CreateDebate


Debate Info

8
8
Yes, he was a failure No, he wasn't a failure
Debate Score:16
Arguments:11
Total Votes:22
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 
 Yes, he was a failure (6)
 
 No, he wasn't a failure (5)

Debate Creator

LeRoyJames(372) pic



Was Jesus a failure?

I mean no disrespect to Jesus in this question.  Certainly he began a new religion that changed the face of Europe, but was that his main goal?  In comparing Jesus with Gandhi, both were men of peace, both lived in countries that were occupied by much stronger foreign powers, and both, I believe, taught a kind of non-violent resistance.  Of course, much more is known of Gandhi than of Jesus, but Jesus did teach his followers to "love your enemies", "offer up the other cheek", and "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's", and I believe he was trying to teach a kind of peaceful resistance with these messages.

Gandhi lived to see the English leave India, whereas the Jews executed Jesus, rebelled against the Romans, and were later defeated by the Romans and sent into exile.  My theory is that, if Jesus had succeeded in persuading the Jews to resist peacefully, they would never have been kicked out of their homeland, would never have had to displace so many people when they tried to return, and there would be peace in the Middle East today.  Do you agree?

Yes, he was a failure

Side Score: 8
VS.

No, he wasn't a failure

Side Score: 8
0 points

Hell, yeah! Jesus is definitely an epic fail. The very first version of the bible never said he was god. So get your jesus facts straight.

Side: Yes, he was a failure
Srom(12206) Disputed
0 points

The first version of the Bible was the King James Version which it did say that He was God. I think you need to do more research before saying something that isn't true.

Side: No, he wasn't a failure
LeRoyJames(372) Disputed
2 points

The King James version was the first English version, not the first version. The first bible was written in Greek.

Side: Yes, he was a failure
mrsci999(41) Disputed
1 point

Answer this wise guy. For the Roman Empire to accept christianity didn't they had to seek it from another place? So wouldn't that mean the christianity existed before the European versions of it.

Side: Yes, he was a failure
0 points

Hell, yeah! Jesus is definitely an epic fail. The very first version of the bible never said he was god. So get your jesus facts straight. The first and old christian church is in Ethiopia and christian was originally just a spin-off of the ancient Egyptians sunworship. Jesus was later used by the Roman Catholic Church to promote ideas of slaverly and partriotic sumbition to their leader. For example, in the begin of the bible you learn about how jesus is a loving, caring, wise leader of rightousness but then later your taught the jesus endured hard, testing tribulation but still stayed faithful to his master GOD. Then your told that jesus was living example for you and that he died for your sins, all of this just to make you feel guilty so you'll agree to be a footstool while your demonic leaders live good. Besides who would doubt the wise and all rightous man-god jesus? In addition your tauch that you'll get your reward in heaven, that is when you died and can't come back to tell the story. What a load crap.

Isn't obvious that christianity is tool for developing mental slaverly and if you don't believe me just look at the European colonial eras. Everywhere the went the spread christianity with them and everywhere christianity was accepted in the Americas a nation fell apart. They even use lethal force to make convert. If you ask me christian is more of a weapon domination than a instructment of religious propagation.

Side: Yes, he was a failure
0 points

Oh yeah original texts which the bible was composed of can definitely be trace back to africa origin that i'm sure can't be disputed but the interpetion of some its messages are not to be taking literal. For you see the origin of this belief is similiar to that of all major ones which contain esoteric interpetions.

Example: The idea of your soul going to heaven may actually refer to uplifting your state of consciousness to a state that is consider godly or transcending.

Side: Yes, he was a failure
3 points

Jesus' teachings are prevelent in everyday society. People are anti- gay, anti- abortion, and a number of other things that embody ideas proposed in the Bible. A number of commandments are laws of numerous countries too. Without Jesus, there would not have been a Catholic church to shape the ideas of midieval Europe and the Americas. His teachings have become the norm of numerous societies. Jesus did not fail just because the world isn't a peaceful and moral place, but he influenced the ideology of billions.

Side: No, he wasn't a failure
LeRoyJames(372) Disputed
2 points

I'm not arguing whether or not Jesus had an affect on the world, he obviously had a huge affect, but was that his real purpose? If you're Christian, and you believe that his main purpose was to save us from our sins, as srom suggests, then I would agree, he did accomplish that. But, if you look at the events that have happened since his death, events that God would have been able to foretell, it's hard not to think that maybe God was trying to prevent some of this from happening, and that Jesus's execution cut those plans short.

Side: Yes, he was a failure

Seeing as he would be God, it would be a somewhat difficult task for him to fail.

Side: No, he wasn't a failure

His teachings lasted over 2,000 years, he is know world wide and has over a billion followers... That's more than any of you can say.

Side: No, he wasn't a failure
0 points

No Jesus wasn't a failure. Jesus's main goal was to save us from our sins because no one was worthy enough to because everyone sinned and Jesus was without fault.

He has changed lives, civilizations, and how people live today.

Side: No, he wasn't a failure