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 What Have We Learned in 2,065 Years? (16)

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What Have We Learned in 2,065 Years?

 

 

**"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."** - Cicero , 55 BC

 

 

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Evidently nothing. ; )

3 points

Pfft...

http://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/?p=5543

"[The quote] is attributed to the the author Taylor Caldwell, page 483 of the 1965 Doubleday edition of the novel Pillar of Iron – where the central character is Cicero."

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"[The quote] is attributed to the the author Taylor Caldwell, page 483 of the 1965 Doubleday edition of the novel Pillar of Iron – where the central character is Cicero."

I suspected as much..

2 points

Not much. *

Not much, except for how to kill each other more efficiently.

Regarding the issue of debt, part of the human condition seems to include the want to work as little as possible. We aren't any better off than we were when slavery existed, (centuries ago type of slavery). Many are born into captivity. You don't even need to conisder financial deficits, evidence abounds regarding certain synchronicities pertaining to free people born as slaves using identification numbers etc...

More generally, we work against powerful people regarding history. Records are secretly kept and public records are periodically burned. Fortunately, everything we need to know exists today, the knowledge that we fucked up in the past clearly isn't a deterrent, so we can learn lessons by looking outside. By the way, work harder isn't a solution since within our lives we couldn't fix the system.

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1 point

The modern method of getting rid of documents is shreding, not burning ;)

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Ama_Deviant(272) Disputed
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You disputed to say that? I used the word burn for effect. And yes, they pile up secret documents in the woods on the winter solstice, set fire to the heap, paint their bodies and dance around naked then have sex with each other.

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It is a revisionist quote, but there are similarities between now and then. Rome often had a problem of ships arriving full of goods and leaving largely empty, that is, Rome also had the problem of having a huge trade deficit. That this "Cicero" does not mention trade is most telling. Latifundium comes to mind too.

A trade deficit leads to higher unemployment. Higher unemployment leads to a high government deficit (and monetary action in modern times). In short, the quotation misses the (causal) key variable. If you want to go after the government deficit, you should attack the trade deficit directly.

The economic graphs link the trade deficit to unemployment and the economy. With oil shocks (a trade deficit problem) the effect is immediate. Otherwise the effect may lag for one or two years, but it still happens.

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