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 What are your opinions on abortion? (5)

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What are your opinions on abortion?

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I think abortion is murder. That debate has brought up a lot go good points on both sides. I strongly believe in this topic.

FabianGordon(25) Disputed
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No. Murder is the killing of a human being, a cluster of cells is not a human being. A fertilised egg is not a human being. These laws are based on the abstract concept of life anyway, you cannot try and make it more abstract by trying to call some cells, which themselves are arrangement of proteins with no conscious thoughts, a living thing.

People argue that there are stages in the development of a foetus that when gone past, classify it as living, and anywhere past or close to this time would indeed constitute murder. These checkpoints in growth can be development of a central nervous system, a beating heart, a brain, electrical activity in the brain, or a theoretical point where the child would be able to survive independently. The problem with this is that it is utterly impossible to try and draw lines like and I shall explain why: Let's say that we do draw a line, say at the development of a central nervous system, firstly what is the CNS, there are different views of what it actually would be when first developed, but even ignoring this, what if this line of age is crossed meaning abortion at this point is now murder - are you really saying that just a week earlier it was not abortion, it was something else? How about a day, what if just one day earlier an abortion was carried out, we are to say that that was not murder but one day later it is, all because a few thousand cells grew in a specific place? Who are we to say which stage of development defines life, and how can we even say when a few grains of sand turns into a "pile" so to speak, there is no point after which it is murder and before it is not.

I also however would argue against the belief that there are indeed no lines and that all abortion is murder. This is simply false, as aforementioned, a fertilised egg is not life, not even close to life. The only thing that you can argue is that it has potential for life, but if this is believed then you would believe that all egg and sperm cells have potential for life, and thus the menstrual cycle when a women is not fertilised is now immoral? Then also you run into the issue of a definition for potential for life, could an instance be potential for life, would having protected sex or not having sex at all contradict this law of not killing potential for life? Therefore no abortion is murder, and while this may be believed, there are often circumstances where the act of killing something which could be life at some point is certainly the right thing, not only because a mother has domain over her body, but there are important socioeconomic issues often that cannot be ignored.

I believe that the abortion week limits can be put in place for humanitarian reasons not due to development progression. But that's not the debate, remember it is is abortion murder, and i remain my stance that it is not murder. While these caps being puts on as a guarantee that no foetuses suffer is the case, that is irrelevant to the debate at hand because it is one of whether it is murder or not rather than whether it is legal or not. So I believe that it is still not murder until self-sustaining life has developed, but since this point cannot be determined then abortion cannot be said to ever be murder

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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Let me guess, you are but one of the millions of dead beat men who want to sleep around and never worry about having to use a condom or supporting the baby you created.

Isn't self love wonderful where we can sacrifice innocent life for sake of self?

This topic would feed right into the topic of how people who think they are good, are actually barbaric with the humanity of animals.

Lets see, you are excusing the killing of innocent viable babies with the ludicrous reasoning that no one can know the exact day the Baby is viable, SO KILL THEM ALL!

Inhuman selfish people such as yourself would never use the rationale that since we don't know the exact day the baby becomes viable, we will err on the side of life and outlaw abortions past a certain time when we know no baby has ever survived.(unless extreme cases such as life of mother)

Nah, people like you have no thought of moral values and the sanctity of life.

Let me guess, you are young and probably voted for Hillary or Bernie? From what I am seeing of our younger generation, America is headed for real problems. You are all about self love and the anything goes no fault, no accountability mentality.

Victorgonbu(1) Disputed
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abortion is a murder?, i dont think so, i have seen many people strongly against abortion and they really don't care about killing Insects, eat other animals, slaughterhouses but they care about abortion, that's because they aren't from their specie, but the real argument is having a child is not easy, if you decide to keep your child and if you are a person that doesn't have much money and you cant allow that, you are gonna live you and your child like indigents because you couldn't give him basic amenities, you cant obligate someone to have a Unwanted child doesn't matter if i was a violation or for a simple "neglect" because everybody once in their life have got a "neglect", actually i think that if you wanna have a child have to be wanted, because if you obligate someone to have a unwanted child You are condemning her or him to a hate environment.

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Personally, I believe in a women's right to terminate a child before it is born, but only before a certain point. I believe if the fetus is going to be terminated, it should be done in the first few weeks of pregnancy, before it can feel or think anything.