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AOK I have a problem with it
Debate Score:37
Arguments:29
Total Votes:48
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Western Cultural Superiority

People will rail against those who think their groups ways are superior in general to those of other groups, while perhaps failing to notice their own cultural superiority complex. Are you one of THEM?

AOK

Side Score: 27
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I have a problem with it

Side Score: 10

Tribalism is actually a biological survival instinct. The left wants to point to science, yet is quick to avoid science in order to promote 48 new genders and call anyone with discernment a bigot rather than a person who's survival instincts work. My culture is superior in that we found a way to legally create casinos everywhere while it being illegal for all other groups.

Side: AOK
atypican(4873) Disputed
1 point

So you think your culture, (by virtue of the superiority you suppose it has) should enjoy rights that others do not?

Must tribalism involve considering other groups generally inferior?

Side: I have a problem with it
1 point

Nope. We created tribes, and see everyone else as simply not a part of our tribe. It has nothing to do with value of particular peoples, but simply value that one is in our tribe, and they alone are "us", and they alone are our responsibility. Are you responsible for people not in your family, to feed them, shelter them, etc in your home? We didn't tell anyone to sail across the ocean and invade our lands or to immigrate to our lands. We currently see opportunities afforded to us due to our tribal affiliations, and will use all available resources to protect the interests of our particular tribes. The modern White man could learn a lot from us about protecting your own. If you don't protect your own, you disappear, and you lose in the end.

Some groups are inferior because of the dogmas they adhere to or their inability to protect themselves from threats that seek to destroy them.

Side: AOK
2 points

If all cultures are equal, why aren't people knocking down doors to get into Iraq, Somalia, and Venezuela? They are not equal, western culture is superior.

Side: AOK
Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

If all cultures are equal, why aren't people knocking down doors to get into Iraq, Somalia, and Venezuela?

Because culture is not the same thing as economy. Think it through once in your life.

Side: I have a problem with it
foratag(247) Disputed
1 point

Their economy sucks because their culture sucks. I think everything through. How old are you. I hope like 12, because if you are an adult I really feel for the ones around you. Have a great day.

Side: AOK
1 point

Places with crap cultures have crap economies. Somalia's culture? Crap. Their economy? Crap. Afghanistan's culture? Crap. Their economy? Crap. Libya's culture is crap. Their economy? Crap.

Side: AOK

http://terpconsulting.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Hard-Rock-Hotel-Casino-Catoosa-Oklahoma.jpg

https://www.casinosavenue.com/upload/photoCasino/4649 catoosa-hard-rock-tulsa-casino.jpeg

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/1b/f1ba28da-b9b4-5302-9ff2-8a3e99afbbd2/540e7fc4c1d84.image.jpg

http://visitcherokeenation.com/SiteCollectionImages/Attractions/HARD%20ROCK.jpg

See that? That's a Casino called the "Hard Rock Casino". Guess why it's allowed in the state of Oklahoma. The Cherokees own it. Our tribes have used White guilt to the maximum that it can be used and will continue to do so, seeing Whites are willing to put up with it or feel obligated to do it, and why shouldn't we? Apparently we are "superior" because it's us that are getting our way, and doing whatever we have to do to protect our tribes, while Whites split into factions and attack each other like animals, unlike any other race or culture.

Now scroll down to the bottom of this link and look at the copyright.

http://www.hardrockcasinotulsa.com/the-joint-tulsa/

We have free healthcare, free medicine, free food, and have a higher minimum wage, paid for by the Federal Government and Casino money. Isn't that a daisy?

And we were exempt from the penalty that the Affordable Care Act enacted on those who failed to get insurance.

---"The Cherokee Nation is funded by the federal government at about half its actual health care operational need. Remaining costs are billed to third-party insurers for patients with private insurance or Medicare or Medicaid. Remaining costs are paid out of pocket by the tribe."

http://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories/102113-Cherokee-Nation-on-Affordable-Care-Act

That's which culture is superior. Now back to our regular scheduled program...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ListofcasinosinOklahoma

Side: AOK
Atrag(5211) Clarified
2 points

Downvote correction from using Negligentt and Smelly Bella Account.

Side: AOK
Antrim(999) Clarified
1 point

It's good for everyone, that even though they were 'not told to do so', the Pilgrim Fathers and the ensuing millions of European settlers sailed across the ocean and established their culture(s) in the territories of the Cherokees and the many other tribes in a land now known as the United States of America.

Having 'appropriated' their land the state aided healthcare and other social benefits for the Cherokees must represent the best deal for the ''The White Tribe'' in the history of trading arrangements.

Side: AOK
1 point

I think the problem with words like superiority, good, right, and inferior, bad, evil is that all they really mean is "what I want" and "what I want not", respectively. Obviously, we draw our values from our own cultures, so we tend to see our own cultures as superior, good, right, etc.

However, it is undeniable that there are aspects of Western/Euro-American culture, and even more so, products of that culture, that are popular and desired worldwide by people of disparate cultures with vastly different beliefs and value systems.

The technological, social, and economic situation of industrialized nations are the results of the capitalist free market economy and the scientific principles founded on the intellectual products of the Classical periods (Greek and Roman), the European Renaissance, the Age of Reason, and the resulting industrial and technological developmental eras.

- If you want average lifespans over 70, then Western science is what you want.

- If you want infant mortality rates less than 40-50%, then you have to go with Western cultural models and the resulting nutritional and medical technologies.

- If you want plentiful food, which can be produced so efficiently that only 2-5% of the population is required to provide more nutrition than the society can consume, then Western agricultural technology is what you want.

- If you want better (though admittedly imperfect) protection from despotism, then the constitutional republic (invented in and developed by Western Culture) is your best bet.

- If you want freedom from widespread institutionalized, government-sanctioned slavery, then you would do well to go with the culture that actually made it illegal. (Yep, Europe and America.)

- If you want the widespread wealth, convenience, and near-infinite possibilities created by invention and innovation, then Western free market capitalism is the vehicle that will take you there.

- If you want personal mobility of class, status, and income, then you want to live in a society governed by Western social and economic models that reward individual effort and ability.

These are not the only things to want, but they are some of the most popular worldwide. It is important to note they are all the products of liberal democracy, formal logic, the scientific method, and free market capitalism, every one of which is an invention of Western culture.

Indications worldwide are that food, health, wealth, and freedom are almost universally valued, even if many of the specific collateral results prove to be disappointing to some cultures.

Side: AOK
1 point

Indications worldwide are that food, health, wealth, and freedom are almost universally valued, even if many of the specific collateral results prove to be disappointing to some cultures.

Side: AOK
1 point

Hello again, a:

I dunno what you call superior. The Jews have been around for 6,000 years. They've survived slavery, the Pharaoh, the Red Sea, Goliath and the holocaust.. Jews are the TOP scientists, the TOP actors, the TOP lawyers, the TOP in academia, and they RUN the banks.. Not only that, one of 'em is god to millions and millions of people..

Other than that, they're just regular folk.

excon

Side: AOK

Other cultures can't even compete.

Side: AOK
1 point

I'm not really sure I can think of a culture comparable in virtue to western liberal democracies, can you?

Side: AOK
Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

I'm not really sure I can think of a culture comparable in virtue to western liberal democracies, can you?

You live in a western liberal democracy and have been brainwashed with its cultural values, so it's hardly surprising that you would think that, is it?

Side: I have a problem with it
WinstonC(864) Disputed
1 point

Let's assume that I have been brainwashed to believe it's values are superior. Please point me to a culture comparable in virtue and thereby actually address my point.

Side: AOK
1 point

when colonizers traveled with huge ships and firearms, they were faced by cannibals with primative tools. today you can go to Haiti or Iraq and find sexist, underdeveloped cultures. American culture is to developed that we pay about 22% of the UN bill.

Side: AOK
2 points

they find their culture superior

but other cultures are also superior to theres in one way or another

Side: I have a problem with it
1 point

Cultures that practice blood rituals by cutting their children with knives are not superior to anything other than the chop your nuts off tribe.

Side: AOK
marcusmoon(247) Clarified
0 points

Would you please give some specific examples of what cultures and aspects you are talking about. It helps the discussion.

Side: AOK
2 points

if you got back into history you will see time upon time again of whites pushing their religion and beliefs onto other cultures because they believed they were superior. When Europe invaded African and forced them to covert while trying to ban some of their religious activities. Europeans came into America and had some of the indians convert too. But these days, i dont see people acting all righteous and like their superior to others. i believe those days are clearly written in textbooks about our past though

Side: I have a problem with it
1 point

Hello again, a:

I'll buy that western culture is ADVANCED.. I do NOT buy that it is SUPERIOR..

excon

Side: I have a problem with it
1 point

Then what the hell do you think the word "superior" means exactly Con? You can't give us some abstract or objective answer either Con. You believe in nothing, remember?

Side: AOK