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Was Mary forever virgin?
As a christian, i believe the bible story is not a myth.
And atheists should assume so.(no deviation or banned)
I personally find it absurd that the catholics still say mary was a virgin AFTER the birth of christ.
I always hated it when i was forcefully made to call mary a virgin in catholic prayers, and even the part which pisses me off is when i had to say "HOLY MARY, MOTHER OF GOD, PRAY FOR US SINNERS, NOW AND AT THE HOUR............" back when i was in a catholic boarding school.
When in the first place, mary wasn't even part of the plan. It was for the sake of joseph, mary had that priviledge.
Why?
Because, the prophecy says jesus shall come from the line of david, and mary was not a descendant of david but joseph was.
But because joseph couldn't have given birth as a man, the priviledge moved to the woman he chose as a wife.
This means it could have been any woman even other than mary, as long as joseph had intents of making her his wife.
And about the virginity..
The bible says jesus had siblings, thus; of the same mother and father.
Those siblings of jesus did not come forth in the immaculate manner jesus did, this implies that, mary and joseph then did have sex after the birth of christ.
So i don't get it why these catholics insist on mary's virginity.
It is so absurd, illogical and irritating when you think about such nonsense being insisted no matter what.
I found it's best to completely avoid reading some of these people...they are Hell bound and care nothing but to try to get others to go along with them so that makes you their hated enemy.....it's casting peals before swine trying to reason with them
I'm not reading anything you say here or in private message. It would make me feel sorry for you knowing you are on your way to Hell, and then I would try to tell you how you can be saved, and you would trample the pearls I cast to you under your feet like a swine and attack me. The site is much more enjoyable when I ignore people like you, dermit, and a few others
Someone who goes around preaching to the unseen crowd. They can be found in quiet places, or if they are bold, in public, speaking to those who are not there, or to those who are hidden. Most preaching sheiks are borderline or full blown schizophrenics, though are not always crazy, as they appear to be.
Preaching sheiks give entertaining speeches and acts to the spirit world which watches them constantly. This may also be their way of praying to God in a very different style and manner.
if you happen to witness a preaching sheik in action, whether by hearing them preach or watching them put on a show to what appears to be nobody, keep in mind that you might be just the audience they are looking for.
Though alcohol and/or drugs may be involved in the sheik's sermon, they can do it completely sober. They simply choose to exercise their ability to talk outloud when and where they feel comfortable.
Guy#1: Did you see that dude drink a six pack all alone as he talked to himself for like an hour?
Guy#2: Lol, he didn't just talk bro, he danced and laughed at some pretty funny shit. By the way he was talking to whoever might be listening, he's a preaching sheik, not a nutcase.
Indeed ๐ Which leaves you still in the position of someone who believes humans evolve into hamburgers ๐ so I will take your criticism with a grain of salt ๐๐
What have I contributed ๐ค Total destruction of your 'argument ' in my opening statement ๐๐, the rest was merely defending attacks made by you and Stain against me ๐
You know my rules if you resort to snide remarks,sarcasm ,or insult you will get it back .
Why do you post a question up and only want people to agree with you ?
What IS IT YOU WANT ?
Bet you will fail to address even one part of my statement .
I always thought of it as nonsense. With their bushy beard and hair covers etc. But i never said anything untill now, even so, am not asking questions...just a brief talk.
That is respect.
And i expect people to threat christianity the same. No matter how ugly it looks to you, just be within your boundries.
Even former christians now atheists do not have that right.
Christianity survives on christ not strangers.
People interested in following christ only should enquire about christianity.
If otherwise, just mind your business. Ex. Atheism, Hinduism,Buddism etc.
The word is anti-theism, that has an obvious meaning. I looked it up on google and it doesn't give any special definition, it's just the general understanding.
Anti-Parasite, Anti-virus, Anti-democracy,Anti-christ, Anti-theism so what makes it so special or having understanding beyond general reasoning.
Meaning(according to me): Not belonging to any religious(or superstitious) beliefs association but your status as to you actually believe or not in such groups or deities can only be heard from you. So you just don't belong but doesn't determine your believe status.
If so, then to the point where my question still stands; why does an anti-theist need to find out about a religious group while outside it circles. Why would a hater like to know about me unless for use as a weapon against me.
The level of my faith can only be evidenced in how i handle life challenges(persevere,overcome,steadfast,quit,blaspheme,despair,be hopeful etc) words don't count, talk is cheap.
It is a tactic to provoke me into doing your bidding?
You know I can be very persuasive, right?
What do you want exactly?
Your soul.
tormenting nowasaint
Tormenting? I just asked him whether he is as certain as he pretends to be. I haven't even cared to check whether that idiot has blocked me after that, chimp. And I even stroked his worthless ignorance a bit.
I don't see you ever doing that with muslims and others
Because this website is dominated by those like you. It'd be idiotic, of the level of you and stain, to do that with muslims and others.
But I assure you, I hold no reservations for Islam.
And now you channel the hate towards christianity?
Of course not. Unless you've been following me, you've seen merely glimpses. Calling it "channeling" would be an exaggeration.
Consider it more of an implication.
If you are so tired of religion, why don't you finally declare to be atheist.
You mean, from an antitheist? From a Hindu? That's too vague.
There is nothing to be seen, you are just ill.
All the better if you refuse to see it. Because, I assure you, you'd never want to see it - at best, try under the influence of drugs that wouldn't let you remember it for long.
You need some meds. Go roast some quail.
I'm vegetarian - don't want those animals to be harmed.
Anyway, you don't get quail in my area.
I only need to install 1/8 of my memory and it will be enough for you to come to your senses and finally realise the factual truth
I only need to install traces of mine and it will be enough for you to realise the truth and jump off a cliff.
The level of my faith can only be evidenced in how i handle life challenges(persevere,overcome,steadfast,quit,blaspheme,despair,be hopeful etc) words don't count, talk is cheap.
So yet again one is to take from your inane rant that no argument is allowed ๐
๐ The supernatural birth of Jesus ... got ya ๐ Mary made love to a ghost ๐๐ป๐ป
You say ๐ I don't know how thick your head can get but am almost used to it ๐
๐ค Yes , but you see here is the problem we all cannot be a ' Ghanaian genius ' ๐ฑ๐ฟ๐ your recent ' ground breaking work '
I hear has caused a sensation ๐ณ In Ghana .
Congrats on the title ๐๐ ๐ On the origin of Hamburgers ๐
Which sets out the case ' beautifully ' that humans are worryingly ๐ณ Evolving into ๐๐ ๐๐๐
Also congrats again ๐๐ on ' coming out ' on a public forum I was very emotional as I read the ' good news ' ๐ช ๐๐ i hope you and ๐ฑ๐ฟAnd him ๐ฎ are very happy together ๐๐๐
BEHOLD! The lord himself did not write the Bible. BEHOLD! It was written centuries after the alternative facts! BEHOLD! The Bible's PARTS were originally written in either ancient Hebrew or Aramaic, on stone, Papyrus, etc. sometimes only fragments of which survived. This was interpreted and written several times BY HAND (many people don't write legibly), then translated into ancient Greek and copied several times by hand (legibly?), then again translated into Latin and copied by hand (hopefully legibly), several times and then "translated" (again), into Elizabethan English and printed! (With opportunities for error and confusion at every single stage!) Now it reads like a bad acid trip, and I suspect it always did!
How anyone can believe it word for word after all that I cannot imagine.
If only the original author would show up and (hopefully S/HE/IT can speak English) and un-confuse this confusion, I'll consider the facts (not the alternate facts we may have today)! Follow that author? Not unless s/he/it can justify s/he/it's cruelty I see every day ... sorry, I'd rather be punished for my humane feelings. Hmmmmm, there MUST be a "humane religion" someplace! This one is soooo unlike ... what is he called? ... Jesus.
BEHOLD! The lord himself did not write the Bible. BEHOLD! It was written centuries after the alternative facts! BEHOLD! The Bible's PARTS were originally written in either ancient Hebrew or Aramaic, on stone, Papyrus, etc. sometimes only fragments of which survived. This was interpreted and written several times BY HAND (many people don't write legibly), then translated into ancient Greek and copied several times by hand (legibly?), then again translated into Latin and copied by hand (hopefully legibly), several times and then "translated" (again), into Elizabethan English and printed! (With opportunities for error and confusion at every single stage!) Now it reads like a bad acid trip, and I suspect it always did!
How anyone can believe it word for word after all that I cannot imagine.
If only the original author would show up and (hopefully S/HE/IT can speak English) and un-confuse this confusion, I'll consider the facts (not the alternate facts we may have today)! Follow that author? Not unless s/he/it can justify s/he/it's cruelty I see every day ... sorry, I'd rather be punished for my humane feelings. Hmmmmm, there MUST be a "humane religion" someplace! This one is soooo unlike ... what is he called? ... Jesus.
I will admit, YOUR "shit" is not baseless. IT is based on a book, that is based on the campfire tales of camel jockeys and goat herders, who, for centuries, told the tales as they heard them, with embellishments, as most of us do today when we try to remember a joke. Finally, someone (Constantine) decided to condense the "stories" into book form. ;-0
Isn't this the carpenter? Isn't this Mary's son and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas and Simon? Aren't his sisters here with us?" And they took offense at him.
Matthew 13:55 โบ
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas
56Aren't all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?"