Vegetarians who eat anything they didn't grow themselves are hypocrites
If you say you don't eat animals because you think it's wrong to kill animals, and you eat any kind of food that was grown in a crop, you are a hypocrite. When clearing space for crops to grow, millions of habitats are destroyed, and hundreds of thousands of animals are killed in the clearing, the harvesting, and the plowing of new crops.
The only way to truly make sure no animals are harmed is to grow all of your food yourself, and make all of your clothes yourself etc etc. You will also have to build your own house, produce your own electronics, source your own water, just to make sure no one kills any animals in the process.
Sound like to much hard work for you? Then don't pretend that you are saving animals and act like you're morally superior to me. If you are too lazy to do all of the above, you are no better than someone who eats meat.
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I'd suppose that the vegetarians would have to be pro-capitalism if they're not going to grow their own crops, unless they feel that the labor force under big farms is justified... through the merits of capitalism. and if you buy from small farms, well, those guys use animals as slaves. Really, though, I don't think they're hypocrites. But ideology that restricts what you eat based on "animal rights" seems silly to me, so why not hurl a few jokes at the poor bastards? After all, if we can discredit their views we'll be able to save a bunch of potential future victims who would be brainwashed into thinking that vegetarianism is the "right" thing to do. Side: Yes
It's evil, and tastes bad, and really you're eating corpses, and that's just disgusting, and I love animals- It'd be hypocritical if I wasn't a vegetarian, I have pets... and a thousand more reasons. It is the right thing to do. Eating meat is just disgustig, and being wicce it would be very difficult for me. Side: No
It's evil, and tastes bad subjective. you're eating corpses I'm aware. that's just disgusting subjective. I love animals All of them? It'd be hypocritical if I wasn't a vegetarian, I have pets I see. Hold them as slaves instead of eating them. How unhypocritcal of you. It is the right thing to do. Based solely on the logic of your own morality. Not of mine. Side: Yes
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Makes sense. I agree. I briefly worked at a popular chain supermarket. Meat has one of the highest turnover rates of any product, and supermarkets trash an amazing amount of meat every single day. The vegetarian community is not large enough to significantly influence how much fresh meat is bought, however, so really they're just wasting animals that have already been killed by not buying and eating them. The animals will be killed if they're a vegetarian or no, so in addition to not "saving the animals" they're actually contributing to completely needless deaths by not buying the meat supermarkets and restaurants over-stock in anticipation of people buying it. Side: Yes
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Umm....cropland already exists. By eating food grown on cropland, you are doing no damage whatsoever (with the exception of insecticides). The cropland exists. Animals have already been displaced. I don't see how this argument has any credence. And your solution is to grow your own crop? Do you know how inefficient, costly, time consuming, and labor consuming it is to grow your garden that has every food you eat? 1. That would set our economic growth back to rates we haven't seen in over a century (food surpluses are the basis of any economy historically). 2. That would take up MORE space and resources due to the inefficiency, leading to the displacement/death of MORE animals. Side: No
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For many people, it is actually cheaper to grow some of your own fruit + vegetables than it is to buy them. This does not apply to everyone (you need a garden), and it discounts the opportunity cost of the time you would spent tending to your garden, however. Regardless, almost everyone I know that gardens claims that there is an intrinsic value to growing your own food, so I feel it adds up. For example, my grandad bought a plum tree sapling, for about 100 USD, spent a few hours setting it up, before letting it grow. After a year or so, they now have as many plums as they can eat during the summer, and will have for a few summers to come. However thrifty you are, it will never be worth growing all of your produce yourself (due to economies of scale) but nonetheless, not only is it enjoyable + rewarding for many, you can comfortably compliment your own shopping with homegrown produce, saving money overall. Side: Yes
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