding combinations and the ones that probably found themselves at the distinct advantage of being encased in a liposome of some sort and so on.

Side: Makes sense to me

I'm gobsmacked at the complexity of this Idea, I'd never thought of it that way.

These scientists, why have they never opened peanut butter and looked inside? I bet they're worried now.

Side: Makes sense to me