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 What is the best way to control a country? (7)

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What is the best way to control a country?

Now what i mean by this is that they types of government. For example a democracy, communism, dictator and so on, oh and also tell why. 

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To control a country, is to control its government and its citizens. The best of your choices would then be dictatorship.

Jace(5222) Clarified
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Not necessarily. Dictatorships can be incredibly unstable, particularly if they are excessive in their application of overt control mechanisms. Democracies and other governmental mediums can have greater stability and longevity by comparison, using more subtle/soft control mechanisms, while still retaining power within a small collection of persons (e.g. the United States).

Whatever "ism" a nation is run by, the best way to control that nation is to control the media. There is only one possible reason that Obama got elected the 2nd time & it was the fact that the media was biased for him & made sure that Romney's gaffes were magnified while burying every Obama's gaff (absolutely no debate over this unless you are one of the mindless masses that believes what media tells you). Do you remember during the debates when the moderator lied about what Obama had said concerning Benghazi to hurt Romney's point? That's just one of a thousand examples.

A media controls the people's minds. They can make any politician look good such as Bill Clinton (regardless the past rape allegations from when he was Governor), or they can make a person such as Bill Cosby look terrible over his past rape allegations (he's been speaking out against the problems in the Black community so they flaunt his past rape allegations while making Bill Clinton the voice of the Democrat party).

Most people are easily led & will believe what they hear on TV news, etc.

To have the media on your side such as in Arab nations where the Taliban & others control what the people hear, is to control the power.

daver(1771) Disputed
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BS

The biased media in the US preaches to it's own choir. People pay attention to the news that they want to hear. The rest pay no attention at all. The vast majority of Americans do not know what's going on. They concern themselves with their own daily struggles. To allow the uncaring, unknowing and uninterested to vote on the direction of our great nation is to put ourselves subject to the whims of fools.

FromWithin(8241) Clarified
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I agree with what you are saying but the problem is that the VAST MAJORITY of media is Liberal biased & they preach to their agenda of helping the Democrat party. Proof in point is Obamacare. The vast majority of Americans did not support it but the Liberal media kept preaching to it's pro Socialist Democrat leanings. Fox news is the only conservative or moderate leaning news show on tv. The majority of Americans are against Obama's executive orders on immigration, etc. but the Liberal media preaches to his agendas.

Yes, the low end users of our social programs, who never pay taxes should not be electing our leaders but that is never going to change. This is why the Democrat party takes middle class taxes to pander to that low end voting block. Our nation is tipping to a welfare state and tax payers will no longer elect our leaders. That has been the strategy by the Democrat party for decades & it is now coming to fruition.

I truly believe Democrat politicians are traitors to our constitution. Is the GOP perfect? Of course not but they believe in smaller Government which is what we desperately need.

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How did he manage to do that and the Republicans no? They're so fucking useless aren't they :/

Some sort of monarchy. A good monarchy seems like it would have the best chance at controlling a country.

Jace(5222) Clarified
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What exactly constitutes a "good" monarchy?

My image of a good monarchy is a monarchy where the ruler has absolute authority over his subjects. The ruler would probably use religion as they have done in the past to make the people believe that he has been selected to ruler by a divine power. That way more people follow the rules of the ruler.

Either that or maybe the Chinese method of ruling where different households were brought to power by the mandate of heaven which basically meant that if the current ruler wasn't effective the god's would allow the people to overthrow the ruling family and the gods would select a new family to rule.

So, something along these lines.

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Within any given population there is an average intelligence and an average will to power. Historically, power has concentrated in the hands of those with higher a higher than average will to power and the superior intelligence to secure it. Every form of government without exception has manifested in accordance to this reality, though with varying degrees of stability and longevity.

The historically prevalent model of government has been dictatorial, being characterized predominantly by overt displays of control. Such governments are not necessarily the most stable or long-lived and evolution has developed alternative models and (re)introduced them throughout our history. The less authoritarian models (e.g. democracy, republics, etc.) strike me as the most viable in terms of both stability and longevity. They still concentrate power in relatively few hands, but with an illusion of equality as well as other tools of subtle social control. Such models are also more capable of incorporating restive elements that possess both a will to power and the capacity to achieve it, whereas the authoritarian model most almost exclusively suppress and destroy such elements through overt force because their very existence is antithetical to such authority. An additional benefit of the less authoritarian model is that it can offer actual recourse for more severe forms of governmental abuses, which provides a feedback conduit to the minority in power informing them of excesses they may not have readily perceived which if left unaddressed could lead to destabilization (or, in the case of an authoritarian government would have to be overtly controlled).