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UK woman arrested in Dubai after reporting rape
A British tourist has been arrested in Dubai on charges of extramarital sex after telling police a group of British nationals raped her in the United Arab Emirates, according to a UK-based legal advice group. "This is tremendously disturbing," Radha Stirling, the group's founder and director, said in a statement. "Police regularly fail to differentiate between consensual intercourse and violent rape."Victims go to them expecting justice, and end up being prosecuted. They not only invalidate their (victimization); they actually punish them for it." If convicted of consensual sex, the woman faces anywhere from a month to three years behind bars, followed by deportation, according to Faisal Alzarooni, a criminal defense lawyer who represents clients who've been charged with both rape and consensual sex in Dubai.
The Progressive / Left supports the Muslims and why ? Consensual sex in the Muslim world lands a woman in jail. In the Muslim world the women are charged with rape. Here is their reality check as to who Muslims really are.
A british tourist was shot and killed in the US for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. "This is tremendously disturbing," Radha Stirling, the group's founder and director, said in a statement. "Police regularly fail to protect citizens and tourists from gun violence. People trust them to do justice, but end up being murdered."
The US has a firearm related death rate of 10.54 in 2014. That is over five times the rate in Canada. That means for every 1000 people, more than one die every year of a gun-related accident or murder. That's over 11,000 murders, and over 500 accidents every single year.
The republicans / right wing support the second amendment and the lack of gun control, but why? Any lunatic can buy a gun and kill anyone that comes in his way. In America you can by ammo at K-mart. Here is our reality check as to who Americans really are!
It highlights just how ridiculous it is for Outlaw60 to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few by using the same type of blanket generalization about Republicans.
Do you think maybe he took a wrong turning and became disorientated?
If the British tourist had survived the incident do you think he would have been charged with presenting himself as a target, walking around with lead which didn't belong to him and bleeding all over the sidewalk?
That is exactly right, women are not jailed for rape in the US - isnt the right thing to do then to open your boarders to the millions of refugees fleeing from these awful laws they lived under?
Shocking numbers: How criminal are Somalis in Denmark
By Berit Hartung Tirsdag den 17. december 2013, BT
[Bing translate] Somalis in Denmark are more criminal than Danes and immigrants from other countries. It is being revealed in brand new figures from the Ministry of Justice.
A recent response by the Justice Minister to the Parliamentary Committee on Foreign and Integration Policy shows that the problem of criminals with Somali citizenship is a large and growing problem.
People with Somali citizenship were sentenced in 2012 for violations of criminal law almost ten times more often [1000%] as people with Danish citizenship, which taking into account consist of the largest population group.
For every 1000 Somali nationals charged last year 114 were convicted for violations of the Penal Code. The same figures for Danish citizens is 13 (12.9% of 1000), while 54 out of 1000 citizens from other countries got a conviction.
Roughly 500 members of the Islamist organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir (HT) gathered in Denmark’s capital city of Copenhagen on Friday, calling for Shariah law for European countries.
So you want the War on Women that you Progressives claim to oppose !
Documentary filmmakers in Denmark conducted an undercover investigation, with hidden cameras, into claims that imams are working towards keeping parallel societies for Muslims within Denmark.
Abu Bilal, imam of the Grimhøj mosque, told Fatma that her husband is entitled to take another wife. Fatma is not allowed to deny her husband his "sexual rights," even when he is violent.
Yet women in Muslim countries are jailed for consensual sex. What a Religion of Peace
Okay, yeah well here's what I can tell you about BT - your source.
They post gossip stories about the Royal family, politicians and celebrities. They have several times been sued and found guilty in printing untrue and damaging stories about public figures as well regular citizens.
So I would think twice before using them as a source for your Numbers :)
There is a legit source of statistics here: www.dst.dk
There you can find all available legit statistics concerning Denmark
The rising tide of jihad violence committed against Europeans by Muslim immigrants is having a predictable effect. No matter how many times people are told that the “overwhelming majority” of Muslims are peaceful, people understand the calculation that a small percentage of a Muslim population numbering in the hundreds of thousands or millions amounts to an unacceptably large army of would-be terrorists in their midst.
Denmark should halt immigration from Muslim countries to stem the threat of violence from extremists, the nation's second-largest party argued Thursday.
The deputy party leader of the anti-immigrant Danish People's Party, Soeren Espersen, and other officials said the existing 270,000 Muslims in Denmark, a country of less than 6 million people, already posed a severe risk of harboring sympathizers to the Islamic State militant group.
The Religion of Peace are a severe risk to women !
Uhm Lol... Denmark has one of the strictest immigration laws in Europe. It is true that we have around 300,000 muslims in Denmark but not all of them are born in a muslim country. Most, the majority of those were born and raised here.
So Im not sure what your plan is to defeat isis, but we cant send our muslims "back" because they were always here, so we have no where to send them.
It’s absolutely criminal that the government and authorities continues to hide the fact that these dramatic figures are a direct result from a growing Muslim and migration presence in Europe. To not reveal this fact to the public and allow the people a choice to decide their own future and whether to support mass migration or not is completely undemocratic. Europe’s decades of struggles to give security and equality to women and children is under threat from social engineering and one-sided government policies that refuses to listen to facts or allow proper data to be collected.
The European Union has pushed unprotected women and children into the arms of a foreign assaulter who present a medieval mindset which endlessly victimize and targets these groups as ‘lesser worthy’ beings. Muslim societies not only encourage the attack, beating, rape and even killing of women but also legalizes it.
War on WOMEN and don't say it isn't from the Religion of Islam
Muslims say they hate Denmark and the Danes. And these young Muslims who were born and raised in Denmark. The youths are attracted by radical religious environments and immigrant gangs, where they come together to hate Denmark.’“
I think you should tell me about it, I know nothing of this peaceful religion you speak of, yet you keep insisting it exists. So by all means, please tell me of you beloved religion of peace?
After a Danish newspaper published cartoons of Muhammad in 2006, an imam (who had been welcomed to Denmark as an immigrant), traveled back to the Middle East and whipped up hatred that resulted in deadly rioting on three continents. Demonstrators in London held signs reading "Massacre Those Who Insult Islam."
You Danish support immigration from the Religion of Islam ?
and hatred for the native Danish population continues to escalate.
There's is thing that doesn't make sense in this statement - The majority of danish muslims are native danes. So if danish muslims hate native danish people, they are hating themselves.
Muslims are using immigrant gangs to enforce religious Sharia laws in residential areas throughoutDenmark. The unholy alliance between religious extremists and hardcore criminals is prevalent in residential areas where younger people being forced to behave in certain ways and women are forced to dress in particular ways.
Muslim gang members typically support individual imams and mosques with a strict interpretation of Islam.
The Religion of Peace hates your country and your women.
According to Sharia law, women have little to no rights. It's closer to 0 in countries like Saudi Arabia, Arabian Emirates, Oman e.t.c. They are not allowed to leave these countries. When Muslim families immigrate they usually bring Sharia along with them. Since there are usually a lot of children in a Muslim family, the wife is totally dependent on her husband, and the courts are very reluctant to divorce such immigrant families.
These immigrant Muslims are told by their clerics that they should not accepts Western culture and should continue living under Sharia law.
I'd love to see your sources, because like my good friend outlaw pointed out, there are 300,000 muslims in Denmark, and although I believe there are violent husbands who oppress their wives it is certainly not something I can generalize for all of them, because muslim women go to school, they run for elections of different kind, and in general muslim women in Denmark use their rights as citizens in Denmark.
Both outlaw and you are throwing a bunch of facts at me (I don't believe outlaw's fact are correct, he refuses to give me a source) - but I can't see any of what you are proposing in my daily life. I don't see anything of what you are proposing, we've had muslim immigrating since god knows how long.
Any nut can not go buy a gun. The editor of the chicago tribune tried, in order to show how easy it was to buy and Ar-15, but he wasn't allowed to because of a background check. Moreover, most of those guns that are used in murders come from the black market. Therefore, making it harder for a law abiding citizen to get a gun would do nothing to help with murders in fact it would just cause more death because the law abiding citizens would be helpless when a murder with a gun comes. Also, maybe instead of increasing gun control the government should increase firearm training and proper storage of firearms in order to avoid incidents. sorry if offended you you can go buy a straw at kmart and suck it up.
The Bureau of Statistics says that little information exists about the use of assault weapons in crime. The information that does exist uses varying definitions of assault weapons that were developed before the Federal assault weapons ban was enacted.
You can't claim most murder-guns to be from the black market, because almost 6000 new murders go unresolved every year. 211,000 since 1980.
The statistics can't take those into account, and that's why you can't make claims from the analyzed statistics.
Islam, coupled with Sharia Law is the antitheses of everything liberals claim they stand for. Equal rights; freedom of speech/expression; freedom of /from religion; empowerment of women; lifestyle choice etc. would perish under Islamic rule, yet they defend it. Go figure.
The Progressive / Left don't really know what they stand for. Their marching orders must come from Big Government that keeps them in a constant state of confusion.
Talk about a War on Women the Muslims own it and the Progressive / Left own it as well for the support of a faith they really don't understand nor do they want to.
What this story really demonstrates is how blindly following an ideology instead of thinking for yourself or using your heart too often results in absurd harm being done to good people.
Religion, political philosophy, economic philosophy, etc, if taken to the extreme with unbending rules and mandates all pretty much always result in absurd cases like this where people trying to do the right thing get brutalized by authorities who are cold an indifferent to their suffering or intentions.