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 What is the One True Religion? Change my mind. (97)

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What is the One True Religion? Change my mind.

don't pull any punches, we just want the Truth and nothing but the Truth here...
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It's actually likelier that we're a simulation created by a previous intelligent species that has appeared to gain consciousness; statistically with a higher probability than there being either a God or no God. Although you could then ask if our creators' Universe has a God, but we then wouldn't be referring to our own reality.

iPhi(239) Clarified
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and what evidence do you have to support this hypothesis?

also who/what created all previous species? and the universe(s) themselves??

is Nature your god then?

Mingiwuwu(1481) Clarified
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It's both. You just don't get it yet. You're on the right path of thinking though. Us geniuses are rare.

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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LMMFAO !!!!!!!!! Leftist love them some Mooslimes but you don't want to own it !

Bronto(2017) Disputed
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You're on the right path of thinking though. Us geniuses are rare.

Come now Ming. We both know you live in Mommy's basement and can't get a job.

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Ahh, the one true religion!

I have news for you. There is no one true religion.

God created man. Why? So that God can have fellowship with man.

Then… Man created religion. Why? So that men could subject other men into submission and control.

iPhi(239) Disputed
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Man discovered Religion, just like Science, Philosophy, Math, etc..

God created everything Logic, Reason, Knowledge, Sentience, Sapience, etc..

Man simply discovers these things, not creates them.

Man often does a bad job of describing things yes. You got a good point there. Just look how long it took man to figure out 0+1=1, duh!

just because Man does something wrong or badly doesn't mean there is something wrong with the discipline/knowledge/field of study, Man is the problem not Religion :P

thejax(68) Disputed
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Yes, God created the laws of existence, the Sciences.

But fellowship with God is not religion. Religion is not fellowship with God.

Man created religion and man subdues his fellow man. Religion is the means of subjugation.

God says Love one another. Don’t kill each other.

If I don’t love my fellow human being or I sin, then I’m breaking fellowship with God. My sin has nothing to do with religion. Religion can’t atone for my sin. My relationship is not with a religion.

My sin if present and is not atoned for through Jesus’ sacrifice, will separate me from God’s fellowship. Religion plays no role in the relationship between God and myself. I the human being must make a choice. Religion has nothing to do with my choice. The choice I must make is to be obedient to God or be disobedient to God. Religion has nothing to do with my relationship with God, the act of whether I am obedient or disobedient to God.

Religion is created, it’s not discovered.

Satan has copy or a counterfeit which substitutes your individual relationship or fellowship with God. That counterfeit is religion. Religion substitutes your personal spiritual responsibility to have fellowship with God.

God created Adam and Eve. Why? For fellowship. God didn't create religion. Satan appeased man’s flesh, and religion came into existence via man's desire to be disobedient to God.

mhmdhsyn(1) Disputed
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So we are here without an instruction? without a purpose? if the god created us then he have to show us how to live.

iPhi(239) Disputed
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we have instruction. a purpose. He did. see Bible. post any questions/comments you have.

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Domain: Deist

Kingdom: Theist

Phylum: Monotheist

Class: Christian

Order: Protestant

Family: Non-denominational

Genus: Churches of Christ

Species: Moderate

Supporting Evidence: The One True Religion (en.wikipedia.org)
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The Head-Origin: Jesus (c. 4 BC – c. AD 30 / 33), also referred to as Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus The Christ.

Principle Text: The New Testament (The "Gospel": New Law), the Bible includes supporting texts found in the OT for background info (for the Patriarchs, Jews, etc..), but separate and apart from the New Law.

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Atheism is the one true religion.

Based on terms of probability, I mean.

Then again, quantum mechanics has taught us that the universe isn't necessarily what it seems. If one takes Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle into account, it is possible that there are a wide range of answers and all of them are equally true.

iPhi(239) Clarified
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so then you know for a scientific fact that there is no God...?

wouldn't you have to be God in order to make this statement....???

i don't follow your logic. there may be a wide range of answers, however i'm only interested in the ones that are True.

False things are not equally True with True things. 0 =/= 1 , however 0+1=1 ;) let's start from here

Hypothetical(68) Disputed
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so then you know for a scientific fact that there is no God

There is no scientific evidence suggesting there is one. If I told you I've proven objectively that God doesn't exist, would you believe that without evidence as well? If so that was a quick argument.

wouldn't you have to be God in order to make this statement....???

God of the Gaps #1,634,363,464

Hootie(725) Disputed
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so then you know for a scientific fact that there is no God...?

No, I'm saying that is the most probable situation based on the currently available data. I assumed your question had to be answered creatively because it is impossible to answer objectively. You would literally have to be God to answer your question objectively.

wouldn't you have to be God in order to make this statement....??

See above. Your question necessitates me to be God in order to answer it objectively.

i don't follow your logic.

Then study harder.

Porkchops69(15) Disputed
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No I dont know scientifically there is absolutely no God. I do however know, that there is scientifically zero evidence of your God. You dont need to be a God to say there isnt one, that's just common sense thinking, if you go with the fact the only thing that religious people constitute as proof of a God, is a book, of which there are hundreds of copies of.

Bronto(2017) Disputed
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Atheism is the one true religion.

Based on terms of probability, I mean.

Gonna need to see your math on how you found the probability.

Porkchops69(15) Disputed
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God= creator of everything and everyone. Right. Just like Poseidon controls the sea, and Ra makes the sun come up every morning, and set every night. Think it's not true? That's because it's not. Its mythology. Just like the God you claim to be more probable, or at least implied, than there being no god.

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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NOM you Socialist love you some MOOSLIMES just look to London !

iPhi(239) Disputed
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so what you're saying, Patrick, is that science is the one true religion?

atheists say the darndest things
Porkchops69(15) Disputed
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Makes more sense to go with something we can look at under a microscope with our own eyes, and test theories, and prove, then blindly follow a book that doesn't even prove anything. But I guess that's just logic, it seems harder to come by these days I guess🤷‍♂️

Let me mention something that I believe separates Christianity from most other religions.

First off, any religion that is man made would have a hard time painting ALL men and women as having an evil human nature and deserving of Hell. Men are an egotistical bunch if you've noticed.

In my mind, the words in the Bible would never be written by men because most human beings think of themselves as basically good people. The Bible says there are no good men, not one. It says without faith in Christi, no one over the age of accountability is deserving of heaven.

The issue of Abortion pretty much proves what the Bible says about there being no good men or women, and not deserving of Heaven.

What man would create a religion that says to turn the other cheek, to forgive even our enemies, to put other's before ourselves, etc.

I believe Christianity to be the one true faith for many reasons, including the reasons just explained.

iPhi(239) Clarified
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which flavor of Christianity...? there are so many choices these days, how is one to choose???

FromWithin(7736) Clarified
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People not willing to accept God's word as written will twist it to fit their own lifestyles and beliefs.

You will notice how in the past few decades, Liberal Churches have popped up to fit this Progressive Political Correct culture.

We now have Feminist Pro abortion churches, we have Pro Gay Churches with Gay Pastors, we have Churches who deny what the Bible says about homosexuality, we have Churches who say people can get to heaven by supposedly being good (or what the world considers good that is, which includes killing baby's that God says he knows in the womb), we have Churches who believe other religions will go to Heaven, etc. etc.

Basically man made cults where anything goes. What amazes me is that these people refuse to just admit they don't really believe in anything, and simply want to transform Christianity to fit their personal lifestyles. I believe these new age Churches are false Churches who are actually rebelling against God.

Maybe you were speaking to all the different Protestant denominations such as Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, etc., or talking about Catholicism.

Most Protestant denominations are Christian because they believe that Christ is the only way to Heaven. They might stress certain parts of the Bible, more than other parts, such as Speaking in Tongues, Baptism, gifts of the spirits, etc.

Catholics do believe that Christ is the way to Heaven but they focus much more on things not in the Bible such as Praying to Mother Mary, having Confessionals, Priests not marrying, etc.

I do not judge Christian denominations for their differences as long as they believe God's word and what it says concerning Christ being the only way to salvation, but when they go against God's word as these new age Liberal Churches are doing, I believe they are false Churches and would never set foot in their four walls.

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What is the One True Religion? Change my mind.

Hello i:

Oh, the people who speak in tongues surely know shit that I don't..

excon

iPhi(239) Clarified
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like spanish, chinese and russian? they know the same stuff you know, just in a different language.

if you are referring to self deluded persons who speak gibberish in order to "validate" their religious beliefs, i'm afraid you are incorrect. they know much less than you and are not helping when it comes to religion. we already have enough ignorance in this world, there is no need to keep compounding it.

excon(13064) Clarified
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like spanish, chinese and russian? they know the same stuff you know, just in a different language.

Hello again, i:

Yeah.. I was joking bout them..

Seriously, though.. What about the preachers who say if you give 'em ALL your money, you'll become WEALTHY?? That's gotta be true, right??

excon

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Hello i:

Oh, the people who speak in tongues surely know shit that I don't..

excon

But STUPOR STUPID you claim to be a JEW !!!!!!! What CONFUSED IDIOTS you Leftist truly are !!!!!!!!!!

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There is only one religion where those created screwed the pooch and their Creator decided that He loved them so much that He suffered a life of ridicule and persecution, and finally died the most horrible death the Romans could devise so they could be saved.

Now, consider human nature. Is it plausible?

Yes. It is.

Could you imagine a loving Creator doing this?

Again, yes. After all, what loving parent wouldn't give their life to save their child.

Think about it.

excon(13064) Disputed
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Is it plausible?

Hello G:

It's ABSOLUTELY plausible.. But, plausibility does not equate with truth..

excon

Grugore(849) Disputed
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There is no proof. But the evidence is there. You know the truth. You simply reject it. You poor fool.

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Hello G:

It's ABSOLUTELY plausible.. But, plausibility does not equate with truth..

excon

STUPOR STUPID are you a JEW or not ?????????????????

iPhi(239) Clarified
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is it logical to believe in Christianity? is it reasonable? rational?

is Faith ever justified?

are there better theories than Christianity to determine our origin and purpose in life...?

can simulations tell us where we/they came from? can science/evolution teach you about Morality..? predict the after-life??

if there is a God should we use Science or Logic to find Him?

iPhi(239) Clarified
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does probability help?

how probable is it that there is a God and that He is the Christian God...??

show your work.

The one true religion is the religion that is the OLDEST!!

>> and..... which religion is the OLDEST??? PAGANISM *

Plain and simple.

Yes the Semitic DESERT god has a hold now. It’s because the semite was CLEVER- they have a written text which paganism lacks. But just because something is written doesn’t necessarily mean it’s TRUE! Very convincing- but don’t mean it’s True..

Why did the SEMITE make a written law???

>>> to make SLAVES of the illiterate and CONTROL the sheep..

iPhi(239) Disputed
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the oldest religion is when God spoke to Adam and Eve the first people on Earth. then came Patriachs then Judaism then Christianity.

that's it. oldest to the current.

Illuminati33(68) Disputed
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the oldest religion is when God spoke to Adam and Eve the first people on Earth. then came Patriachs then Judaism then Christianity.

Then how do you explain the countless other cultures which predate the genesis story by thousands of years which all have different beliefs?

iPhi(239) Disputed
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also a religion's age =/= Truth. a false religion can be older than a true one.

Illuminati33(68) Disputed
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also a religion's age =/= Truth. a false religion can be older than a true one.

If it's the truth then it's not a religion at all, it's just the truth. A religion is a belief system, objective reality is not. Objective reality is what it is regardless of anyone believing in it, but religions require belief and change according to what people believe. Therefor no religion is truth, and no truth is religious in nature.

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Worshipping me. Now go crank some heavy metal, practice some sodomy, smoke your Mary Jane and study that evil-lution. You're gonna die, there's no good reason to believe there's anything beyond death except fear of nonexistence. You've got a limited window between now and then to enjoy it and leave a better place for your kids, so stop wasting your time with wishful thinking.

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Devil worshippers are in a very small group that get to claim that they will get exactly what they asked for. On the plus side, they know exactly what will happen to them in the afterlife. For what that is worth. At least they aren't delusional.

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So true. Atheists are always bitching about how a loving God would never send someone to Hell.

What they are ignoring is the fact that our Creator died and paid the price for our sin. It's a free gift. It doesn't cost us anything.

Atheists are like someone drowning and someone throws them a life preserver, and they shout "get lost. I can handle this."

How stupid is that?

God does not send anyone to Hell. They decide to go there. God is simply giving them what they asked for.

No one goes to Hell unless they deserve it. And everyone who WILLINGLY rejects God's free gift of Salvation deserves it.

They are saying that they not only don't need God, they honestly believe that they don't deserve to go to Hell. Idiotic pride.

Porkchops69(15) Disputed
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Jesus christ. Finally something that makes half a shit of sense. Rock on brotha 🤘