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Debate Score:86
Arguments:80
Total Votes:90
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To Christians: Homosexuality a sin?

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i corinthians 6:8-12

Yes

Side Score: 41
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No

Side Score: 45
1 point

It is a sin but sinning can be sexy.

Side: Yes

Yes it is, it is not a sin when you are gay, but stay away from temtations. It is a sin to think like that and be like that though.

Side: Yes
Cartman(18192) Disputed
6 points

There is the problem. How come homosexuals are not allowed to give in to the SAME EXACT desires, but heterosexuals are? It doesn't make sense.

Side: No
Jacobcoolguy(2433) Clarified
1 point

It is sin for heterosexuals to have sex/ look on a woman lustfully before marriage. After marriage you are free to do so, but for homosexuality it's a sin no mater what.

Side: Yes
1 point

Well said. Bottom line is, God hates poofs.....

Side: No
1 point

The Bible states it clear that its a sin.

Side: Yes
Aunvre(10) Disputed
3 points

Guess what? The bible also says that:

- If you look at porn or anything "blasphemous" you have to cut out your eye (Matthew 5:29)

- ALL atheists will go to hell, no matter how good they are as people (Mark 16:16)

- Women cannot think for themselves (1 Corinthians 7:4)

- Women can't teach (Timothy 2:11)

- Losing virginity before marriage is punishable by death (Deuteronomy 22:20), as well as gathering wood on sabbath day (Numbers 15:32-36), and "blaspheming the Lord" (Leviticus 24:15)

Yeah... I'm pretty sure I'm gonna take what the bible says with just a hint of salt, thank you...

Side: No
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
2 points

I'd like to address these verses that you have brought forth. I hope that you may read and understand the true meaning of grace, through the movement of the Holy Spirit by His Word.

1) This verse is not literal. It is a metaphor for standing out of the way of temptation; for sin comes from the heart, one's inner being, which no man can be stripped of by his own volition. Moreover, its about reforming yourself so that you do not sin--pluck out your weaknesses and inclinations to sin. Furthermore, if it is literal, then Hebrews 12:4 takes care of that: "In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood." This means that this is an extension of God's seriousness towards sin, even though He understands that people will not go to extreme lengths to fight it.

2) No one, but God, is good. It doesn't matter how much one tries to be good, no one will be good, for even our greatest deeds are like dirty rags when examined parallel to God's righteousness. One must be perfectly flawless in order to go to heaven; Christ died so that the one's, whom He has chosen to believe, may be with Him in paradise. Thus, it is by grace the inheritance of the kingdom of heaven comes. This is why we are told that Christians are adopted sons and daughters into the heavenly family, for we do not choose to be with God, He chooses us.

3) 1 Corinthians 7 is about marriage and the pursuit of a holy life. Because the power of sin is great, God tells husbands and wives to give themselves to their spouses so that no temptations may take root within their hearts. This is what this verse is about.

4) If one looks at the rest of the book of 1 Timothy, one will find that it is an "instruction manual" for how to run the church. It gives strict guidelines for who can be named the leaders within the church. This is a common theme throughout the Bible: certain people have been given unique and characteristic spiritual gifts so that we may serve as many as possible, including one another. This is simply an expression of whom God has called to lead the church. Moreover, if one believe in the doctrine of predestination and election, then one believes in God having called certain peoples for certain tasks.

5) Christians are not to follow the civic laws of the Old Testament. Because many Old Testament Scriptures were guides for how a country should be run, then, because we (Christians) do not have a specific landed/geographical nation, we do not follow these laws. These laws are laws like our own contemporary and modern constitutional laws, such as being sentenced to prison for theft. Moreover, the things that you have mentioned are sins; sins deserve punishment; therefore, to have a law for punishing sin is, in fact, a very holy and righteous thing.

The Bible is a wonderful book of love and grace. It is a story of God glory. I hope that you, after having read this response, may become moved by the Spirit and soon follow Christ as a brother and friend. If you have any further questions, then you are welcome to ask.

Side: Yes
Sitara(11088) Disputed
2 points

Women cannot teach MEN, but they can teach women and children, women can prophecy.

Side: Yes
Srom(12201) Disputed
2 points

Well your a non-believer I assume, yes? Did you even read what the verse's mean or look at in context? That's what a lot of people do they attack the Bible and yet not look at the verses in context to what it says.

If you look at porn or anything "blasphemous" you have to cut out your eye (Matthew 5:29)

That verse says that its better if one part of the body is lost then the whole body be tossed into hell. He doesn't literally say to cut your eye out.

ALL atheists will go to hell, no matter how good they are as people (Mark 16:16)

That is correct but if they want to get into heaven then they can by repenting and accepting Jesus into their life and its their choice to believe.

Women cannot think for themselves (1 Corinthians 7:4)

That verse is saying that men have authority over women because its just like Christ is the head of the church. They can still think for themselves but they are the head ruler of the house.

Women can't teach (Timothy 2:11)

The verse you are looking for is actually verse 12. And that's correct because its a man's job to preach.

Losing virginity before marriage is punishable by death (Deuteronomy 22:20), as well as gathering wood on sabbath day (Numbers 15:32-36), and "blaspheming the Lord" (Leviticus 24:15

Well if you look at that verse that was back and it was wrote for the Jewish people. But Christians don't kill people over those things.

Side: Yes
Sitara(11088) Disputed
1 point

It is not a sin to be tempted, but it is a sin to act on it. .

Side: No
Warjin(1577) Clarified
1 point

And it also states that having sex before marriage is also a sin, among many other things.

So if no sin is greater then the next "like it says", and if all this crazy talk is true (religious books) then I guess every man women and child will be in hell.

This isn't a buffet, people don't get to pick what is a sin and what isn't, see this is what pisses me off about religious people they love to pick and choose.

If you ever worked on a Sunday or ate pork, shellfish ect.ect.ect. then you are no better then the person you call faggot.

This is why it's all bullshit, I really wish people just saw religion for what it really is, "nothing", nothing at all, just some bullshit, we should be working towards bettering themselves and our earthly community instead of bickering over dumb shit like who likes the same sex.

Side: Yes
Srom(12201) Disputed
0 points

And it also states that having sex before marriage is also a sin, among many other things.

Yes that is considered a sin.

So if no sin is greater then the next "like it says", and if all this crazy talk is true (religious books) then I guess every man women and child will be in hell.

You have to look at the obvious there only can be 1 correct belief system and if 1 is correct then the rest contradict all other beliefs and the other beliefs are wrong.

This isn't a buffet, people don't get to pick what is a sin and what isn't, see this is what pisses me off about religious people they love to pick and choose

Actually we don't pick and choose. Its all based on what our beliefs say about the certain sins. The Bible makes it clear for Christians.

If you ever worked on a Sunday or ate pork, shellfish ect.ect.ect. then you are no better then the person you call faggot.

The only seafood I eat is salmon and that's about it but I don't eat all of those other seafood like sushi, shellfish, shrimp and others. I don't eat pork on a regular basis because I found out that pigs are just animals that eat garbage and in their immune system they can handle toxins of a snake and the toxins in the garbage and that might be transferred to the food or make people sick.

This is why it's all bullshit, I really wish people just saw religion for what it really is, "nothing", nothing at all, just some bullshit, we should be working towards bettering themselves and our earthly community instead of bickering over dumb shit like who likes the same sex.

I really wish people would actually see what Christianity has done and not just focus on the negative stuff. If people would just give Christianity a chance maybe things would a lot better in this world. Well what Jesus said was true us Christians will be hated because the comment you just were saying about how Christianity is all bullcrap that proves that what Christ said was true about us Christians.

Side: No
Warjin(1577) Disputed
1 point

According to the bible yes, this just goes to show how much bullshit is in that book.

Side: Yes
Srom(12201) Disputed
1 point

What do you mean by mixed linens? What materials to be specific?

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, it clearly states in the bible, that Homosexuality is a sin. For it is God's word, and we must not go against it.

Side: Yes
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
1 point

No the Bible is mans interpretation of Gods word God did not write it and can you prove that over the years no alterations have been made and no mistakes when translating from its original language?

Side: No
1 point

As written in the Bible all homosexuals must be violently stoned to death in order for the country to flourish.

GO AMERICA

Side: Yes
1 point

The Bible only condemns those who practice homosexuality. Simply having desires for something does not make one sinful; it is only when one actively and strongly meditates upon a sinful act and desires for it to be a reality that it becomes a sin of the heart. Homosexuality is not a sin just as heterosexuality is not a sin: they can both be taken there, should the person's heart become filled with darkness.

Side: No
Facadeon(510) Disputed
2 points

But as Cartman said "How come homosexuals are not allowed to give in to the SAME EXACT desires, but heterosexuals are? It doesn't make sense."

Side: Yes
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

Neither are heterosexuals. The only way anyone can have sexual relations is through marriage, which is how God intended it to be, which is good and holy. Moreover, that question is an illogical one, for everything has it's purpose and certain things are not allowed; it raises more questions about allowing immorality than stopping it, for all actions come from desire. For example, if I have the desire to murder, then, according to this logic, I should be allowed to murder, simply under the premise of my inclination to want something. However, you might be tempted to say that it is no way the same as comparing homosexuality and heterosexuality. Well, then one must include pedophilia and bestiality and incest.

Side: No
1 point

Leviticus 18:22

"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." (NLT)

There are many parts of the bible, that directly say that Homosexuality is a sin to practice. Married or not, it is a sin.

Side: Yes
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

Where did I say that practicing homosexuality is not a sin? I directly stated that it was. Homosexuality, though, is not a sin.

Side: No

I'm not Christian but I had to speak up about this.

Apparently if you can take bits and pieces from the bible and twist them to your own desires, as homophobes have, working is a sin.

"No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money" Matthew 6:24

I want to bend that 'serving two masters' part to say I can only serve God, therefore woking is a sin.

Side: No
Quocalimar(6470) Clarified
1 point

What do you know, I found a contradiction.

"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord."Ephesians 5:22

Ignoring the sexism there, how is one supposed to serve only the lord, but their husband as they would the lord?

Side: Yes
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

Different contexts.

Side: Yes
1 point

To some close minded bigoted Christians Homosexuality is a sin but this is unchristian in itself as you are judging someone else which is against the teachings of Jesus. The thing about the Bible is it should be read in context a lot of people will take a verse out of context and use it to condemn people when read in context a lot of these verses condemning homosexuality are in fact not.

Side: No
1 point

No, its like other sin. Do not judge, but know it is sin and is wrong. Some sins are worse then others.

Side: Yes
TheAshman(2299) Disputed
1 point

No its not but wearing mixed fibres and working on a Sunday is but I have yet to see anyone condemning that and those two sins are a lot more prolific than homosexuality

Side: No

As long as the homosexual couple gets to connect with each other on the personal level before they get physical, I don't see it as a sin.

Side: No

But hate is. Bigotry has to stop. Homosexuality cannot be a sin just like heterosexuality cannot be a sin.

Side: No