According to common practice, islamic laws dictate that female must have her Menzies in order to have sex with her.

HOWEVER, muhammad was the prophet of islam, he could do no wrong as evidenced in the koran, (his testimonies) and the hadiths. (testimonies about him)

He married his 3rd wife at 6, canceling a marriage in place, this was illegal.

At Aysha's house when she was 9, her mother took her from her swing and friends to give her to the prophet and he bedded her later.

NO mention of menzies were made, only Ayshas testimony in hadith that the prophet did so because there was but a single blanket between them.

MUD MAN WAS A PEDO

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The problem with the "things were different then" defense is that it suggests that mans laws, customs and moralities take priority to Gods will. If Mohammad was indeed man of God, he would be subject to Allah's will, not the sick customs of the time.

He slept with a 9 year old. He is technically a pedophile, whether you (whoever) choose to excuse it or not.

"that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old"

Yes, he had sex with a 9 year old.

To say that things were different then is totally illogical when we are talking about gods morality. Are we saying that gods morality can change now? How is this possible if he is perfect?

At that time people might have thought getting busy with a child was permissible, but we know this practice today as pedophilia.

He was a man over 50, she was only 9. Cultural backwardness or not, we MODERN humans think of this as --pedophilia.

I am sure that all pedo's can't be fit into a neat one-size-fits-all stereotype.

The definition of "pedophilia" is harshly challenged, and the definition provided by the DSM-IV is considered null, backed by very little evidence, and purely political (see Green, 2002; Moser & Kleinplatz, 2003; Spitzer, 2005). If we are to define pedophilia solely as one's internal sexual desires, we have absolutely no way of testing this since no empirical evidence about Mohammad's sexual orientation (pedophilia or lack thereof) exists.

Therefore we have only the "prophet's" actions to go by. And if we are to consider his rape of a nubile, defenseless child: Yes, Mohammad was a pedophile. Even though he had other wives, this does not somehow outweigh these obviously pedophilic acts (if we go are defining "pedophilia" on one's actions, the only empirical evidence afforded to us in this situation). We are forced to choose one or the other in this scenario, pedophile or not, and defining him as a "pedophile" is the most intellectually honest choice in the situation.

We have NOW, in 2008, some 40 000 "active-religions" on Earth. Some of them "very old", the original "ancestor-religion" having a lot of "daughter-religions". Around the same amount of 40 000 religions "died" through humanity history.

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I have studied DEEPLY some 400 "active-religions" in 30 years.

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The invention of a religion is quite always the same : the delirium of the inventor, that he transmits to his "believers". The delirium is quite simple: there is a god, and the inventor is the only person (very humble modest suffering person) that is/was in contact with god.

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The inventor, so elected by god, as a very difficult task (given by god of course...) : to guide humanity to the "laws" invented... by the inventor.

The inventor being "just a human", he convinces only some people around (the believers), and not the whole humanity (where other inventors and believers are at work).

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The task of the believers is simple:

- create other believers

- add more brain to the invention

- mainly, mainly, increase the "godness level" of the inventor; because if (shitt...) the inventor is seen as a fool/idiot/criminal/liar, all this religion and believers are are... the same.

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It may be said that the nazism is the religion invented by Hitler.

It may be said that the islam is the religion invented by muhamamad

It may be said that the christianism is the religion invented by PAUL.

etc.

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As the inventor (and believers) are in reality simple limited humans, it is very easy to laugh/criticise the "invention". The inventor and believers invent rather fast the mystery/anathema/excomunication/sin tool to kill (by words or by sword, bullet...) the so called... unbelievers.

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In humanity the TWO "religious books" that teach to the believers that they must deeply hate unbelievers are "Mein Kampf", ant the "Kuran".

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When studying DEEPLY the real biography of the muhammad guy, it is evident that he belongs to the most criminal inventors... Absolutely no respect of life, delirium a high level, superiority complex, etc. etc.

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Criminals have a way to see reality rather differently : what they do IS NOT A CRIME, it is the only correct behaviour.

Unbelievers/police/judges do not understand the criminal, who (see Hitler) has the "mission" to fulfil his mission.

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And, as his power increases, in his brain, the word "crime" does not apply to him.

Muhammad's biography is the highest example of a criminal "religion inventor".

He was (as Hitler) above anybody, above any law, just following the "law of god" dictated by his own brain.

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It was for him easy to impress any children; mainly children whose parents where believers. To be "near the prophet" was an honour. To be in his bed... a blessing.

As Hitler, the muhammad guy showed permanently that the only think he respected... was himself, and his invention.

So for him, to fuck children was as normal as drinking water.

His profile is the one of the criminal pedophiles we see.

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He was a pedophile...

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And in a lot of regions where the charia is applied, women and children are merely tools/toys. Just totally respecting.. the religion...

If Muhammad took his THIRD wife, who was only 6 and bedded with her that night what does that make him, A PEDOPHILE. And no where in his book states that this is wrong because HE wrote about how his life. Making it seem like it was not a bad thing to bone a 6 year old. what a sick fuck

Yes. There's not much to this, he had sex with a 9 year old. That makes him a pedophile.

Yes. It certainly was more common to go for women younger at this time period. But there are certain things taken to an extreme, if you are taking a prepubescent girl for your wife, you are a pedo.

I just read a series of apologetics articles about Mohamed. Something I've always find quite evident about Islam strike me while I was reading. We know very little about the culture in which Mohamed was living. Saying it was a common practise for a mature man to marry a young girl is very presumptuous. I am more incline to think that most human society do abide to natural taboos - that make incest and paedophilia outrageous and deviant. An immature girl is much more likely to die in labour as her body is not ready to deliver a baby, making this a very unproductive marriage. Unless there are serious historical or archaeological data in favour of a pre-islamic culture that made paedophilia a normative behaviour, I would tend to believe that Mohamed behaved more or less like a cult leader. He might have adopted unnatural behaviour to increase/maintain his stature and power toward his community. More important is how modern Muslims interpret this behaviour. Do they reject it as immoral in a modern society that has shown evidences of psychological and physical trauma linked to an underage girl being forced into sexual intercourse or do they abide to the example of their prophet as part of his perfection that should not be dismissed - in fear of dismissing Islam as a whole. The point with Islam nowadays always come down to this: how modern do Muslim want to be? Other religions are more coherent about this issue though they all go through a strong resistance from their radical wing.

Yes he was! Just look that the religion he founded! One guy can have like 5 wives! And they aren't allowed to show their faces too! Because he was too insecure to see their faces. That's why!

The girl was 8.5 year old and was practically raped and couldn't have children afterwards because of the damage. Mohammad had twenty women in his harem but preferred the child and the other women used to comment they weren't getting too much attention.

It is wrong to say the things were different than because before islam women had equal rights and some even had male harems even if many will deny this. Islam was enforced by sword and it is no wonder arabs and other islamic pople converted forcibly, once very advanced in algebra and philosophy never made any scientific advances.

After islam, male harems and slavery also spread and it began with mohammad and passed as a legacy to latter caliphs and ottoman sultans too.

Yeah, and he was probably also into sheep and camels. No pun intended ;)

yes he was a pedo

I've seen a lot of people say that things were different back then however, 9 yrs old was still 9 yrs old back then, at the very least you could go by the hebrew definition of being at age which is 13 yrs old and even by that standard 9 is still wrong.

Mohammad (pbuh) lived in a time when people were more divided into small groups; tribal allegiances were incredibly important, and marriage was a way of cementing that. A ceremony involving two groups, followed by a symbolic joining of the two would speed diplomacy and prevent immediate hostilities. Mohammed's marriages were mostly planned to help him spread Islam; his first marriage was one of love, and he had no other wives until Khadijah's death. I could rant a bit more, but I'll sum up why I feel the answer here is a "no": The 'Mohammad was a paedophile" argument is most often wielded by those who wish to discredit Islam in order to further their own religion's standing, and is only taken at face value in communities where any attack on a foreign religion would succeed no matter what. I'm not for any religion, but this argument is one I see as a bit of a low blow. If you wish to discredit a person's beliefs, examine their personal beliefs; taking the actions of a past member, no matter how important, and attacking them out of context is not sound and shows desperation and an inability to find weaknesses in the individual's convictions.

Muhammad(PBUH) lived in a totally different time. Children matured early (by 6 or 7, they were fully grown women). The little girls wanted to be women and the men of the time new exactly how to make their wishes come true.

Curse the person whom created this debate, and those whom agreed.!@!@$@#%$^$%&^%&^

Taking all the various pieces of evidence into consideration, the conclusion of the investigation is that the nikah of Aishah (May Allah Be Pleased with Her) to the Prophet SAAW took place when she was around 16-17 years old, and not 6; and her marriage was solemnized when she was 19 and not 9. The Prophet died when she was 28, not 18; and she became one of the leading scholars and teachers of Islam, giving aid and advice to the subsequent Caliphs.

She lived in widowhood some 40 years, and died in 50 AH/672 CE at the age of 67.

Abu Bakr May Allah Be Pleased with Him, married two women in the pre-Islamic era, who gave birth to four children. Abdullah and Asma were by Qatilah, while Abdur Rahman and Aishah were by Umm Ruman bint Amir. All these children were born before the advent of Islam’.

The Prophet SAAW was singularly used to a marital relationship with Khadija May Allah Be Pleased With Her, an older woman – since his sole partner for some twenty-five years was at least fifteen years older than himself. The Prophet did not remarry until he was over fifty, and when he was fifty his beloved Khadijah was sixty-five!.

# The Prophet married Aisha primarily for three reasons:

# To reinforce the friendly relations already existing with Abu Bakr (his closest companion).

# To educate and train Aisha so she may serve the purposes of Islam.

# To teach her to utilize her capabilities for the sake of Islam.

# Her Marriage with the prophet was a Wahi (Divine Revelation). She, herself relates from the Prophet, ‘He said, “I saw you in dreams three times. The angel brought you to me and you were clad in white silk. He (the angel) said that it was your consort and he (angel) showed me by opening your face. You are just like that…” Sahih Muslim, Vol.2, p.285.

# Aisha ® was born after her parents had embraced Islam. Therefore, she was free from the defilement of polytheism right from her birth.

# In her youth, already known for her striking beauty and her formidable memory, she came under the loving care and attention of the Prophet himself. As his wife and close companion she acquired from him knowledge and insight such as no woman has ever acquired.

Aishah lived on almost fifty years after the passing away of the Prophet. She had been his wife for a decade. Much of this time was spent in learning and acquiring knowledge of the two most important sources of God’s guidance, the Quran and the Sunnah of His Prophet. Aishah ® was one of the three wives (the other two being Hafsa ® and Umm Salamah ®) who memorized the Revelation. Like Hafsa ®, she had her own script of the Quran written after the Prophet had died.

# So far as the Hadith or sayings of the Prophet is concerned, Aishah ® is one of four persons (the others being Abu Hurrah, Abdullah ibn Umar, and Ana ibn Malik) who transmitted more than two thousand sayings. From her, 2210 Hadith have come, out of which 174 Hadith are commonly agreed upon by both Bukhari and Muslim. Many of her transmissions pertain to some of the most intimate aspects of personal behavior which only someone in Aishah’s position could have learnt. What is most important is that her knowledge of Hadith was passed on in written form by at least three persons including her nephew Urwah who became one of the greatest scholars among the generation after the Companions. It is the claim of the Scholars of Islam that without her, half of the Ilm-I-Hadith [knowledge, understanding of the Hadith (and Islam)] would have perished.

# Many of the learned companions of the Prophet and their followers benefited from Aishah’s knowledge. Abu Musa al-Ashari once said: “If we companions of the Messenger of God had any difficulty on a matter, we asked Aisha about it.”

“Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from Said ibn al-Musayyab that Abu Musa al-Ashari came to Aishah, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and said to her, “The disagreement of the companions in a matter which I hate to bring before you has distressed me.” She said, “What is that? You did not ask your mother about it, so ask me.” He said, “A man penetrates his wife, but becomes listless and does not ejaculate. “She said, “When the circumcised part passes the circumcised part ghusl is obligatory.” Abu Musa added, “I shall never ask anyone about this after you.” Al-Muwatta of Imam Malik Hadith 2.75

Arwa Bin Zubair says, “I did not find anyone more proficient (than Aisha ®) in the knowledge of the Holy Quran, the Commandments of Halal (lawful) and Haram (prohibited), Ilmul-Ansab and Arabic poetry. That is why, even senior companions of the Prophet used to consult Aisha ® in resolving intricate issued“.Jala-ul-Afham by Ibn Qaiyem and Ibn Sa’ad, Vol.2, p.26

Abu Musa al-Ashari says: “Never had we (the companions) had any difficulty for the solution of which we approached Aisha and did not get some useful information from her“.Sirat-I-Aisha, on the authority of Trimidhi, pg. 163

# As a teacher she had a clear and persuasive manner of speech and her power of oratory has been described in superlative terms by al-Ahnaf who said: “I have heard speeches of Abu Bakr and Umar, Uthman and Ali and the Khulafa up to this day, but I have not heard speech more persuasive and more beautiful from the mouth of any person than from the mouth of Aishah.”

The Prophet said, “The superiority of ‘Aisha to other ladies is like the superiority of Tharid (i.e. meat and bread dish) to other meals. Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except Mary, the daughter of Imran and Asia, the wife of Pharaoh.” Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith, Narrated by Abu Musa Al Ashari Hadith 4.643

Musa Ibn Talha ® says, “I did not see anyone more eloquent than Aisha ®” Mustadrak of Hakim, Vol.4,p.11

# Men and women came from far and wide to benefit from her knowledge.

Aisha’s great interest in the study of the Qur’an is understandable. She was an eye-witness to a number of revelations and had therefore a clear idea of the circumstances in which they were revealed. It was on her bed alone (and no other consort’s) that the Prophet received Wahi (Divine Revelations) several times. This helped her in interpreting the verses.

# At the time of the Prophet’s death, the Prophet’s head was on her lap. It was in her quarters that the Prophet was buried.

The life of Aishah (R) is a proof that a woman can be far more learned than men and that she can be the teacher of scholars and experts. Her life is also a proof that a woman can exert influence over men and women and provide them with inspiration and leadership. Aisha (R) is a continuing inspiration and role model to today’s youth who are diligently searching for an example amongst the pop stars, movie actresses and sports stars. May the memory of her’s live forever in the heart of the Muslim Ummah and may Allah grant her the highest abode in Paradise…Aameen.

“I have studied him – the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.” George Bernard Shaw, THE GENUINE ISLAM, Vol. 1, No. 81936.

“It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher.”

Annie Besant, THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD, Madras, 1932, p. 4.

Through the centuries, Kuffar have advance numerous accusations and far-fetched theories to discredit Islam and its last Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him). Praise be to Allah alone, all such accusations have been successfully refuted by the Muslim Ummah. Currently, one of the ‘reinvented’ accusations against the noble character of the Prophet is about his marriage to young Aisha Siddiqa ®. Which although we have clarified, but they are just committing kufr cos they are kafir by nature.

when you don’t know anything , you should refrain from making any kind of comments.You are nothing but, a cheap copy of the misguided souls, a bit more common in the western countries and, whatever you are saying appears to be nothing but, an effort to look like them.The only thing that people like you, have learned from the west, is the excessive use of foul language and, you feel more’western’ by being more foul-mouthed.I don’t think any muslim, should even bother to reply to anymore, since you have no knowledge and, it’s unfortunate that you don’t even want to know anything. Simply put, you’re too sub-standard and therefore, from now on, should not even be found worth replying to!

No. The word pedophile wasn't coined until the 1800's, Muhammad was alive in the 500-600's. So technically he wasn't a pedophile, just a man who had sex with children, which back then wasn't as frowned upon as it is now.

(Keep in mind this argument isn't totally serious, he is a pedophile for our time)

Was Maria artificially impregnated?? I mean come on how else could a virgin have a child. That angel from Bible must have been a messenger from the future that performed the operation.

Ye keep judging religious texts literally and based on modern morale and stuff.

That makes a lot of sense.

There is zero evidence that Muhammad was attracted to little boys, or little girls. If anything he had more than one wife on occasion, but became truly in love with one woman.

dude i swear to allah she told me she was 18

No more so than Isaac who married Rebeka when she was 3 (according to Rashi). It is inappropriate to apply modern morality to an ancient culture (and vice versa).

You are all so knowledable about all the facts, aren't you? You really LOVE to believe some Daniel Pearl or any bullshit historian when he speaks through his ass like that. If this were true, I doubt that Muhammad would be considered a prophet and revered by billions of people till today. If you would actually make the effort to learn about Islam, and learn about this prohet's life, you would much rather regret your perverted assumptions, than fester the filth that resides in your hearts and minds.