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Debate Score:153
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Was Hitler good or bad?

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Side Score: 68

Personally I don't think anyone can be one or another (good or bad) because it is subject to a persons opinion. But seeing as there are a lot of ignorant people out there that think he was alround bad I'm gonna have to say that overal he was 'good'. Yes I agree that Adolf Hitler made a dick move by killing a heap of homosexuals, black people and Jewish people - there is nothing good I can see in that (however he is a bit unfairly branded as the one that did all the work...Himmler I'm looking at you...). Now that we can all agree that was a shitty thing to do, let me get into why he was 'good'. After WWI the UN (I believe it was, correct me if I'm wrong) made Germany sign an agreement that stated that Germany was solely responsible for WWI in its entirey and that they would not be allowed a propper armed force. Naturally the Geramans were quite pissed. So along comes this dude that says he can bring the country up from the ashes (Hitler), so naturally the Germans are like "SHIT YEAH!" and they all have a sexy party. SO Hitler does bring the country back from the Ashes and builds an entire army, funds schools and other organisations, and overall just fixes the country - so everyone loved him. Then after he died people realised that Hitler probably shoudn't have killed all those Jews, homos and blacks - so he was unfairly branded as 'allround bad'.

So yes Hitler was a 'bad' person, but he was a bloody amazing leader and should get what credit he deservs.

Side: Good
4 points

I wouldn't say he was a bloody amazing leader. He went back on his word with Russia, attempted to stab them in the back, and ultimately failed miserably against them. This would eventually turn into a two front war. You don't just walk away from a two front war unscathed (let alone war in general).

He fought too far into Russia too fast, and his troops froze and starved to death from lack of supplies. A VERY dumb move on his part. That was the first mistake. The second was that while he was losing in Russia, he declared war on the United States. Now, at this time America had declared war on the Japanese... but not Germany. He sealed his fate when he decided to declare war on so many people at once.

Side: Bad
KaiserDenEU(10) Disputed
4 points

You make it look like Germany and The Soviet Union were best friends before Barbarossa. The Molotov Ribentraup pact only dived up eastern europe between two power hungry dictators. The war with Russia was inevitable both sides had already plans if the other attacked. The Sheer hatred between the comunists (Ussr) and the Fascists (Germany) was seen when Spain had a civil war in 1937 i believe, both countries funded oposite groups although the fascists eventually won over the comunists. The war was inevitable if Hitler Focused every last effort on Britain whos to say Stalin wouldnt turn his back on the treaty AFTER ALL STALIN WAS THE SAME DESPICABLE MAN HITLER WAS KILLING 15 MILLION PEOPLE DUE TO PARANOIA, AND BUTCHERD 90% OF THE SOVIET OFICER CORE

Side: Good
2 points

I agree. I find him no better or worse than America's government.

He was insanely influential and it took skill to do what he did.

I don't like the man, but I don't see people as being "good" or "bad" there's more to them then just a few actions they did.

Side: Good
chris4251(17) Disputed
2 points

"So yes Hitler was a 'bad' person, but he was a bloody amazing leader and should get what credit he deservs."

So why didn't you tag your argument as "bad"?

Side: Bad
2 points

Ok, first of all, let me say that this was a Fking good argument. Seriously. This is genius, amazing, and awesome. However, i do disagree.

The idea of good and bad, are not necessarily about your ability to do things, such as reviving a country 'from the ashes,' it's about how you USE your resources. If you are a good leader, and create good things, but then use your leadership to commit bad actions, you are not still being good.

For example, say someone came along and removed all of our country's problems, but while doing it destroyed all of the people in our country who were not born here. I think we can agree that this would go against basic human values, and would be considered 'bad.' Or, if we killed about 11 million people to save our country, the actions would outweigh the result.

So, even if Hitler was an amazing leader, that does not excuse the fact that he used his leadership skills to commit 'bad' actions, which is why Hitler was bad, not good.

Side: Bad
debator97(37) Disputed
1 point

is this even a question? he murdered, MURDERED over 6 million jews, and countless homosexuals, disabled people, and gypsies. he TORTURED tons of people. because he made the country rich he was good? he created a world war! the only reason he got the money is because he STOLE it from the people who he sent to ghettos, concentration camps, and death camps. You think that is a good leader? your idea of good is fucked up.

Side: Bad
JoshB42385(19) Disputed
3 points

Okay yes he was a horrible person, but my real question is why did you say yes?

Side: Good
Scapegoat(29) Disputed
2 points

I believe Hitler was both good and bad. The way he lived, and the drugs he did, the decisions he made- horrible. He is no different from any political leader, in fact- many of America's wars and tactics are modeled from Hitler's ideas. Ex:Eugenics

Side: Good
2 points

is this even a question?

Clearly it is

he murdered, MURDERED over 6 million jews, and countless homosexuals, disabled people, and gypsies. he TORTURED tons of people.

I acknowledged that.

because he made the country rich he was good?

Yes, without him, germany would be practically a third world country

he created a world war!

Incorrect; those that opposed him created it. On country cannot create a world war, many countries do. And he had good reasons for helping to start one

the only reason he got the money is because he STOLE it from the people who he sent to ghettos, concentration camps, and death camps

the only reason America got the money is because they STOLE it from the people who live in foreign countries by pretending to help them. See how I can easily change that? That just proves how ignorant you are.

You think that is a good leader?

One that practically saves their country by brining them back to the status of a major world power? Yup.

your idea of good is fucked up.

Clearly your idea of bad is fucked up. Stop being ignorant and learn to argue intelligently and look beyond the propaganda, you dumbass.

Side: Good
3 points

To all the countless people mentioning the holocuast

America Remember those indians you butcherd and kicked out of your country???

Spain Remember those Aztecs and Indiginous mexican South american people you killed for gold and land?

Israel remember Palestine???

Uk Remember killing those indians and africans for land??

Belgium Remember how you treated the people of the Congo

Poland Remember how you invaded every country bordering you for land after becoming independent (lithuania Czech Republic Russia) and how you treated your ukrainian majority in south eastern poland as bad as the germans treated jews

China Do i even have to say anything here

France Remember how you killed millions of africans and asians for colonies and is disrespectfull to foreigners today

EVERY COUNTRY HAS DONE A TON OF BAD THINGS IN HISTORY IN STEAD OF DEMONIZING HITLER DEMONIZE EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS KILLED ANOTHER PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CAESER IM LOOKING AT YOU!!

Side: Good
3 points

After WW1 Germany was bankrupt and without friends in Europe. There was no feasible way to lower unemployment and inflation and get the economy back on track. There was no one to trade with.

On his rise to power Adolf Hitler used expansion to re employ the German People. The building of Autobahns and new architecture, huge stadiums and places for huge political rallies were built. These employed huge amounts of people. Then there was rearming and again millions more were employed. The economy was back on track and looking good.

If the average German family saved just 5 marks a week, they could own a brand new VolksWagon, that's how good it was.

Side: Good
3 points

He was a very good person he would never drink wine or he even didn't smoke so much.

He loved kids and was a very good person.

He though captured many place but actually he took the revenge of world war one

Side: Good
3 points

He was a very good person he would never drink wine or he even didn't smoke so much.

He loved kids and was a very good person.

He though captured many place but actually he took the revenge of world war one

Side: Good
2 points

Personally, i feel Hitler was not a very bad kinda guy....... We all know that the Germans had suffered a setback in the first world war. If it was not for Hitler, the nation would have sunk into the depths of economic crisis. It was Hitler who brought the economy of the nation back on its legs.........And to think of it, he had developed the nation so much that he went into another war within a very short time............. If it was not for the war Germany would have risen to greater heights but that does'nt matter as it was only the good things that appeared big for me............

Side: Good
2 points

He could have been a great leader if he didn't execute many Jews....

Side: Good
2 points

It wasn't just the Jews it was disabled people, Slavic peoples, gypsies, gays, Jehovah's witnesses, black people, people of different political views and beliefs. He also unfairly treated women. 5 million people died in the holocaust who were not Jewish.

Side: Bad
2 points

You cannot consider the fact that yes, he killed over six million Jews, but the fact that he changed Germany in so many different ways is what makes him good. He increased the production of many products and also changed much of the architecture. I have so much respect for this man due to the fact that he could change things so easily and make an enormous and beneficial result. Yes, he created a massive war but the choice was all in those that chose to favor Hitler. If enough people rejected Hitler's dictatorship then he would have more than likely been removed or attacked. So before you go on speaking of him killing six million Jews, thinking of all the positive changes before hand and ignore the genocide.

Side: Good
daver(1771) Disputed
3 points

You cannot consider the fact that yes, he killed over six million Jews

Excuse me but:

Increasing the production of weapons, nearly producing the atomic bomb, building temples to the glory of the third reich cannot be described by a reasoned mind, as offsetting one of the worst genocides in history. This is not even mentioning the destruction of many great cities in Europe. Decades of humiliation for the German people, the prevention of their leadership role Europe for decades to come. The exodus if its greatest minds. Come On!

The best thing that ever happened to Germany's future was loosing the war.

Side: Bad
ShySmile(15) Disputed
3 points

Despite it being the worst genocides in history, Hitler changed decades all over the world. He helped people quit smoking because he was concerned with their health. In 1940, the annual cigarette consumption in Germany was 749 while America smoked over 3,000. The Autobahn? Yup. Hitler encourage for a larger network of roads to be built across Germany. This established the FIRST freeway system in the world. This eventually spread through out continents and forever changed the way humans travel. Also, the building of the Autobahn provided over 100,000 workers with jobs necessary for economic efforts. Did I mention Hitler wanted to bring UNITY through road way systems.The man who helped America send a man to the moon? Wernher Von Braun? He was a member of the Nazi party and was a Schutzstaffel officer. He developed the Saturn V booster rocket. That was the one carrying man to the moon in the summer of 1969. This former Nazi opened the gate to space travel. HE WAS A NAZI. Just like Hitler. Hitler helped people realize their full potentials. He was a great guy.

Side: Good
ShySmile(15) Disputed
2 points

Despite it being the worst genocides in history, Hitler changed decades all over the world. He helped people quit smoking because he was concerned with their health. In 1940, the annual cigarette consumption in Germany was 749 while America smoked over 3,000. The Autobahn? Yup. Hitler encourage for a larger network of roads to be built across Germany. This established the FIRST freeway system in the world. This eventually spread through out continents and forever changed the way humans travel. Also, the building of the Autobahn provided over 100,000 workers with jobs necessary for economic efforts. Did I mention Hitler wanted to bring UNITY through road way systems.The man who helped America send a man to the moon? Wernher Von Braun? He was a member of the Nazi party and was a Schutzstaffel officer. He developed the Saturn V booster rocket. That was the one carrying man to the moon in the summer of 1969. This former Nazi opened the gate to space travel. HE WAS A NAZI. Just like Hitler. Hitler helped people realize their full potentials. He was a great guy.

Side: Good
2 points

beacuse there was nothing he could do besides kill the jues and get a better army besides he did his job my helping the germans

Side: Good
1 point

Hitler was a good person because he save Germany from starvation. Germany was in a depressor and with money being worthless he saved them by giving them food from France which was taken over.

Side: Good

WOW. The rhetoric over him!

Anyway- he was correct about Christianity!! And all 3 Abrahamic religions. He was correct about EVOLUTION of MAN!! Without him, we continue to meander along I. Evolutionary PAUSE.

Because he LOST- I say he’s BAD

Side: Good

WOW. The rhetoric over him!

Anyway- he was correct about Christianity!! And all 3 Abrahamic religions. He was correct about EVOLUTION of MAN!! Without him, we continue to meander along I. Evolutionary PAUSE.

Because he LOST- I say he’s BAD

Side: Good
5 points

Hitler was not good because he killed many Jews and Christians this is what he said in the book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young

Here is what he said in this book about Christianity itself:

Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)

10th October, 1941, midday:

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

14th October, 1941, midday:

The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)

19th October, 1941, night:

The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.

21st October, 1941, midday:

Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65)

13th December, 1941, midnight:

Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119)

14th December, 1941, midday:

Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)

9th April, 1942, dinner:

There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339)

27th February, 1942, midday:

It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ." (p 278)

Supporting Evidence: Was Hitler a Christian? (www.answers.org)
Side: Bad
Scapegoat(29) Disputed
2 points

Hitler was born a Christian, and he took money from the Catholic church which supported the Nazi party- as did America. He was wrong for killing so many innocent people, but I'm afraid he was right about Christianity.

Side: Bad
1 point

I agree for what you have said. You are right! This is true because it has actual conversation of what Hitler has said.

Side: Bad
1 point

That's not even an argument? That is just copying and pasting something from another website we all agree upon anyway. Also Hitler was a Catholic, just to let you know ;)

...and no I'm not lieing.

Side: Good
2 points

Well, since most people are judged based on how they end their career, and or life, I have to say bad. In fact, he was really, really bad. But, I have to wonder if he was also suffering from a series of horrible things that occured to him over the course of his life. He may have started out life like all of us...somewhat innocent. But alas, his end was bad...so, BAD IT IS!

Side: Bad
2 points

There is now ample evidence Hitler was quite insane I believe.

That does not excuse the actions though.

You cannot abide by the acts of one who causes that much grief in such a short span regardless of mental capacity.

Despite doctrine to the contrary history rightly judges one by what is done, not by what is believed by the individual commiting the act.

No doubt in his mind he was some sort of hero, likley even demigod by his insanity.

But he was a disease.

That said, every German neighbor who saw a Jewish neighbor shipped to hell knew where at the time failed a basic test of humanity.

It's what happens when people abandon their mind for the comfort of some belief, regardless of the belief.

Side: Bad
2 points

Great leader; I will give him that. But no matter how you chalk it up, he ordered the mass murder of millions of innocent people. That cannot be considered good and is unforgivable.

Side: Bad
hhioh(454) Disputed
2 points

Proof? Although the Nazi Party did kill many, many people it never directly came from Hitler. Also, in his eyes, they were not innocent. I am merely being the Devil's Advocate here, but imagine it like this: it is like with Americans, most believe terrorists are bad and would see it as a good thing getting rid of them all. You have to put it into perspective on where the person comes from and whether or not it is their fault directly. Personally I believe a sin is a sin, but it could quite easily be argued it was a result of the anti-Semite atmosphere in Europe and most of the world at that period of time.

Side: Good
1 point

he's clearly a wicked person.... he killed a lot of innocent people, and without any logical reasons. he killed 'em just coz he hated 'em. he didn't even do any good both to the Jews and the Germans

Side: Bad
1 point

he killed a lot of innocent people, and without any logical reasons. he killed 'em just coz he hated 'em.

Haven't done your research, aye? There is a bit more to do with it than just 'hating' them. Also at that time everyone hated Jews, homos, blacks, ect... so it was quite hypocritical of the Americans especially to be calling the Nazis 'evil'.

Side: Good
chris4251(17) Disputed
1 point

uh...Americans weren't the one's mass murdering innocents...nor was anyone else besides the German Nazi Party...

The rest of the world may not have "liked" Jews, blacks, homosexuals, etc., but at least they weren't putting them in giant furnaces.

Side: Bad

All religious,political, and national undertones aside... I believe he was bad for the world. Between his murdering, his hate mongering, his stealing, his blatant disrespect for human life, and the disrespect he had for his own family... I'm not quite sure why I dislike him. Yes. He economically helped germany. However, he was a tactical mess waiting to happen. Honestly, no rational commander would send his under supplied troops to attack Russia in the winter. Under supplied because you can't out flank Russia... Its HUGE. They over stretched their supply lines... but I digress. Ultimately, he did more harm than good. By a LARGE amount.

Side: Bad

Thankyou for being one of the few that actually made a valid argument that recognized both sides of the argument whilst still choosing you own :)

Side: Good
1 point

Hitler was the most powerful leader that humanity have ever seen. But the actions that were dictated by this leader were damaging and unfair. He killed thousands of people and almost destroyed a nation. We don't know what he was like inside, may be he was a good person with his wife. But we can't judge by that. We can only judge by looking at his actions. And what he has done to the world shall never be repeated again.

Side: Bad
cod-pownage(126) Disputed
2 points

...and almost destroyed a nation

what nation did hitler almost destroy? If youre taking about germany, then your waaaayyyyy off. Hitler saved and rebuilt germany after the allies destroyed it. If your taking about the aftermath, then the allies destroyed it. If your taking about france, they were the ones responsible destroying germany, so it was pretty much revenge.

Good; adj; of high quality: excelent. I think hitler fits this discription. He was a great orator. One of, if not, the best in the world since he was very pursuasive. He was a "high quality" soldier since he received 2 iron crosses (1 first class, 1 2nd class) in world war 1. He was an exellent leader since he led the small national socialist german workers (nsdap or nazis) from a minority group to the largest party in germany and made them win many seats in the reichstag. He was also a great artist. I'm not kidding, look up his art. He originally wanted to be an artist.

Good: adj; morraly good righteaous. Hitler was a vegetarian and often gave graphic discriptions of animals being slaughtered to make dinner guests shun meat. He banned vivsection, rebuilt the german economy and restored national pride- something absent for the end of wwi to his rule. He protected animals, put into action severe hunting restrictions and because of his actions, many endangered animals are still around. He even sent many men to concentraion camps for breaking these laws He enforced family values and even launched one of the molst succesful anti-smoking campaigns.. he even commisioned the invention for a cheap, efficient car the average german could afford: the volkswagon (literally peoples car).

Bad: adj of poor quality: inferior. Does he fit this discription?

Supporting Evidence: this is his art. (www.bytwerk.com)
Side: Good

"Bad" is kind of underselling it, doncha think?

Side: Bad

He ordered genocide on millions of people. He was evil incarnate.

Side: Bad
1 point

I say Hitler was one of the worst people to ever exist, I listen to the people what happen in those camp's the horrible thing that happen to them. They saw children die, the elderly suffer. The people in those camp would last for 9 month then die

Side: Bad
1 point

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Side: Bad

I posted on wrong side. I think because he lost

LOST =BAD. Lol

He was a great EVOLUTION master. Just bad strategist

Side: Bad
0 points

He killed millions of Jews. How could he possibly be good? Are you lame?

Side: Bad
2 points

Do you bother to look into both sides of the argument, or are you ignorant? Also HE did not kill millions of Jews, he gave the orders for people to kill them, I'm sick of dumb-fucks making that ignorant mistake in every single post on this bloody debate.

Side: Good
liza(99) Disputed
1 point

Okay... What the fuck is the difference? He didn't kill someone himself but ordered someone weaker to him who cannot say no to him to murder... While he watched. Wow.... Is something wrong with you?

Side: Bad
chris4251(17) Disputed
1 point

So are you saying that if YOU hired a hitman to kill your wife, YOU can still be a good person even though YOU gave the order?

Side: Bad
0 points

"""naturally the Germans are like "SHIT YEAH!" and they all have a sexy party. SO Hitler does bring the country back from the Ashes and builds an entire army, funds schools and other organisations, and overall just fixes the country - so everyone loved him""" Everyone loved him or majority his country which is a bias opinion being they received benefits during the chaos. Asking Jewish, homosexuals, and human beings in general; you'd get no he was scumbag leader! In order for his country to be prosperous him and his regime oppressed and tortured hundreds of thousands

Side: Bad
0 points

If you have to ask whether Hitler was good or bad you're just an ignorant mentally deranged turd, unworthy of notice or comment.

Side: Bad
1 point

So you gonna apply this to Farrakhan and his millions of Democrat followers...?

Side: Good