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I looked at the picture, and I don't get it. Jesus in a van? Please explain the humor here. What am I missing?
I also don't belive Jesus is going to have a second coming. It don't work that way. Except perhaps in the sense of mankind having a spiritual awakening. There have been hundreds of predictions over the past two millennium on a date and time that Jesus would return. Hell, some thought it would happen last year with all those Blood Moons!
But no. Nothing. My guess is God changed His mind and decided to let us figure it out ourselves. With hell from the Holy Spirit. When I was saved and had my vision I thought for a minute when that curtain lit up the room like a fireball that it was the second coming. And that I was going to be cast down into Hell. Since up to them I was a terrible sinner and a God mocker.
But He Saved me. I think maybe any sort of second comings will be God showing Himself as He did to me. Jesus remains with us in Spirit, and His teachings live through the Scriptures. Not all of the quotes from Jesus in the Gospels are true, however. This is why we must pray to God and know Him better so we can sort the wheat from the chaff.
That's pretty accurate. And after they drive him across the US/Mexico border some conservative gun nut will shoot him down in the name of the good ol' U S of A for being an illegal immigrant. Later his esposa, Maria Magdalena, will try to tell us he arose from his grave but she'll just be deported under suspicion of being a drug mule high out of her mind.
Actually this probably already happened and there's a pissed off Jesus glaring down at US conservatives right this moment.
What a bigoted fool you are! Only a fool could watch all the damage done from 8 years of an extremist PC Democrat party and STILL ridicule Christians and those on the Right who have obviously been proven right over and over again.
But those like you will keep spewing your brainwashed Leftwing rhetoric.
How's that Obamacare doing? You know the one that 100% of republicans did not vote for because they had a brain to reason with. EVRYTHING the GOP said would happen with Obamacare IS HAPPENING! It's a complete failure as is Obama's entire presidency.
How's our nation's moral values doing sense separation of our Christian heritage? Record numbers of broken homes, welfare roles swollen with unwed mothers, record numbers of people falling into poverty.
What did this debate have to do with the Democratic party? Nothing
And mocking right wing rhetoric doesn't automatically make me left wing. I'm moderate. Indeed I mock the left, too. But with your blinders there is only two opposite extremes.
What did this debate have to do with Obamacare? Nothing
And regarding our nation's morals, your side is pushing Donald Trump - money grubbing, woman hater, race bater, flip flopper, crook, tax cheat. Yeah, that will help the nation's morals.
your side is pushing Donald Trump - money grubbing, woman hater, race bater, flip flopper, crook, tax cheat. Yeah ...... LOL ... This is what Democracy looks like ... lol
Basically the only people you could hope to persuade are the ones somewhere in the middle but you are so far to the right and so tainted in your hate for the left you don't give reasonable people any room to agree. And so you go on banning everyone, and then asking why no one responds to your debates.
I live during a time where Democrats have become extremists who have no problem with no restriction abortions. Who are baby hating, currupt liars acting like political correct dictators telling everyone how to think. You have the nerve to talk about race bating?
Are you a complete idiot?
Maybe you are someone who likes being told how to think, and if you don't to be labeled a Homophobe or transgenderphobe, or a woman hater, etc.
Your progressive, Liberal, Leftwing MO is attacking any person who dares to have diverse opinions contrary to your new age humanistic dogma.
No, my MO is standing up to you or anyone else who tries to bully push an agenda through. I test what they say, and more often then not they just insult and smear as their reply - such as calling me a "complete idiot". And if I liked to be told how to think you wouldn't be so bothered by me, would you?
I'm not progressive or liberal, but I believe in civil rights, I believe in the public good, I believe in freedom of thought and freedom of expression. I also believe in balanced budgets, shared tax burdens, national defense, even the right to bear arms (though I don't consider public safety laws on arms to be a violation of that). You see I truly am a moderate, a blend. But since you're always speaking from the far right when you hear my replies you always hear them as further left then you yourself are, which is always going to be true simply because you are so far to the right. But that doesn't make me a leftist. There's a whole lot of spectrum left to the left of you, virtually the entire spectrum in fact.
HOGWASH YOU COMPLETE LIAR. I have spoken many times to our debt problem and never do you support my concerns. Why do you think you are one of the people I ban?
Because you never agree with anything. All you ever do is be the devil's advocate and tear down what I say. I have better things to do then waste time with ideologs.
Freedom of expression? LOL, you support censoring any religious expression in public places.
Tell me how many times you have voted for republicans if you are moderate. Tell me you don't vote for these extremist Democrats because these past decades, there are only far left wing Democrats running for office. Up until Trump, all we get on the GOP are moderates. You should love the do nothing moderate politicians.
I don't ban other people who dissagree because they can actually debate the topic rather than always findng fault.
Debt - Show me a debate where you talked about debt as an issue in and of itself and not labelled as a giant smear on just the Democrats.
Never agree on anything - Wrong again. I've even made nice comments from time to time on Saintnow. But you and he view anything other than complete and total agreement without any reservation as utter disagreement.
Censoring religious expression in public places - Wrong again. You personally can say and do whatever you want. And churches can say their thing. And even an individual student can say a prayer. I only object to institutionalizing a procedure or communication which elevates one religion without acknowledging or elevating any others in a free society with freedom to be any religion - not just Christians.
Voting Republican - I voted for Dole back in my Kansas days, and Bill Weld for Governor of Massachusetts, and I helped run the campaign for the reelection of Massachusetts State Rep Hasty Evans and she won. So you see I do. But you know who I don't vote for? Extremists and radicals and people who want to legislate Christianity as the law of the land. You guys need to put some more moderate Republicans out there and you'll get my vote again.
You don't ban other people who disagree. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You are tied right up there with Saintnow for your fame of banning people nonstop for little or no reason.
So I say right back to you. "HOGWASH YOU COMPLETE LIAR."
You are once again wasting my time. You are so far left, it is a joke to hear your lies.
If you say you are against extremists, then you can not be voting for any Democrats because their party has been taken over by left wing extremists.
There is not an unborn baby they care about at any age. They are fixated on weird sexual orientations and transgender disorders, etc. etc. THEY ARE EXTREMISTS!
As ALWAYS you lie and judge people on the Right as wanting to legislate Christianity as law. COMPLET LIE YOU FOOL! It is your side that wants to legislate atheism by censoring any religious expression in public.
People on the Right want to stop these progressive Big Brother control freaks who are trying to force all Americans to think like them.
I have the same people on my ban lists because they are a total waste of time. They are so far lost in their left wing ideology(you included).
I have no problem debating most others no matter if they agree or not because they at least are willing to admit some truth when they hear it.
I have wasted enough time with you, I won't be responding.
I countered every one of your last smears and you ignored them and moved on to new ones. Because all you have is smears. Now I'll do it again
Am I wasting your time? - You're here on a debate website. A lot. You're choosing the time you put in. You're choose the time you spend responding. You're wasting YOUR time.
Extremists and Democrats - That goes back to your constant smear on the Democrats and abortion which we've already debated and defended a dozen times by now.
Democrats fixated on sexual orientations - Nope, it's conservatives passing the laws trying to meddle with it which lead to this trumped up national debate on practices which have already gone on for decades in most places with no ill effects.
Legislate atheism - Nope. You and your church can say and believe anything you want. You just can't force Hindus and Buddhists or anyone else to pay for or participate in your Christian beliefs.
Big brother and thought control - You mean like a debate website bully who posts a never ending agenda of evil Democrats, pro life, and Christian God, and then bans anyone who says "hey, wait now..."
Same people on your ban list - That's a Who's Who of good debaters as well as people who are finer human beings than you are, and who also are more likely to meet God's good reward than you.
Admitting truth - Find one other member of this site who will speak up on your behalf that you are willing to admit some truth when you hear it. I'd like to see a name.
You won't be responding - Right. Because you run away when people stand up to you.
Insuring 20 million more people, saving tens of thousands of lives, providing insurance for those with pre-existing conditions, removing lifetime caps, limiting rescissions (getting kicked off your insurance when you go to use it), providing preventative care with no out-of-pocket cost, etc. etc. all while maintaining low rates of premium growth and healthcare inflation.
You live in some kind of left wing propaganda dream land!
Obamacare is costing thousands of lives for middle class families who can no longer afford to buy insurance. They are forced to go without insurance and pay the penalty.
The only people getting this sick pathetic healthcare plan are the ones who are subsidised by the middle class, or are already sick and then after the plan pays for all their surgeries, they cancel the plan.
THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING!
Did you know that in many states they have canceled the bronze plan and forcing people to buy the much more expensive silver plan? The premiums are scheduled to sky rocket once agin in 2017.
Exchanges are dropping out because they keep losing money!
IT'S A COMPLETE FAILURE and these people you say are getting insurance will be left out in the cold once again when it all collapses.
Obamacare is costing thousands of lives for middle class families who can no longer afford to buy insurance.
Silliness.
A) Even Fox News is saying that some features of Obamacare have saved 10s of thousands of lives.
B) 20 million MORE people have insurance than otherwise would.
I provided references in previous post.
they cancel the plan
And pay thousands of dollars in fines to have NO health insurance and still be liable for incurred medical expenses - not if they are smart they won't.
The premiums are scheduled to sky rocket once agin in 2017.
What do you mean agin (again) - when did they "skyrocket" previously?
The main contributor for plan premiums rising in 2017 will be the release of new expensive drugs - not the requirements of Obamacare.
in many states they have canceled the bronze plan
If you don't actually have an argument, why not lie I guess.
I know you sincerely believe this, and indeed you may be right. But I just have to say that if you sat down to watch "Syfy" channel and there was a movie on which followed this exact story line but used a name like "He-man" for the main character you'd probably find it hard to swallow.
Well no not really .... specially after absorbing the entire story line and considering the promise and where we are headed as a culture ....
indeed the creator of the Universe is about to take center stage ... for those who he has called (from the foundation of the Earth) great anticipation ...
for those not found .. tremendous tribulation and judgement .... you should be holding your breath
What do you envision the second coming of Jesus Christ will be like?
exactly as the Bible proclaims ya doofis ....
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Revelation 19:11 .. and I (John) saw heaven opened .. and behold .. a white horse .. and he who sat on it is called faithful and true .. and in righteousness he judges and wages war
19:12 .. his eyes are a flame of fire .. and on his head are many diadems .. and he has a name written on him which no one knows except himself
19:13 .. he is clothed with a robe dipped in blood .. and his name is called the Word of God
19:14 .. and the armies which are in heaven .. clothed in fine linen .. white and clean .. were following him on white horses
19:15 .. from his mouth comes a sharp sword .. so that with it he may strike down the nations .. and he will rule them with a rod of iron ..
and he treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God .. the Almighty
19:16 .. and on his robe and on his thigh he has a name written . . . KING OF KINGS .. AND LORD OF LORDS .................... mp3 audio ... full context
During those days when the wrath of God is poured out upon the earth .. the Bride of Christ will in heaven celebrate the long looked for marriage festivities .. and arrayed in her cleansed garments shall be eternally united with him who is to be recognized in all the universe .. and for all time .. as King of Kings and Lord of Lords .. when he comes forth to make an end of all evil .. his bride shall come with him .. associated in judgment .. and later to rule with him . . . . Rev 19:11-16 we have here a vision of the departure from heaven of Christ with his saints (previously caught up to be with him .. 1 Thes 4:13-18 .. and with his angels preparatory to the catastrophe in which all world powers shall be smitten Dan 2:34-35 .. on Christ’s head here we see many crowns “diadems” (cf 14:14) for the hour is now at hand when he is to be exalted and enthroned in his kingdom .. to “sit upon the throne of his father David" ..... gty.org
I love my Bible but admit I never much cared for the Book of Revelation.
No credibility at all, as John of Patmos was almost certainly hysterical and feverish when he wrote it. I also never understood much of it. A lot of it was written in code in case the Romans got ahold of it. Like the beast with seven heads? That is the city of Rome with its seven hills.
Still, very strange book. I'm not alone in not grasping it all. Most Christians don't! But they are not as honest as me so they don't like to admit it.😇
Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.