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Trannies In The Military Pushed Forward By The IDIOT AN CHIEF
WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter on Thursday removed one of the final barriers to military service by lifting the Pentagon’s ban on transgender people serving openly in the armed forces.
“Effective immediately, transgender Americans may serve openly,” Mr. Carter said. “They can no longer be discharged or otherwise separated from the military just for being transgender.”
Is the above what the U.S. Military wants on the Front Lines of War ? How will the above make it through Basic Training ? Will they have time to dress before they go into war ?
It's simple if anybody in the LGBTQ community wants to go in the army then let them. If they can't get through basic training because of "makeup" issues then I'm surprised they still want to be in the army. The army is about nationalism it's a lot more than shooting guns as most people believe. They do a lot more than shoot guns, that is a narrow minded view of this huge force.
What exactly does gun control have to do with a guy who would date a guy going to war?
It also shows a lot of people who go to war are against war. Why?
If I killed 50 people who are just like you, with a gun that I can get easier than Heroin. And then the person did it because he hated gays, and a lot of people who are pushing guns, want to take away gays rights.
You'll be more apt to take them away.
And there are groups that have been trying to train people in the LGBT community on how to use guns, and these groups have gained in popularity.
And did you know that Marxism doesn't believe in control. And True communism doesn't either, And the left wing is usually communist, given communism advocates for gay rights.
And the progressives don't just want to disarm the people. They want to Disarm the government. Given that progressives are against war and see the military as not an invasion force, but a defensive group.
you do understand that there are regulations in the military regardless if you are a woman or man.
Usually with women makeup is reserved for work on the base (and your work on base is usually like a normal job)
and such. Jewelry is kept to a minimum but some is allowed.
But the real difference is I can say "yes I identify as a woman" and they wont instantly cast me out.
That's like saying women shouldn't be in for there looks. If you have a masculine looking woman, they'll accept her.
Basic training is meant to weed out those who aren't fit for duty. And if transgender people cant make it threw the physical and emotional strength tests that it puts you threw, then you'll get recycled and if they cant do it again, you are denied. And that goes for EVERYONE.
I could be identify as a woman and serve I just cant talk about. But now they'll allow to serve as Trans. And wont deny for a simple status.
If you follow the rules and are willing to fight and die. You should serve regardless. Not allowing someone to do so, based on me being trans/a woman/ or gay means you have no real reason too.
would you allow a black woman to fight? Of course you would. These other things are no different.
"Progressivism is a philosophy based on the idea of progress, which asserts that advancement in science, technology, economic development, and social organization are vital to improve the human condition"
"Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality"
LGBTQ means "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, and queer (or questioning)."
Well if they aren't then they wont sign up. Right? So why not allow them too? Then that small amount that enlist will be a benefit to the militarys man power.
The military will put you where you should be. If you trust in the military then allow them in. They will handle them, and break them if they are weak. Then they'll be strong and trans.
No real bad thing bro. And in the military they would have a sense of nationalism and see that Guns are a good thing.
Military also teaches you, its not "are you worthy of the military?" its "are you willing to be broken down by the military and rebuilt into a fighter?" and if you can do that regardless of what status you have, Then you deserve to fight.
Military shouldn't discriminate based on groups, but personal resolve, willpower, and bravery. And the rest they train you to have.
They don't care if you a woman, man, gay, black, white, trans. Military is a training ground .
You haven't given any reason why a gay person who signs up should be denied. There is a lot of people who don't want to go into the military, should they be denied if some change there mind and decide to be chrstian?
(course the analogy means the LGBTQ community automatically doesn't like the military. Which isn't true.) I'm Bisexual, and I want to join the military, I still am willing to be tested and I'm willing to defend my country. Should I be denied?
If you were denied because you were white, and white people have always shown to be aggressive and discriminant tendency's, Which isn't proper for the military who not only fights in other countries but helps innocents; would you be mad?
Some whites don't, some blacks don't, some gays don't and some trans don't.
But there are some that do. Wanting to go into the military and defending a nation isn't part of being gay. Its an indivual choice that you have to make for yourself.
And everyone makes that choice, gay or no. By you're logic whites and blacks shouldn't be allowed in the military. Because some oppose it.
And wtf does gun control have to do with admission into the military?
In fact someone who is for gun control wouldn't mind going in. Because they believe AVERAGE CITIZENS shouldn't be allowed. Not military personnel who are trained.
You also seem to forget that there Is a deference in being deployed and in battle.
Than here working. You can be in the military and never fight in you're life. But whatever job you do , helps the military. Support is support. With mechanics everything would fail.
And again " Progressivism is a philosophy based on the idea of progress, which asserts that advancement in science, technology, economic development, and social organization are vital to improve the human condition"
how is Progress bad?
And you still, STILL, haven't given any reasoning to why a trans person should be denied access to joining the military.
There is none. They work. The military isn't all fighting. There are people behind the lines, intelligence, repair, electronics, weapons development, admin, Military police.
There is little front line war now due to technology.
What is the reasoning behind Trannies being put in the military ? That is something you just can't answer even with all the information provided to you by links !
2) They'd be in the same uniform as everyone else, not clubbing like your inserted photo
3) I'd think it would scare the sh!t out of our enemies, Muslim or Russian or whomever, at the prospect they might be killed by the guy in the photo. It's quite a deterrent to messing with us.
4) Why aren't you in the military then? If you'd man up they wouldn't need to recruit the people you don't think should be in there.
should a woman be in a fire fight? Will she have time to dress and put on makeup in the heat of battle? No. And she doesn't.
A Drag Queen is what your looking for, Not a trans. I know someone whos trans and they don't wear makeup. They just act more like the gender and use different pronouns.
In fact you are only spurring on these gun control people, because its people like you, who make gays afraid of guns. People who have them tend to hate gays.
Given the Republicans have done nothing but be against them.
about 15,000 current trans service-members and 700,000 trans veterans, plus those that were kicked out and those that serve in other countries, etc etc
They'll of course do just fine - the same prejudices were said of blacks and gays, etc. etc. and never come true. There are many gay, trans, etc that can kick your ass any day - and that says nothing of all old bigots being pussies or all gay people being badasses, just that groups have diversity.
Now you wrote this Progressive -"about 15,000 current trans service-members" So why the reason for this -"Washington (CNN)The Pentagon said Thursday it was ending the ban on transgender people being able to serve openly in the U.S. military."
For the same reasons they got rid of Don't Ask, Don't Tell; military integrity, not kicking out people if they come out (or if others out them - either accidentally or maliciously), etc.
Spending money to train soldiers and then kick them out is for reasons other than ability is putting bigotry above country/security.
Several Arabic translators were kicked out of the military for being gay before 9/11 - a warning about 9/11 was in the translation backlog...
If there were 15,000 trannies as you say in the military then why lift a ban that wasn't in place ? Was there any need to lift a ban that didn't exist ?
For the same reasons they got rid of Don't Ask, Don't Tell; military integrity, not kicking out people if they come out (or if others out them - either accidentally or maliciously), etc.
Spending money to train soldiers and then kick them out is for reasons other than ability is putting bigotry above country/security.
Several Arabic translators were kicked out of the military for being gay before 9/11 - a warning about 9/11 was in the translation backlog...
So you can tell me without question the military did not know there was 15,000 trannies in the military as you have claimed ? If you believe that it shows nothing more than pure ignorance on your part !
They do anonymous surveys to find out numbers without finding out identities which would require them to take action towards dismissal. You not knowing that makes you the ignorant one...
Government knows everything about your life and mine not even in question but you are saying that the Government which runs the military was unaware of 15,000 trannies in it's ranks ? Explain that with some competence if you will !
B) They did know the approximate number of trans members but there was not a blanket ban on trans people being in the military, only a ban on serving openly. Members that were openly trans or outed by others were kicked out.
Government knows everything about your life and mine not even in question but you are saying that the Government which runs the military was unaware of 15,000 trannies in it's ranks ? Explain that with some competence if you will ! Can you answer ?
Will they have time to dress before they go to war? My lord you are showing extreme ignorance of military service. They won't be wearing make up, they will be going through basic training, they will be expected to be able to shoot a gun, they will have to wear the same uniform as all the other soldiers in the same command. They will get muddy, they will have to form a group of others they can rely on (be part of the team) and no one is going to give a damn when you are under fire and a person you know to be part of the LGBT is by your side fighting with you.
Of course not. They will be in uniform. If it's a surprise attack they will be in whatever they have on, probably sneakers or in some cases flip flops, bunking down in whatever ditch they can find for cover while they are shooting at the enemy. Duh. No one who is at risk for a surprise firefight is going to be wearing sequins outfits and heels especially when they are over seas and potentially surrounded by the enemy.
I'm fairly certain you know how to read. See the above answer. But if you need more, it depends on when the fire fight is now doesn't it? It also depends on what the commander of that unit allows for wear on off time. Can women wear dresses when they are stationed in hostile situations? Of course not and if they could I doubt they would, same as any other person, they will be aware of their surroundings and what could be a potential situation as their training dictates so most would be wearing an outfit that would allow movement. Trannies, as you say, will be under the same rules and regulations as all other officers.
Of course not. They aren't even forced to provide that to women. And most Trannies would have their own to use at a time when they are on leave. And gasp the military won't be forced to put glitter on their guns either! Imagine that.
I suppose that would be up to what they are best suited for now wouldn't it? And that's up to their command. If they are to be front line they they will be front line. They will be up for combat once their trained and show the ability to handle the situations, again, just like everyone.
If you're joining the military then you are obviously willing to take up arms when the fight is on, no one joins it to get their nails done. Otherwise they'd just stay where they were.
Your argument is flawed. First off not everyone in the LGBT community are against guns, that's a ridiculous idea. Second. If they are fighting to be accepted in the military then they are knowing exactly what they are getting in to.
I am saying any member of the LGBT community that joins the military is going to be expected to get through basic training to be in the military, that includes training in weaponry, which obviously includes guns.
Now 50 major funders and LGBT organizations are making it official in an open letter announcing their intention to fight for stronger protections against gun violence nationwide.
Do you seriously think the LGBT community is a single entity with only one mind set for ALL of them? Now who is ignorant? I'll say again. IF a trans-gendered person is joining the military it is with the express knowledge that they will be taking up arms and expected to learn how to shoot.
Following the mass shooting at an Orlando gay nightclub that left 49 dead and 53 injured, the LGBT movement is going to war against gun violence ! So you are telling me the LGBTQ have changed their view on guns ?
Again. Read exactly what I wrote above. Read it again. The LGBT is not a single organism that only has one thought for ALL. Not all lesbians believe in gun control. Not all gays believe in gun control. Not all Bi's believe in gun control. Not all Trans-gendered believe in gun control. I can't spell this out more. If they are wanting to join the military they are knowing exactly what they are getting in to.
Well, in 2011 the Williams Institute did a survey suggesting that there are approximately 9 million people who identify as LGBT in America alone. Taking into account that some people can't say their preference for fear of family upheaval and fear for their safety, I think it's safe to say that there are probably more than that, not to mention people who have "experimented" with the same sex. So you'll forgive me if I refuse to sit down and talk to each one of them to count how many people in the LGBT crowd are willing to take up arms.
Now. Do you seriously think there aren't already members of the LGBT in the military in active service? Because if you do, again I say you are showing extreme ignorance of the military.
There was a Staff Sergeant in my Company that was gay. This was before the repeal of DADT. He had served in Guantanamo as a Paralegal (27D) for the JAG office there, before being transferred to my unit.
Lets say a woman who denied biology and did sex change surgery to pretend to be man, joined the military.
Now the person in charge of a military unit in battle might think she has the strength of a man, which she never will, and puts her in a position she should not be.
These are the real world situations that could happen.
There are male MMA fighters who became woman and now have an unfair advantage.
A woman would have a harder time predending to be a man in the military. She would have to adopt the men's physical fitness standards. If she barely squeaks by on that, everyone will know how weak she is, just as they know who the weak men are. And no commander accidentally puts the unit weakling in a position that requires strength.
Exactly. To think that someone would join and just be tossed in a battle is ridiculous. They have to go through training, they have to be evaluated and then they'll be positioned accordingly. This is not that hard to understand.
OK. First off, the term "trannies" is an offensive word to Transgender people.
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If you want to join the army, you need to have the motivation to do so. Just because a man has transitioned to a woman, doesn't mean that they ALWAYS "need" to do their makeup. If they join the army, they'll have to have the determination to get in. If they get through, great, if they don't, they didn't do a good enough job. And that is a common thing. You are clearly being close minded about this, since (from my knowledge) i don't think you're even aloud to wear makeup when you're in the army, plus you don't really need it. If they're able to get through all the training and get the position they wanted, they're capable.
