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42
71
God Ghosts
Debate Score:113
Arguments:39
Total Votes:141
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 God (17)
 
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What do you believe in more God or Ghosts?

God

Side Score: 42
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Ghosts

Side Score: 71
3 points

If there are ghosts, there is a god. Right? We cannot prove either, but if we were to assume there is, indeed, an after life, or that there are spirits, that basically proves the existence of god simultaneously. It would be automatically beneficial to assume there is a god if we can prove the existence of ghosts because we know there is an after life.... life that goes on forever. Why not "waste" your time here on earth praising a God, or learning about it, if you're going to live even after you die?

My point is, if you can prove the existence of ghosts, you can safely assume, for once, that there is a god as well. That's my two cents, and I'm not even religious.

Side: God
xaeon(1093) Disputed
4 points

"We cannot prove either, but if we were to assume there is, indeed, an after life, or that there are spirits, that basically proves the existence of god simultaneously."

You know what they say about assuming, right? Yeah, it was at this point that your argument fell apart. Ghosts could be the result of god, sure, but they could also be the result of a ghost creating machine held in the depths of the pentagon, or rips in space/time, or physical manifestations of memories, or any other of the infinite number of possibilities. Sorry, but ghosts don't prove god.

Side: Ghosts
Bradf0rd(1428) Disputed
2 points

I know, ass u + me. I'm not saying my opinion holds truth, I even state that it's just an opinion.

Like I've said, I'm not religious but I would be much more interested in it if we were to prove the existence of spirits. Not over the edge, and I would probably pick up Buddhism because it seems most reasonable beyond the part about spirits.

It would be hilarious though, to know that ghosts were produced in the pentagon.

Side: God
3 points

God has put it in our psyche, or maybe DNA to believe that there is something greater than we are. Go to the most primitive and the most advanced societies on earth, and you will notice that these two believe in something or someone greater than they. It's in our psyche. But if you don't believe in anything you will fall for everything.

Side: God
3 points

You cannot deny the existence of God, even if you believe in theories like evolution. Every natural thing has "God" written all over it, whether you think God is one big powerful being, or some kind of collective consciousness.

Side: God
2 points

More? God, the arguments I've heard are more convincing.

Side: God
2 points

While I don't believe in either too much, God is much more probable than ghosts, since you can craft a philosophical argument for his existence, while for ghosts... you have "sightings", which could be due to many different things.

Side: God
2 points

I believe that god is everywhere, or at least some definition of god. If you are part of any religion (or have had exposure to religion). Friends of mine that say they don't believe in religion do believe in some sort of "higher being" or a god.

Truthfully though, I also have had an experience that makes me believe in ghosts.

Side: God
2 points

well, God is an undefined source of power of the Universe. It can from a divine being to a Superior force of Energy that controls the Universe... it's more reasonable.

Ghosts... don't really see how they can exist... so i can't really believe in them.

Side: God
2 points

How many times have you said aloud ,"oh God", when you are in a fix or in a difficult situation? For those who do not have faith in God, try to remember God, whatever your religion or faith, and see if you find some peace or way out of your problem.

Side: God
YummyCookies(22) Disputed
3 points

"Oh God" is just an expression. When you say "for fucks sake" you aren't really worrying about the sake of fuck, now are you?

What is it with you theists that makes you think everyone believes in God at least a little. I and many others don't at all. There is no God and if I brought myself to believe in one I'd be delusional because I'd believe in something that doesn't exist.

I suggest you start facing the fact that an atheist finds theist schizophrenic, just like an atheist seems lost to a devil to a theist.

But an atheist doesn't believe in devils either, which makes you look even more crazy to one, if you thought they were influenced by a devil.

Side: Ghosts
1 point

umm okay. . .gotta go with . . .

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

if there are ghosts. . .there is God.

this is not a chicken or egg debate. . .

if we exist afterlife (ghosts). . .a greater power exists.

now I personally do not find the personification of God as an old white dude accurate. . .she is not amused.

Side: God
xaeon(1093) Disputed
5 points

"if there are ghosts. . .there is God. "

Like I said to someone else, assuming that there being ghosts means god is real is incorrect. It only holds true if your speculation on what a ghost is holds true. All we know of ghosts (or the idea of ghosts) is that they are some kind of unexplainable physical manifestation. Whether they are trapped souls living in the afterlife is purely speculation.

Side: Ghosts
0 points

Ghosts are in your head; God is everywhere

Side: God
sparsely(496) Disputed
5 points

I think you've got that backward. ;)

Side: Ghosts
3 points

Actually I think he could just change it to "God and Ghosts (and everything else that's supernatural) are in your head."

Side: I equally don't believe in either
-1 points

I have seen him and carry him in my heart, I've never seen a ghost. I should have, I have been in a lot of attics, basements and out buildings...

Side: God
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
3 points

I demand further evidence...

Side: Ghosts
xaeon(1093) Disputed
3 points

Did you guys hang out? Was he cool? Did he let you touch his beard?

Side: Ghosts
-2 points
4 points

The sky is green.

Chickens are God.

Monkeys are made up.

See, I can make baseless statements too. I'll agree with your second statement but that doesn't mean you shouldn't back it up with reasons.

Side: I equally don't believe in either
xaeon(1093) Disputed
3 points

Both are made up.

Side: Ghosts
7 points

Wow, some very good points made on the god side for a change...

Of course they were made by,

1. an agnostic,

2. another who says in his very statement "I'm not even religious,"

3. and another who was just making a funny joke.

Impressive none the less considering the worthless patter eminating from the "I know god is real because I really really really think he's real," and the schitzos who think they've seen him/her/whatever.

But there's absolutely no reason that the existance of an afterlife means that there necessarily has to be a god (the only arguement worth argueing on the other side) just like the existance of a life doesn't necessarily mean there has to be a god.

I mean, I don't think there's such a thing as ghosts, in spite of some pretty convincing episodes of Ghost Hunters.

But it's not physically impossible as far as anyone knows, any more so than the existance of a god is physically impossible.

The difference though is that we know humans exist now, all it takes is a dead one to turn into something else, POOF! you have a ghost (or zombie I guess, you get the point though I think.)

God on the other hand, where the hell would he have come from?

Side: Ghosts
4 points

At least there is some photographic "evidence" for the existence of ghosts, questionable though it may be.

Supporting Evidence: ghostpics! (www.ghostresearch.org)
Side: Ghosts
1 point

I for one find double exposures and refractions of light extremely frightening.

Side: Ghosts
1 point

lol well I said it was questionable.

Also, I'd like to add that I find the idea of undead spirits highly unlikely.

I mean, imagine for a moment that the "souls of the dead" really do roam the earth.

The current population of the earth is about 6.5 Billion people. That's just this generation. If all the souls of the dead were still around for every human that died, the spirit world would be elbow to elbow.

Side: Ghosts
4 points

Belief in God requires unfounded opinion (belief), superstition, and dogmas like Christian virgin birth.

Ghosts don't involve virgin birth. They only require fear of the unknown.

Belief is a con game. Eat the menu?

Barry

Side: Ghosts
3 points

God is good. Ghosts are great.

Side: Ghosts
5 points

This is a tough one.

Science says that neither one exists.

I have never seen G_d.

I have seen , smelled, felt and heard what I think you are calling ghosts.

Religion...is it an illusion that one hopes for? Do we wish it so much that we believe it? Are we taught it as children so we accept it?

I think any belief is just that. It doesn't make it wrong and it doesn't make right. Humans need hope. it is the only thing that separates us from the primates....well that and the ability to accessorize...LOL

G_d is good and ghosts as you call then can be too.

SO, I am sitting on the fence with this one...If I had to vote...I would vote for ghosts

Side: booooooooooooooooo
rajpadalia(18) Disputed
1 point

Why do you write G_d, instead of God?

Side: God
Drumlind11(14) Disputed
1 point

My brother made a connection with the Big Bang Theory with the creation of the universe by God. The Big Bang Theory started out as a tiny ball of energy that exploded, making everything, including us, by that energy. If you replace the ball of energy with God, and since we were made in God's image, we were made by the ball of energy, aka God.

Side: God

Isn't God kinda like a ghost?

Side: Ghosts

What if we are all ghosts, haunting God?

Side: Ghosts
1 point

I have alot of hints to lead me in the way of spirits, though not as many to believe in a god

Side: Ghosts
1 point

we cannot prove both but i believe more in ghosts

Side: Ghosts
1 point

I believe more in ghosts than God, at least i know that there are other dimensions overlapping ours.

And i also know that we are not only the ones that live in this universe.

I strongly believe in the existance of ghosts but never god.

God is irrational...

Side: Ghosts
0 points

as much as I wont to blow you guys away whit ghosts and gods but in all the world people have ask if god is real some say yes but other say no i must stand out whit this argument it seems that ghost and god have the same thing in common no won really knows whats out there only thing to do is wait

Side: stand out