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What if current events are Bible prophesies in process of end times fulfilments?

The only good that ever came to man was influenced by light and salt. Many are in belief that truth is subjective. And think that mankind is good. 

But in reality, the worst violence ever brought were men in opposition to God, His ways, and His people, Jews and Christians. 

While making every conspiracy known to man in attempts to subdue and rule all. Even in everyday life, men without fear of God in many cultures and classes are the rot in every way throughout all of society. 

And the more immoral, the quicker its fall. 
So much so, that it is a high point of infiltration in taking down nations. Literally a bullet point to take down societies and nations! 

Your idealism is merely your own pleasant good mind fooling you to see a rose colored picture that doesn't exist. 

Without faith we would not have had the 1000s of years we have had. Because God's people, both the church and Israel in the world, have actually built everything good in the world, while evil men have taken it by force and steering. 

The whole thing is a war between good and evil. And we salt and light have kept evil at bay. But now even our influence has waned. So as the light goes out, darkness right? 

How dark is it getting? Do you have spiritual discernment? Or is your mind darkened?  

Less salt, now it's not salty enough, now it is rotting. Eyes to see, ears to hear? 

He is coming soon! Then what?

So as nice as you are, you have been influenced by a culture, not just America. I mean God's people who were just and fair, while bringing the best of humanity through YHWY and Yushua to be a strength and a hope in even the darkest of times.

Now I don't expect you to see that. But its actually the truth!
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Dermot(5736) Banned
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All this from a dimwit who has never had an original thought of its own ; let's examine one nugget of horseshit it spews out .....

But in reality, the worst violence ever brought were men in opposition to God, His ways, and His people, Jews and Christians.

Yes forgot about the crusades , the inquisition and the wiping out of societies and civilisations by servants of Christ ; of course no mention of Hitler who was a believer in god .

Millions have been murdered , maimed and victimised by believers throughout the centuries and it continues .

You really ought to stick to walking the dog or counting your fingers beacause you don't seem to have the necessary skill sets for much else

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Your not even in the topic

You just spew demons, you must be really filled with darkness.

Maybe your a murdering psyco. You seem to be one at the bottom of the barrel! Slimey, slithering, Yuck!

Bad tree! Bad fruit! Rotton!...... Cut down thrown into the fire!

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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You see what I told you about Mint Tea from the start? She supports Wicca, she's a witch by association if not actually participating in their meetings and rituals. I knew it from the start when I asked "what is it with this girls attitude?" I always said "witchy" and I was right.

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Truth: The quality or state of being true. A fact or belief that are accepted as true.

Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions

The reason I'm posting the definitions is that it's easier to show where I'm coming from in this.

Many are in belief that truth is subjective. And think that mankind is good

Because it is. Truth is subjective. Example: In America the thumbs up is a sign of approval or cheering on. This is a truth. In the Middle East it is seen as a derogatory gesture. Also truth. Beckoning someone with your finger for in America just means you want them to come to you. It would be seen as the a symbol of death in Singapore. Both are true to that culture and it is subjective.

Without faith we would not have had the 1000s of years we have had. Because God's people, both the church and Israel in the world, have actually built everything good in the world, while evil men have taken it by force and steering.

I hope you are meaning all faiths because the Christian God wasn't the one worshiped by Egyptians, or by most early superstitious or religious communities. The early Mesolithic period became a boon of hunter/gatherer and formed communities which had previously not existed, not to mention areas like Gobekli Tepe which is breaking the boundaries of what was commonly considered human/animal/structure development theories by being constructed earlier than what was originally thought possible. Some twelve THOUSAND years ago. Christianity is only about two thousand years old, give or take. While we may not know exactly to whom they prayed there are countless artifacts attributing a superstitious, if not religious, belief and culture. The barest essentials we have now are from thousands of years of trial and error. Plant propagation, communities, animal husbandry....all before Christianity.

But in reality, the worst violence ever brought were men in opposition to God, His ways, and His people, Jews and Christians.

The worst violence were brought about by men. Be it by agenda or design, a lust for land and power or an excuse to bring religion to those who believed differently than them. People have the capacity for light and dark, their actions will always define them.

For hundreds and hundreds of years, people have prophesied the end of times. Yet we continue on.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Truth of God is not subjective. God is the law, the judge, and the jury. He is the government above all governments.

So you can have a truth about preparing broccoli and it be in truth the best. But its a truth to you, that is subjective truth.

What you perceive is truth.

But in legal process which is what God is as a measure and law. What the legal process of Salvation is. That measure is truth and that is not at all subjective.

You can believe your gods are cute butterflies or unjust allah, it doesnt matter what subjective version of truth you hold, it will be measured by His Truth and His Law and His Justice.

I feel as though we are charged with the greatest work ever which is completion.

We are ushering in Christ's rein on earth. So I take seriously whatever call He says as if He is here telling us exact instructions. We are above Trump and Hillary and Obama.

All things are ours and we are the transition team!

I am approaching this like wake everyone up, its time to follow instructions for the changing of the guard, and the true transition that is about to occur.

Jesus said to pray Our Father who art in Heaven Holy is thy name, thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in Heaven ...

The whole work Genesis to Revelations was to take back the world in Salvation and rein in goodness, opposite of how this world has become. Subjecting all things to Himself ...

We are literally the transition team! Are you living in the wrong Kingdom?

Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
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But the truth of your God is subjective to you. You know that your God exists, that is your truth. The ancient Egyptians knew that their God of creation was Ptah. That was their truth. Babylonians knew their God was Marduk, Greeks knew their Gods were lead by Zeus, Romans knew their Gods were lead by Jupiter, this is all their truths. Their cultures and society molded their belief until a new idea was introduced or a new God came into being. You wish to hold other cultures and other Gods to your supreme One, but that is your own vision and not theirs. If you went back in time and told ancient Vikings that their Gods didn't exist and there was only one God -your God- .....well they were Vikings they probably wouldn't take that well.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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This is the difference in many truths and many religions, and this by this we add to every indication of truth that is mathmatically conclusive of Jesus Christ, the Bible, and the Creator God.

Many things an overwelming amount of evidence is present proving the Bible and God beyond any reasonable doubt.

Dismiss the many who bear false witness against God. Its really obvious now to prove God and His word.

We hsve documentable evidence showing He is truth, in history, in consistency, in sensibility and logic in the message, we dont have to twist things to show anything.

Even by math and science He is proven. Not at all coincidences, its not mathmatically probable to dismiss all of them as coincidence, its unreasonable!

At some point coincidences in one area, say Jesus being at the center of all things, the math says it all becomes not a coincidence, its improbable that they are coincidences!

Unreasonable minds do not consider what are the mathmatical odds of many these many coincidences occurring. Its like they are trained to be stupid in denial of anything reasonable. And its in every direction that has to do with goodness period!

Yet these are the same people who do not apply math at all to evolution in the other direction either, as they hail evolution. In complete ignorance and blind faith, unfounded, and at unreasonable odds. Their minds are literally like unreasoning animals. Just like the Bible said they would be.

Just about every religion acknowledges Jesus as a prophhet, or in some place of honor. But none have each other in a place of honor. Like Buddhism doesn't acknowledge Mohommad but they do acknowledge Jesus, and Islam doesn't acknowledge Buddha but they do acknowledge Jesus.

You can cross reference most religions and find that most all of them acknowledge Jesus in an honorable manner.

But they do not acknowledge each others special prophet!

Hindus also. Yet in Christianity we only acknowledge Jesus through the Old Testament. And even the Jews say Jesus was at least "good."

So how is it that all religions, even those that are antichrist acknowledge Him. It reminds me of an account in the Gospels. Where even the demons acknowledged Him!

Everyone acknowledges Jesus in one way or another. Most of posters acknowledge Jesus and the Bible several times a day!!

So then recap, other religions even honor Him, yet they do not honor each "other's gurus." Atheist achnowledge Him several times a day.

Some acknowledge Him all day long, in their jobs, in their hobbies, and in their recreation. Who achnowledges Buddah or Mohammad all day.

Thats kind of rare, but man who doesnt achnowledge God and the Bible everyday?

All religions point to Jesus. Even in atheism, they acknowledge Him even if by a venomous hate for the God they say they don't believe in and they have been at war with Him since the dark ages.

And everyone everywhere has answered to Him. And to the Bible. Not everyone every where have a rote response to Buddha or Mohommad.

There are a huge number of Buddhist, Muslisms, and Hindu. So why doesnt everyone everywhere achnowledge these every day. Islam only when evil terrorism strikes! But everyone "thanks God" every time they miss something unpleasant. "Thank God!"

Add that to the time line in dating history and artifacts as A.D. and B.C. No matter how the atheist in the fields daing facts try to redefine these, its really to solid to impliment.

And Israel is the point on the map that defines what is East and what is West.

And then TORH TORH YHWY HROT HROT in the five books of the Torah which is Hebrew w/out vowels.

Accurately declaring that most languages to the West will read and write left to right and to the East read and write right to left with YHWY in the middle book. Will because left to right Western reading and writing had not occurred when the Torah was written.

And curiously its in equidistant letters YHWY is found in intervals of 7, and the TORH spelled "frontward" rigt to left. And "backward" left to right are like bookends, and each found the same way at intervals of 7 squared, at 49 space intervals.

So YHWH, and Jesus, and Gods chosen people define all these things straight down the middle, including their Messiah who they don't even realize has come. I can only say it takes a special kind of fool to dismiss all these improbable mathmatically confirmed "coincidences!"

Matt 8

28 When He came to the other side into the country of the Gadarenes, two men who were demon-possessed met Him as they were coming out of the tombs. They were so extremely violent that no one could pass by that way.

29 And they cried out, saying, “What business do we have with each other, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”

30 Now there was a herd of many swine feeding at a distance from them.

31 The demons began to entreat Him, saying, “If You are going to cast us out, send us into the herd of swine.”

32 And He said to them, “Go!” And they came out and went into the swine, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea and perished in the waters.

33 The herdsmen ran away, and went to the city and reported everything, including what had happened to the demoniacs.

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NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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You see what I was trying to tell you about Mint Tea, that nasty witchy girl you teamed up with against me, defending her as if she was a Christian? You lack discernment because you're not letting the Bible be the standard.

Why are you asking us? Isnt the answer in the revelation? To my understanding it is pretty specific in details what happens

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Why are you responding to a debate you are not interested in?

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Why are you respondent to an argument you aren't interested in?

If it's true, then you can be sure that the 'light' will never go out.

If not, then it is only a matter of a few more throws of dice, before your religion goes extinct and its followers seen as criminals against humanity throughout the foreseeable future.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Not according to the Bible. Its actually much more simple than most think.

Hebrews 2:15

and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives.

We in this generation, are charged with the greatest work ever by God, which is completion of all things.

We are ushering in Christ's rein on earth. I take very seriously His instructions. He has written as if He is here telling us exact instructions directly. He who has an ear ....

We are above Trump and Hillary and Obama.

All things are ours and we are the transition team!

I approach this as written. Wake everyone up, it's time to follow instructions for the changing of the guard, and the true transition that is about to occur on the earth. And it is opposite Hillary Obama, EU, Globalization, and One World Government/ Religion ... that will make the Holocaust look mild! Then the end will come. And He will crush everything not in Him under His feet!

We are literally the transition team! And you are playing in the wrong Kingdom papa! You have a job to do.

Ask Him He will tell you

God will give you legal citizenship in the 1000 year rein. But dual citizenship is illegal. He will not allow a heart of dual citizenship into His Kingdom!

It is His land, all of it!

He will replace the nations in this final act. And that is now! Over the next few years He will finalize this work! Its time, its at the door.

The whole work is for this end.

1 Corinthians 15:27

For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.

1 Corinthians 15:28

When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

Ephesians 1:22

And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church,

Philippians 3:21

who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.

Hebrews 2:8

You have put all things in subjection under his feet.” For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him.

Hebrews 2:15

and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives.

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Of course, your shepherd's call.

But, if it is false again, then I will at least start the processes to end christianity. If not, then I can make my claim to a fair God. Though it should be obvious : a fair Abrahamic God can not exist.

Let's see how many people can keep faith despite all reasonable odds.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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We are not ushering in Christ's reign on earth. He will return to rule the world in His own timing regardless of what you or anybody else does or does not do.

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If that is truly the case, then we are in for one hell of a ride ;)

Things are going to get real exiting, fun, and entertaining quickly ;)

jeffreyone(1383) Disputed
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Why are you guys always talking like you have bought apartments in hell? Yes its true sin will send people to hell cos God is Holy and cannot live with such contaminated people in heaven. But the punishment of hell existed before christianity. Everyone(You and me) was doomed for hell before christianity. Then jesus came into the picture and said;

◄John 14:6►New International VersionJesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

So ANYONE CAN GO TO HEAVEN just that its only through jesus.

◄John 3:16►New International VersionFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

You are just not ready to believe. And only a few of us are gonna have this benefit.

BUT I COULD BE WRONG IF YOU REALLY HAVE BOUGHT A MANSION IN HELL....!!

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I can see God not wanting sinners in His house, but why send people to hell? Why not just leave them outdide His house? ;)

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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The ride you are in for is nothing compared to the fire of Hell. The ride you are in for, you may think is a living Hell, but it will be merciful compared to being in the fire of Hell. You need to be saved from Hell by the Savior before it's too late and your ride is over. You're on that ride now, and it's going over a cliff and you need to be saved before you are fallen forever and it's too late.

But you think you are good and don't need to be saved, so I guess you just have to enjoy your ride as much as you can outside of Hell.

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Anything is better than being near you in heaven ;)

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In that case, we are fucked.......................................................................

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I have made a lot of statements over my life that have ended in reality. With the thousands of statements within the Bible, it's likely that many of them come to pass. You'll also find many in the Qur'an that have as much legitimacy. Over centuries it would be surprising if some didn't.

So "what if"?? It would just turn many against a "god" that would ALLOW such destruction ... that is... if they have time to think about it. I already HAVE thought about it ... that's why I couldn't follow, or worship, such a cruel entity.

You may start quoting Bible verses, .... or the Qur'an, which ever.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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2000 prophesies have come true there are about 500 left.

And they are in line to be fulfilled and are quick. Most in context will be fulfilled within less than a seven year time period.

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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None of them have come true.

You are insane.

You JW's are spooky people.

BTW........

your bio has a quote from you that says this........

"Common Sense is a Value"

Which baffles me, since you with your deluded and quasi-psychotic beliefs are the person on this entire site who is MOST bereft of common sense.

So....what the fuck is up with that?

LOL

SS

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"Our righteousness is like filthy rags before Him." What does it mean?

It is explained in this parable below.

(See Matthew 22!)

Wedding clothes are coverings. Imagine Jesus legally purchased all the dust back from under the fall, our flesh that makes up a bodily covering for our souls.

One set of dust is cleansed and made new, and in His nature. The other "garment" is like the nature of Cain, wrestling with the ground to produce "the best" and "the worste" of mankind's nature.

All bodies will be returned to each disembodied soul. A disembodied soul IS the brokenness of man since the fall, "dust to dust."

Lost souls wander lost, in the hopelessness and brokenness of man in the Hell in the middle of the earth. Jesus gives to us who believe in Him the hope of restoration in Him. Sealing us in faith by being born again by His Spirit.

Jesus was the Bread who was broken for us, in order to make us whole again. This is the resurrection to Salvation. Others will be resurrected into filthy rags. Not wedding clothes.

In case you ever wondered "saved from what?"

So in the end when everyone has their bodies is returned to them, those not cleansed and made new through the work of Christ will be "as filthy rags" referencing "menstrual rags"

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I believe these are words God has given me. Its a strong word. But I believe an accurate word. I want to share it with you you seem to share the same mind " the Mind of Christ"

Its easy to take things out of context and stitch together nonsense surrounding the falicies promoted regarding God's word.

Left media is a great example of this. And many people are a product of this deceptive culture!

This is the way of left media. Its the same. They are equally deceived and deceivers. Those who bear false witness will be judged as the law says.

And the blood spilled and the stumbling of those so as to bring sheep through destruction by false witness. They will be as if drunk with the blood their mouths full of it and their hands drenched by it! All those who promote deceptions will be drunk with blood of those they deceived!

I would hate to be those who bear false witness against the Most High!

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A deceiver, Dawkins is interesting. Im not sure what God has planned for him specifically. But he is identified and He is alive because he is a purposed vessel. Dishonor.

Seems that God had surrounded Dawkins by faith, true faith. And God did many things in his life that are directed toward him. To harden his heart, as God did Pharoah, possibly to soften later or to harden further.

To either use him as example, since he so stubornly worked against God.

Or if he is going to reveal himself to him in the end.

I do believe he has a special purpose of extreme to either degree. And he is either going to be an example of extreme judgmemt for bearing false witness against the Most High God, or extreme grace and God will make him a pillar of faith for a short time for those left behind after the rapture. Which I refer to the rapture as "the first seating."

God has shown me there are two seatings.

Those not killed by war and bombs may be presented with a very short time to be saved through not bowing to the antichrist regime through martyrdom. Bible calls it destruction of flesh as a discipline of the Lord on the "Day of the Lord"

Those left behind will be those who were deceived by the world views that are steeped in the spirit of antichrist.

For America that would have a high concentration in special interest groups as example, as in black lives matter, which is vengeance and bitter roots of bitterness, unforgiveness, covetousness and many attitudes of the heart that are antichrist attitudes.

There are many other deceptions, like that.

Each is steeped in antichrist spirit. Yet somehow embraced without the sheep recognizing it is not Christ. These deceptions are warned of in Matt 24 and many other scriptures.

Many wont have an opportunity to recant. But many will. This is the great multitude found in Revelation who come out of the "Great Tribulation"

When His wrath is poured out it will be as if YHWY is drunk with blood. The destruction will be complete. This present darkness will be replaced. And all the wicked will be removed, from the greatest of them to the least.

The multitude will be purged through His consuming fire as children discipled by the Lord.

These disobedient children must be purged through the harsh discipline of the Lord. "The destruction of their flesh on the Day of the Lord" in order to be purged of their divided heart.

Friendship with the world, making them enemies of God. Prodigal sons eating pigs food. Deceived they chose teachers who have tickled their ears, and they chose dual citizenship of two kingdoms. Which cannot be! Many the Lord will vomit. Some He will purge.

These disobedient children need get to the point where they recognize the deception so when the mask comes off and they see it for what it is, they fall down in flesh to never be deceived by the antichrist kingdom of the world again!

Work out your Salvation with fear and trembling.

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But in reality, the worst violence ever brought were men in opposition to God, His ways, and His people, Jews and Christians.

Have you read the book of Judges?

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Yes.

God does sanction some wars. And if you understood it in context you would understand there were some nations completely currupted by seed of fallen angels.

The evidence of this can be found outside of the Bible also.

If God did not lead Jews to victory in that manner, we wouldnt be here today having this conversation. And there eould not have been a host like Mary that was uncurrupted by that seed for Messiah to be born through.

This is why genealogy was so critical. And Gods word focuses on it.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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There were some societies like Sodom and Gommorah that were that evil that God destroyed or had commanded the destruction down to the infant.

Note also the same with Satan. When seed of Gods purpose were being delivered, Satan through Pharoah and Herod and many instances did the same. And still does.

If God had not instructed total destruction there would not have been a host like Mary to be born to.

Those nations were poluted with Nephilium and sacraficing their children to gods, and practicing cannibalism . And there were giants, a product of fallen angels.

There comes a point where God judges nations, and annhilates nations. Like in Sodom and Gomorrah. The banged Lots door demanding their sexual perversion into their neighbors house onto to their families and even their guests.

And it was acceptable to their city leaders and their society to the point of banging their neighbors doors down forcing themselves onto their unwilling neighbord.

So then God said enough!

God is good patient and just!

And other ref people use to say what you are saying were prophesies foretelling future rvents. Not commanding the Jews to "dash little one against rocks."

But the four nations God sanctioned to annihilate were maximum evil. They were cut of when their max was reached.

And it was self appetite indulgeance and giants strong as beasts and ripping people and animals apart with bare hands and were feasting in cannabalism!!

So yes! God said leave none alive in those four nations. And those who escaped begat nations that war against Israel today. And shout terror out of the "mouths of their babes" in violence even shouts chanted boldly from little girls who should be learning their alphabet and playing chutes and ladders.

But instead their little girls are screaming pledges to be suicide bombers, as their most ferverent crucify Christians torture them and chop off their heads!

So again God is saying enough!

All these gross behaviors that brought Gods patience to an end are upon us now!

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Kindness and goodness is telling truth. Subjective truth is like deceiving people. If Jesus says there is only one way, then widening the door to be a highway is deceptive.

The point of my post is we are more so in the last days then people think.

And Jesus spent a lot of time discussing and warning us about the copious amounts of deceptions that would flood the last days.

Yet I am seeing even Christians embrace "subjective truth" of every kind and as held by every mind.

And Christians denying Him, by denying there is only one truth!

If He comes back there will be many left behind.

Many deny Him by denying who He said He was.

So logic ... Jesus warns of massive deceptions in the last days. And here now in the last days everyone has their own version of deception under an umbrella of encouraged strong opposition to those declaring Christ Jesus as the one and only truth.

So Jesus warns us, not to deny Him before men, or He will deny us before the Father. And at this last hour truth is called out and shut up and people called by His name are denying Him, as the one way!

So that is why I am posting, for those who care to be woken up so they can get ready for His coming.

Any not interested are free to ignore.