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Debate Score:37
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Yes, here's why:

10 U.S. Code § 2808 - Construction authority in the event of a declaration of war or national emergency

(a) In the event of a declaration of war or the declaration by the President of a national emergency in accordance with the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) that requires use of the armed forces, the Secretary of Defense, without regard to any other provision of law, may undertake military construction projects, and may authorize the Secretaries of the military departments to undertake military construction projects, not otherwise authorized by law that are necessary to support such use of the armed forces. Such projects may be undertaken only within the total amount of funds that have been appropriated for military construction, including funds appropriated for family housing, that have not been obligated.

Supporting Evidence: Source (www.govinfo.gov)
Side: Yes
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

10 U.S. Code § 2808 - Construction authority in the event of a declaration of war or national emergency

Hello Big:

Well, there's that..

Then there's this: “All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives.”

— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 7, clause 1

excon

Side: No
BigOats(1449) Disputed
1 point

“All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives.”

This would only be relevant if he was trying to allocate new funds for his project. The statute I have cited allows him to use the funds that have already been appropriated for military construction projects, and have therefore already been approved by Congress.

Side: Yes
1 point

Which is overidden in the Constitution by plenary power through executive privilege concerning immigration.

Side: Yes
1 point

In both its initial brief and its reply to Hawaii’s arguments, the government invokes Article II and a statutory provision: 8 USC § 1182(f). Asserting that Article II provides “broad authority” for President Trump’s action, the government cites the Cold War Supreme court decision, United States ex rel. Knauff v. Shaughnessy (1950).

https://www.lawfareblog.com/travel-ban-and-presidential-power

Side: Yes
1 point

The wall is going up.

Trump isn't a quitter and his iron resolve and dogged determination will prevail.

Viva la pared

Side: Yes
1 point

He just may get his damn wall because of our repub autocratic cowards in the senate and because there is no evidence or history that even suggests the SCOTUS will stick to the constitution.

Side: Yes
1 point

“He has broad leeway to declare an emergency, frankly, whether one exists or not.”

Hello bront:

Sure.. He CAN declare an emergency.. But, CAN he take money that congress specifically said he COULDN'T??

Nahhh..

excon

Side: No
1 point

Sure.. He CAN declare an emergency..

Cool. He did.

But, CAN he take money that congress specifically said he COULDN'T??

Looks like the courts will have to decide.

Side: Yes
1 point

Let's dig a little further...shall we?

Hmmm...some leftist sites

The Alarming Scope of the President's Emergency Powers

From seizing control of the internet to declaring martial law, President Trump may legally do all kinds of extraordinary things.

-The Atlantic

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/576418/

Will the Supreme Court stop Trump's national emergency?

"We will have a national emergency and we will then be sued," Trump said in the Rose Garden on Friday. "We'll possibly get a bad ruling, and then we'll get another bad ruling, and then we'll end up at the Supreme Court and hopefully we'll get a fair shake."

-CNN

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/15/politics/national-emergency-supreme-court/index.html

The courts will likely let Trump declare an ‘emergency,’ even if it’s made up

-Washington Post

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/outlook/2019/02/15/there-is-no-real-emergency-border-trump- might-still-get-his-wall/

Side: Yes
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

The courts will likely let Trump declare an ‘emergency,’ even if it’s made up

Hello bront:

Two things can be true at the same time.. 1) The Supreme Court WILL let him declare an emergency.. 2) The Supreme Court will NOT let him take money that hasn't been appropriated..

excon

Side: No
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

The RESIDENT IDIOT speaks but the DUMB ASS has no clue that 59 National Emergencies HAVE been declared since 1976. Who said Trump could not take money that your NANNY told you he could not take ?????????????

Side: Yes
BigOats(1449) Disputed
1 point

Congress did not sign a bill prohibiting anyfuture funding of such projects.

Side: Yes