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Top shrink: Leftists are mentally ill

Just when liberal-leftists thought it was finally "their time" to lead center-right America, kicking and screaming, into a stifling socialist "utopia," a veteran psychiatrist is making a powerful case that the "hope-and-change" ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

For more than 40 years, Rossiter has diagnosed and treated over 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases, both state and federal, as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist retained by numerous public offices, courts and private attorneys. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter explains with great clarity why the kind of liberalism being displayed by Barack Obama can only be understood as a psychological disorder.

 

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Rossiter. "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity - as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population - as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which overregulates and overtaxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state - as liberals do."

Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

  • creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
  • satisfying infantile claims to

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If you look at when the idea of Socialism came about, it happened among intellectuals who consumed opium, absinthe, and yes alcohol (which is why some countries ban alco sales on election day), this in turn enlightened them, or "turned them on" to this new idea, since it was different from the current political systems in europe of feudalism & monarchies, while not going as far as trusting the population to a democracy.

Karl Marx was an atheist of Jewish origin, so was outside the mainstream Christian population, so in that sense how it developed wasn't all wrong (alternative to primitive capitalism by heredity), but today, in it's fridge element form, it probably is a mental illness. Maybe that part of the brain which rationalizes things is damaged somewhat by drug use, or they had a bad childhood and can't trust anyone (democracy) which may also help explain conspiracy theories.

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"The roots of liberalism - and its associated madness - can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."

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dacey(1040) Disputed
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Maybe, just maybe, this shrink, is in need of a shrink....:)

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Actually, as the Brits would say, he is spot on :)

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I think there are many liberals who need a liberal dose of reason and maturity. (I am not excluding members of other parties.) Furthermore, I think that as the aging liberal and conservative electorates near death, they are being replaced by younger and dumber members. And as this process continues we shall bare witness to an ever-increasing promotion of stupidity and mental illness that is manifested in both the Congress and the White House of the United States.

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What is it to be sane ?

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Exactly!.............................................................................................................. :)

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It's kinda frustrating. Like when you get connected to India for tech support. ;)

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Exactly.............................................................................................................;)

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Liberals today are much better than the greedy and corrupted Conservatives of the Bush Administration. In those eight years, America lost its budget surplus and its standing as a respectful nation due to the Conservatives "mental illness" in attacking innocent countries and laissez-faire market place. Today, Liberals are trying to restore America in the eyes of the World as a humble and peace-oriented nation that will help those in need, not simply out of lust for money.

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You can say what ever your delusional mind conjures up, but we have a a board-certified clinical psychiatrist, who received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago, on our side. You've got nothing ;)

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As you whine about imaginary victims, rage against imaginary villains and seek above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of your liberal mind becomes painfully obvious. ;)

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gee if i was a horrible ..i mean a horrible person then id' gather a few people and show you the dif between imaginary and reality...but im not a horrible person ...sorry if you dont understand what im saying...I dont talk sheep,but i will try.BAAA BAA BAAA BAA...im sorry there is no way to translate this, so i dont know if i said it right but i guess sheperds will help the sheep to understand,seeing you all follow suit,but is the sheperd really herding his sheep to greener fields or is he just confining them to graze in his own paddock?.............................:)notice no wink.

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There's a pretty simple answer to this that doesn't even involve a detailed rebuttal.

If there's an ounce of credibility to Rossiter's claims, why did he choose not to subject his book to the rigors of peer review before it was published? If any part of this book is objectively credible, why isn't it being submitted to any medical journals?

Simple answer: it's nonsensical partisan garbage. It may be entertaining in the political sphere, but medically, it's laughable.

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Here's proof that Rossiter's claims are spot on....

After creating this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_49leBw&feature;=topvideos

the liberals wanted to expand the program. Now, if that ins't a mental disorder, I don't know what is. ;)

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Yes, yes, that's nice and all. Detroit sucks. The American car business is in the crapper for a lot of reasons, unions not being the least of those. But how does that have anything to do with the questions I asked you? The guy in that video was a lot of things, but he certainly wasn't a medical professional, nor did he even claim to be.

Edit: Downvote for not addressing the post.

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This guy makes some interesting points. As an aspiring clinical psychologist myself, I can see where he's coming from, and I think it's very amusing, but unfortunately inaccurate.

The crux of his argument seems to be that liberal policies are based on irrational beliefs. This may be true, but it needs showing rather than just telling. Of course Liberal policies are going to look irrational to a conservative, just as the reverse also holds true.

Liberals and Conservatives hold to different worldviews, political philosophies, and moral codes. I think this psychiatrist needs to put some effort into showing why Liberal values are objectively irrational.

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Well..., here's an example of liberalism policies that were implemented and after seeing the results, they wanted to extend the program. Now..., you tell me, if that's not delusional, I don't know what is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_49leBw&feature;=topvideos

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