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Vice. Virtue.
Debate Score:30
Arguments:18
Total Votes:35
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Vice or virtue: Obedience to authority?

Vice.

Side Score: 6
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Virtue.

Side Score: 24
1 point

Obedience to authority is a form of slavery. People have the right to do whatever they want provided that no one gets hurt.

Side: Vice.
3 points

So you believe that every hierarchy is a form of slavery? Listening to your boss is slavery?

Side: Virtue.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

Laws and limits are a form of slavery. .

Side: Vice.
Atrag(5666) Disputed Banned
3 points

This explains why you thought post indecent nude images of children on this site was alright. No one got hurt right?

Side: Virtue.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

I have the right to oppose the murder of unborn children. If they truely are children, they have the right to live. Pictures are a way to educate people about crime.

Side: Vice.
Cuaroc(8829) Disputed Banned
1 point

provided that no one gets hurt.

Which is the reason authority exists.

Side: Virtue.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

Obedience to authority is a form of slavery. .

Side: Vice.
Amritangshu(892) Disputed
1 point

Well it seems you're saying attack is the best form of defense but certainly a good-mannered guy would bear obedience irrespective of the type of actions undertaken by the same authority.

Side: Virtue.
1 point

There is a difference between blind obedience to authority and good leadership with following based on sound reason and logic.

Side: Vice.
Amritangshu(892) Disputed
0 points

A true soldier fights under the orders of his commander regardless of whether the orders are right or otherwise;The question states 'Obedience' whether it be blind or not,one must bear obedience under good or bad leadership,that's a virtue worth having.

Side: Virtue.
MKIced(2511) Disputed
1 point

And I think having true obedience is a vice because it means having no say in your own actions, no brain to tell you right from wrong. Dogs have obedience, people have logic and morality.

Side: Vice.

I would say that informed and reasonable obedience to authority is a virtue. Without obedience, society and everything within it, even at the family level, breaks down.

Simply put, leadership and project planning are completely different skill sets than those utilized by the workers actually carrying out the project. Look at just about any sector as an example. Compare Laying pipe to designing a plumbing system. Compare Tactical combat maneuvers to large scale strategic planning. Ad nauseum, really.

Blindly following orders and treating authority as absolute and not subject to moral judgement of any kind, however, is most definitely a vice.

Soldiers doing their best to accomplish their assigned mission are generally virtuous, at least in this aspect of their character.

Soldiers firing on unarmed civilians due to orders are not.

Blind unquestioning obedience is a subset of obedience, so I would generally classify it as the exception, and obedience as a virtue as the general rule.

Side: Virtue.

It depends on the kind of authority we're talking of;if its good authority whose exercise of powers are legitimate and beneficial definitely obedience otherwise if it's like that of Caesar and Hitler,it's a vice.

Side: Virtue.