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He PROTECTED the students He HID like a cowering dog
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 He PROTECTED the students (3)
 
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What did the ARMED deputy DO when the shooting started at the Florida high school?

Hello:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/armed-guard-duty-florida-school-shooting-never-went-093208213.html

Certainly, armed teachers would do a better job than a TRAINED DEPUTY who's only JOB at that high school was to protect the students.   

True???

excon

He PROTECTED the students

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He HID like a cowering dog

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1 point

I can't say he protected the students and I can't say he hid like a dog. It's probable he was waiting for back up, it's probable that he DIDN'T have a semi-automatic and would have been shot down before he could do anything but it's also possible he could have been a hero. Arming teachers is..... there have been a few instances where a teacher has accidentally set off their weapons in a class but thank God hasn't hurt a student....yet. Teachers aren't trained for offense or defense and they aren't paid nearly enough to do so. It's an option, sure, but not a good one.

Side: He PROTECTED the students
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

It's probable he was waiting for back up

Hello again, Mint:

Oh, I'm sure in his head, that's what he was doing.. But his ONLY job was to protect the students - NOT act as a telephone operator..

My point is, that if an ARMED, TRAINED, police officer won't confront danger head on, why would we think teachers would?

excon

Side: He HID like a cowering dog
Mint_tea(4641) Clarified
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My point is, that if an ARMED, TRAINED, police officer won't confront danger head on, why would we think teachers would?

That's a fair point but even armed and trained police officers need to know what's going on before they go in guns blazing. They also may need to wait for back up or the best they can do is be part of the body count.

Don't get me wrong, if that was my child he should have been protecting I would be out for blood that he didn't do anything, I'm just trying to see his side to it.

Side: He PROTECTED the students
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Now Super Stupid i will ask the question again !

Washington,DC politicians are protected by armed security.

Are they more important than children ?

Side: He PROTECTED the students
4 points

Everyone would like to think they would have faced up the madman with his lethal assault rifle, but can we all be sure?

Maybe the officer froze with fear and confusion.

Perhaps, despite previous school outrages police officers STILL need to be better trained in how to handle such a catastrophic incident.

Being as generous as I can I feel that this officer's conduct fell disgracefully short of what we expected.

I train in my gym with a number of fire fighters and am aware that before being allowed in the the Fire Service candidates must pass a well managed suitability test to evaluate their, instant response to highly dangerous, spontaneous life saving situations without hesitation'

Hesitate for a split second whether to run over a blazing well secured plank or any other hazardous trial and it's next please.

My amateur attempt at offering an outline, prototype solution is as follows.

1) Ban all warfare type weaponry including assault rifles.

2)Only rifles capable of a single shot before reloading should be issued to suitable, well and positively vetted firearm license applicants.

This type of rifle can be used for competitive target shooting and for THE VERY BRAVE!!!, game hunting.

3) Personal protection weapons should be restricted to non automatic six shot revolver type weapons with a maximum calibre of .38.

If you can't disable your potential assailant with six bullets you're your toast.

Every such P.P.W. should have its ballistic fingerprint recorded by the supplier who should be required to have a firing range available and staffed by trained personnel.

A top limit of 25 rounds of non expanding ammunition to be issued to each weapon.

Anyone claiming to have fired off 25 rounds on one or more incident(s) should be viewed with a jaundiced eye and investigated.

A buy back amnesty should be introduced for all those with existing firearms along with an in-depth criminal and psychological profile on each and every owner.

This BLOODY CARNAGE OF OUR CHILDREN AND INNOCENT CIVILIANS WILL HAVE TO END

Side: He HID like a cowering dog
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@Antrim

Perhaps, despite previous school outrages police officers STILL need to be better trained in how to handle such a catastrophic incident.

It has been shown that Police officers with a Military background are overwhelmingly superior in such situations. So, yes, more involved training is very important

Side: He HID like a cowering dog
NumberOne(422) Disputed
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It has been shown that Police officers with a Military background are overwhelmingly superior in such situations.

Not arming the killer also works. Have you tried that?

Side: He PROTECTED the students

If he hid or ran, it's a pretty damn good thing that I was armed because apparently he wasn't doing shit to protect me.

Side: He HID like a cowering dog