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 Trump has not banned Muslims (24)

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Trump has not banned Muslims



The Progressives are beside themselves about what they believe on a Muslim Ban. It's just not true but the Progressives cannot and will not let go of a narrative ! Of course, back in 2011 when Barack Obama banned Iraqi refugees for six months the Progressives said nothing!
There were no protests at any airports ! In February of 2016 Obama put Libya, Yemen, and Somalia to a list of "countries of concern," which placed some restrictions on Visa Waiver Program travel on those who had visited the countries after March 1, 2011. Iran, Syria, Iraq and Sudan were already on the list from the administration's original law in 2015.
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I know that Trump has pointed to what Obama did, but honestly, they aren't the same circumstance. I also don't agree with Obama, but seriously, do a little research before you just restate the claims.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-trump-travel-ban-differs-obama-2011-policy-article-1.2959631

daver(1771) Clarified
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Trump did not say that the circumstances are the same. He referred to them as similar.

What we have in your link is yet another obvious example of left wing fake news. Nothing more. 👎

Atrag(5666) Clarified
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As a foreigner I'd be sincerely interested to know: what news station, that isn't right nor left wing, is presenting clear facts of what Trump is doing? What newpaper is most impartial in the US?

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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What aren't the same circumstances that you are referring to ?

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This video outlines it pretty well in a mostly nonpartisan way, if you actually care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJYTj-VI_L8

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By being economical with the truth the ''LUVIES of the LEFT', are deliberately attempting to attribute quotes and actions to Donald Trump which he never stated nor actioned.

After the San Bernardino Muslim atrocity Donald Trump stated,;-

''I will want a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S, until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on and until we are able to determine and understand this problem''

Through an executive order he has now invoked an experimental temporary ban on Muslims who are citizens of seven Muslim states with strong I.S.I.S, and other Muslim terrorist groups.

This statement is reported many times a day world wide in it's misleading abridged form, omitting the qualifying ending words of his sentence.

This action has the sole purpose of protecting the citizens of the United States and has nothing whatsoever to do with Islamaphobia or any other phobia.

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Progressives have a very short memory but one thing is for sure they are cry babies when they are exposed to Barack Obama policies !

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Trump ain't a smooth criminal, he's a painfully obvious criminal of, at the very least, white collar crime.

Obama was smooth as they come.

daver(1771) Clarified
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Can you offer any examples of criminal behavior on the part of president Trump, or are you just ranting?

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So Trump did not put a ban on the immigration of Muslims from seven ( is it seven ?) countries? Please explain to me how that is a lie because if that is not true a lot of people are angry for no reason.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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All started with the Obama Administration if you cared to take notice ! But did you miss that ?

Gypsee(347) Disputed
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That was not my question. My question was about Trump not Obama.

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Um, Trump just did, so, what can I say? It is only from certain countries though. If you do not believe me..

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/761087/Donald-Trump-immigration-ban-what-seven- countries-reasons-US-banning-Muslim-travellers

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If he banned 7 countries how is that a ban on the religion? Those seven countries don't represent the entire religion.

MistVillage(61) Disputed
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It's not a ban on Muslims. If it was all 10 of the most Muslim populated countries would be banned but only one of those 10 is banned (Iran). Also it's not just Muslims that aren't allowed. It's everybody. Muslims, atheists, christians, Buddhists, etc.

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Trump did not ban muslims. If he did ban Muslims then all 10 of the most heavily Muslim populated countries would be banned. But only Iran is. It's simply not a Muslim ban it's a ban on countries that have high concentrations of terrorists. 90 days they will not ber allowed into the country so we can better our screening process. Like I said if it was a Muslim ban all 10 of the most Muslim populated countries would be banned not just one.

MistVillage(61) Clarified
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Not to mention Obama did the same thing with Iraq and nobody batted an eye. The only reason people are mad about it is because Trump did it. If Obama did it everyone would either support him or just wouldn't mention it. u