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What is the best way to handle this situation???

I work at a gas station, every night. Three weeks ago the wife of the owner of the store gets a beer run, last week, I got a beer run, and last night, we got a beer run.

It's the same person, and doesn't look too threatening. It happens around the same time on the same days. Friday/Sat. around 7pm.

I've told the owner about it but he hasn't said anything. My co-worker and I are thinking about taking the matter into our own hands. Should be be vigilant or should we play by the rules of government?

What should we do, and how should we do it?


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I'm thinking that I should chase him down, attack him (defend myself), take what he has with him back into the store, call the police, and show his tab to the police officers when they arrive and request that he be jailed for shoplifting.

369 days ago | Tagged As: Vigilant
- jessald(1347) Disputed
2 points

Probably not worth the risk. He could have a knife, you never know.

368 days ago | Tagged As: Lawful
- Bradf0rd(1299) Disputed
2 points

I will have four people, baseball bats, golf clubs, and a brick for the driver's windshield. I'm not worried about a knife.

367 days ago | Tagged As: Vigilant
- sparsely(483) Disputed
2 points

Don't end up going to jail yourselves. But the police probably won't be responsive enough to catch him if you let him get away. And you don't want to unlawfully detain him, so you need to wait until he's left teh store with the beer before you do anything.

No need to go getting all worked up, hurt, or jailed, over a 12$ item that doesn't belong to you anyway.

Before you really consider doing anything, consult the owner. If shit goes awry in your little bust, he may be civilly liable for any injuries, etc.

For many stores, like Wal-Mart, the potential of million-dollar settlements dictates their loss-prevention policies moreso than actual loss-prevention.

It sounds like this guy would be a case where it's no question, but if you're really trying to help your employer, ask him, he may not like the idea.

But then again you may just be wanting to play vigilante.

366 days ago | Tagged As: Do what the owner wants
2 points

If you're not a partner in the store, it's not your beer.

If the owner doesn't care, why should you?

If you can convince the cops to set up an ambush, then do that.

If you notice that the individual always takes the same brand, refill some empty bottles of that brand with water and have some fun messing with the individual. ;)

369 days ago | Tagged As: Lawful
1 point  

I'm certain you would say the same thing if it was your gas station/convenience store, huh Joe?

I have no idea how much this person takes...just one for himself, a six-pack, a 12 pack or what but the money being lost is your responsibility when you're on duty there. It doesn't matter who else doesn't care but you should! It speaks to ones character, honesty and integrity.

I would call the police and try to set him up for next week. If he comes in the same night and just about the same time every week then you can bet he won't change that unless he has to for some odd reason. The end result is the plain clothes policemen are there to catch him in the act and you are not involved. Does he do this with people in the store or when there's no one there?

You say that he seems innocent but you really never know. He could be carrying and that would be too dangerous of a situation to put yourself in. Messing around with someone who is bold enough to walk into a convenience store/gas station and simply take what he wants is a very bold move. It sounds like fun but perhaps you'll be sorry if you mess with him.

369 days ago | Tagged As: Lawful
- ThePyg(3122) Disputed
2 points

well, he said the owner doesn't care... so...

369 days ago | Tagged As: Lawful
- joecavalry(8878) Disputed
1 point  

I don't know. It looks like Bradford could handle himself. Look at all those muscles! Besides, he's not alone and I've seen Bad Boys and those criminals are not too bright.

Bradford, just tazer the SOB.

369 days ago | Tagged As: Lawful
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