To all "Pro choice" people, would you afford the same denials to Pro choice Germans?
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You're still operating on an assumption that those who are 'pro choice' agree with you that life begins at conception and simply ignore that fact. It's simply not true. The fundamental disagreement is not on whether or not we should try to protect human life, it's about a definition of human life. And since it's not obvious, it is more important to those who are 'pro choice' to protect the agency of women. They're morally sound. 1
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It is absolutely 100% obvious that it is a human life to any moral person not brainwashed by the Left, and not living life according to their their own selfish conveinence. We all know how hard it would be to find yourself pregnant (from your own conscious choice), when not wanting to have a baby. (spare me your one in a million rape pregnancy excuse) We have all experienced things in life where it would be so much easier to take the easy way out at the expense of others. There is this thing called personal responsibility for one's own choices in life. Taking a baby's life for sake of conveinence is the ultimate lack of taking responsibility for one's choices. Today's culture says it is not your fault no matter what problems you created for yourself. They say don't worry, tax payers will bail you out no matter how many times you live irresponsibly. We are seeing the harm of that no fault ideology to millions of kids in broken homes with no fathers or mothers. 2
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It is absolutely 100% obvious that it is a human life to any moral person not brainwashed by the Left, and not living life according to their their own selfish conveinence. Then can you please explain to me why? Because it truly isn't obvious to me, but if it is, then can you please explain to me why? Why is it different from sperm and egg cells? I'll flat out say it I'm pro-choice all the way until birth on the issue of abortion. I believe that every American citizen has a right to life liberty and happiness. Now most pro-life people would say I am denying the unborn it's right to life. I argue that a person becomes a American citizen by A: being born in America. or B: going through the proper legal channels of immigration. seeing as the unborn has done none of these I believe the child is not a citizen thus does not have the right to life. I also do not consider the unborn fetus to be a human life until said fetus is no longer connected to the mother. Until the fetus is living on its own and note I said living on its own not capable of living on its own it is still a part of the mother. The mother should be able to choose what she does with her body. Abortion doesn't kill a human it stops the potential for a new human. 1
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You have no clue what you are supporting! I would love for you to be in the hospital when that viable baby is torn apart in front of your eyes. I want you to look yourself in the mirror and tell yourself how that baby is any different a few days from traveling down that birth canal. Ask yourself how you would feel watching that baby after birth being torn limb from limb. CAN YOU EVEN GRASP WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED TO ACCEPT BY THE LEFT? You are no different then Muslim children being raised in a terrorist household. Their entire childhood years being told how the infedels do not deserve the right to life. They actually are taught to be supporters of killing innocent mothers and children. You also have been brinwashed from birth by the Left wing media and pro choice parents to believe that unborn children have no rights and do not deserve the right to life. You have swallowed it like a good little Pro choicers. You are living proof to the barbarism that a culture can teach to it's people. No different than the culture that said slavery was ok. People believed it then, and fools believe it is ok to kill even viable babies today. I wonder when the Democrat Party will once again go down in history as the inhuman party once supporting slavery and now supporting infanticide. Killing that viable living baby days from birth is no different from infanticide. It is completely formed and living on the food from its mother, just as babies live on the milk from the mother after birth! So you are saying since the baby is feeding from an umbilical cord instead of breast feeding, this somehow makes it a less than human? Can you grasp how ludicrous you sound? These would be the same moronic excuses from Nazi's telling us why Jews do not deserve to live. You are doing what dictators have done for centuries. Excuse your killing with mindless rhetoric. Newsflash, there is not a born baby alive today capable of living on it's own. They must be fed for years before being capable of feeding themselves. Being a libertarian I am often in the minority of my groups when it comes to the issue of abortion. Although I have not seen these procedures done right in front of me I've had graphs and videos and detailed visuals of the abortion process thrown at me. I do understand that the pro-life arguement is that we are killing a human but I simply disagree I don't see the unborn as a human and pherhaps there is some cruel aspects to such a outlook but no the less it is my own. But don't claim to know who my parents are my parents are both deep in the heart of Texas conservative baptist. For the record regarding your little tirade on the Democratic Party I voted for Donald Trump in the general election. Now I do believe that a child feeding from a umbilical cord is completely different from a child breast feeding seeing as the child is not connected to the mother. I would contest that you have been brainwashed into the idea that all those who have a different opinion on this issue are inherently evil. I support my claim simply by referring to your constant equating the pro-choice community to that of Nazi Germany or the early slave traders. 2
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First let me say that abortion is a religious issue and NOT a government issue. Secondly, my definition of the beginning of life is when the fetus is developed enough that is can survive outside the womb. Until that time its a parasite. So therefore your attempt to compare abortion to what the German people did, is a moot point because its not the same thing. 1
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First of all abortion is not a religious issue, no more than killing a 5 year old is a religious issue. Just because some selfish inhuman people declare tht an unborn baby is not a human life, MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. To any doctor, or scientist, or person with an ounce of humanity, we all know it is a human life inside the mother's womb. What kind of fool does it take to say that baby is any less human than after it travels down the birth canal. What you call a parasite might better describe monsters who would sacrifice our young for sake of convienence. 1
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What makes us human is our ability to reason and a fetus does not have the ability to reason. You fail to understand that not all life is good. Most of the people who get abortions do so because they don't have any love for that fetus, which translates to they do not love that life that would be produced. If you know anything about children that come from atmospheres where they are not loved you would realize that the majority of these people will be sociopaths, mentally ill, or chemically dependent. Nonexistence is better than pain and suffering 1
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Here is politics 101 since you really don't understand the abortion issue as it relates to politics. The GOP and the Democratic parties chose controversial topics and oppose the other on the issue in order to get votes. Neither party will ever put forth legislation to outlaw first trimester abortions. It is a necessary evil of our society. They sometimes will posture with some late term abortion restrictions to make it seem as if they are doing something. 1
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The GOP would be stopping many more abortions were it not for the Democrats demonizing them as hating women every time they try. They tried a 20 week compromise(with extreme case exceptions) to protect even viable babies and the sick Democrat party would not even do that. Democrats are tied to feminists and the pro abortion lobby for money! Trump already stoped tax payer dollars going overseas for abortions. The GOP is a thousand times better tryng to protect our innocent lives. It took the GOP to stop partial birth abortions. Democrats have no respect for any unborn baby right up till birth. 1
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What a hypocrite. You know what I would do if I were in Nazi Germany I WOULD FREE TO JEWS!!! At whatever cost. What do you do? Sit here typing your dribble to an audience of maybe 50 people. GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING!! If you really believed that people were being murdered you'd be blowing up abortion clinics; you'd be using whatever means possible to save those lives!! But you don't. What sort of human being are you??? Yeah yeah give yourself a bit of a tug and say what a big keyboard warrior you are and how you are saving the planet by merely not voting Democrats. 1
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So you want me to become a terrorist and break the law by blowing up abortion clinics? One thing I know for sure is that people blowing up clinics would hurt the pro life movement. Democrats have made it legal to kill even viable unborn babies. That law needs to be changed and Trump is the first step to making that happen with Constitutionalist Justices. I'm on this site trying to get people to see the inhumanity of killing innocent unborn life. That compared to when this world killed Jews, Blacks, and now Babies. I realize that most Liberals have no concept of moral values because they believe in man rather than God. Man has proven throughout the ages to be selfish and live for personal pleasure at the expense of others. I have said many times that if Democrats told their party they would not vote for them until they stopped pandering to feminist pro abortion lobbies, and to start giving some respect to those millions of unborn babies, abortions would be severely cut down in a matter of a couple years. Bombs are not the answer as most terrorists find out. Your vote is what matters, and when a nation have been brainwashed by the Left, or the nazi's, to have no compassion for even viable unborn babies, or Jews, it will take pro life people like myself to spread the word of the barbaric animals they are. Who knows, we might someday end up with another civil war in this nation, but this time it will be fought over the lives of Babies rather than slaves. The war would not just be about abortion. It would also be about the extremism of the Left and their political correct mandates on everyone, and our loss of freedoms from big government control. Until there are enough people to take a real stand against Democrats, terrorist bombings would never be the answer. Who knows, maye Trump is the first step. He's like no politician we've ever had. You are totally daft, mate. I laughed meself so hard reading your silly assed post I nearly shat meself! Bloody good job, that is if you were trying to have us on and be funny. But if you're serious you're a wanker. Comparing legalized pro choice abortion to the Nazi holocost? You proved Godwin's Law, though! Jolly good job, that. Are your brains really in your arse as they seem to be, or are you taking a piss? I 'ave trouble believing anybody is really this stupid. Cheers! 1
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