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I would have to say everytime I post something about Christianity I am always the one who gets down voted a lot. And atheists get like 3-5 upvotes and no one else up votes my arguments,
Everytime when I go on its always more down votes then upvotes. When are you people going to accept my belief and move on with life instead of down voting me. I respect your beliefs.
Go ahead and be a fool if you think that my arguments suck because every Christian person uses the same evidence as I do. I provide logical evidence about the existence of God, but some atheists around here thinks that the evidence that I give is not evidence when it is real evidence.
Go ahead and down vote me a lot on Christian debates in fact the reason why I get down voted is because I am a Christian and Jesus said that many people will dislike you because of me. I wanted my effiency to go up to 94% but because of atheists who continue to down vote me I won't get to it. I might as well get my effiency all the way to 0 because all I see is downvotes and thats fine with me. I understand what is happening and why it is happening and I encourage people to down vote me often because I rarely often get up votes which is not that suprising really.
Atheists don't believe in the damn bible, partially due to its promotion to sexism, slavery and hate (which I can directly quote to you, if you don't believe it.)
The problem is you continue to use the bible as "evidence" when everyone else in existence understands it is not.
Because the Bible is evidence and I can proof that the Bible is evidence. Here is archaeology in the Bible some of the archaeologists that found stuff.
For many years skeptics have worked very hard trying to find fault with the Bible.
But through their incredible efforts, they have only managed to establish stronger and
stronger evidence proving just the opposite—that the Bible is in fact totally accurate.
Some of the best evidence for Biblical accuracy comes from the field of archaeology
where modern day research has unearthed solid evidence for the people, places and
events mentioned in the Bible. The Bible talks, for example, about a King named
Herod. Recent archaeological digs have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that such a
king did in fact exist and that he lived right where and when the Bible says he did. For
years historical scholars doubted that Herod even existed, but now coins bearing Herod’s
name have been unearthed proving that the Bible was right. Archaeological digs at
Samaria, Caesarea, Jerusalem, Jericho and Masada all have uncovered items proving there was such a king.
1. Do not copy information from other websites unless you are willing to show some form of reference.
2. The information you have provided does not cover the supernatural elements of the Bible, nor does it justify the blatant sexism and discrimination it contains.
Clearly the author based the bible on Earth, and named some places in the bible after real places on Earth (i.e The Red Sea) and rulers of countries (i.e Kind Herod). This does not mean that the whole bible is true. People have been writing fictional novels for centuries based in real world locations, and rulers of countries, but that does not necessarily suggest that the whole novel is actually real.
Most Marvel comic books take place in real locations (primarily NYC).
Some comics have featured real people like President Obama and David Letterman.
If, a few thousand years in the future, someone picks up a Spider-Man comic and sees him meeting Barrack Obama (who is recorded in history) in New York City (the ruins of which can still be visited), are they to conclude that Spider-Man and all of the events in that comic were real?
And you might say that it would be obvious that those events were fictional, because Spider-Man does things that humans can't do.
Yep, so did Jesus. In fact even though people don't typically come back from the dead, Jesus did. Just like dozens of superheroes...
Way to evade the point. Some things being true does not mean that everything in the book is true. These 500 witnesses could easily be fictional, lying, wrong etc. Without outside evidence, we have no more hope at verifying these claims than we do the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
You have to realized that in jesus's time they only thing they had to record things down was pen and paper and word of mouth and why would God lie about what happened? I believe that everything in the bible was true .
Yeah, but its not like the only people with pen and paper were the disciples. Many other documents exist from that time or earlier, but none confirm the supernatural happenings in the Bible. And this seems like a pretty darned big gap in human history. The events in the Bible are epic, literally of Biblical proportions. It seems quite odd that we don't have outsiders perspective of them.
Why would God lie? Well, I don't accuse him of lying, because I don't believe he exists. And even the Bible itself does not claim to be authored by him, but by men he supposedly inspired.
Yeah, but its not like the only people with pen and paper were the disciples. Many other documents exist from that time or earlier, but none confirm the supernatural happenings in the Bible. And this seems like a pretty darned big gap in human history. The events in the Bible are epic, literally of Biblical proportions. It seems quite odd that we don't have outsiders perspective of them.
You have Matthew, Mark, Luke and John who all 4 were Jesus disciples and they witnessed Jesus do the miraculous signs they all had different writings but they all believed in Jesus Christ and saw that He died on the cross for our sins and also rose from the grave.
We do have outside perspective. Here is evidence that I found from a book I have called 301 proofs and prophecies proving that God exists by Peter and Paul Lalonde
For many years skeptics have worked very hard trying to find fault with the Bible. But through their incredible efforts, they have only managed to establish stronger and stronger evidence proving just the opposite—that the Bible is in fact totally accurate. Some of the best evidence for Biblical accuracy comes from the field of archaeology where modern day research has unearthed solid evidence for the people, places and events mentioned in the Bible. The Bible talks, for example, about a King named Herod. Recent archaeological digs have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that such a king did in fact exist and that he lived right where and when the Bible says he did. For years historical scholars doubted that Herod even existed, but now coins bearing Herod’s name have been unearthed proving that the Bible was right. Archaeological digs at Samaria, Caesarea, Jerusalem, Jericho and Masada all have uncovered items proving there was such a king.
Do you really not know that none of the people who wrote the bible (including Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Paul) ever met Jesus?
They never witnessed anything - not miracles, not the death, not the resurrection - nothing
That's why out of 4 gospels there are three different versions of Jesus' last words...
Matthew 27:46 -
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" - which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Mark 15:34 -
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" - which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Luke 23:46 -
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
John 19:30 -
When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
Actually they were eyewitnesses if you look at this verse it proves they were.
2 Peter 1:16 " For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty."
Those verses are three different people who were Jesus disciples just like you had 3 witnesses of a automobile accident three of the people would tell different details of the accident and would not be the same as all three of them. Does that mean the 3 witnesses are false for seeing the same thing but saying it differently? No.
All of the places in the Bible that Jesus went to our real places and events that happened
Can you provide any solid, non-Biblical evidence that proves or even supports that the events surrounding Jesus as depicted by the Bible are actually true? This guy was going around preforming astounding displays of magic only some 2000 years ago - he should have been the talk of the land! With all the people that supposedly witnessed/were subject to these miraculous events, surely someone other than an apostle managed to write down something about it? Lots of other, more trivial events of that era were well documented, conformable form several sources and described in detail, wasn't this? You should have a plethora of resources from which to draw upon to furnish non-Biblical proof that Jesus was in fact a magic-wielding demigod with a public speaking streak, because if he was he would have been well known and his actions well-documented.
Go look at the Is God really good debate and look at all the agnostics and atheists who posted an argument and some of them already have 6 or 4 points. And as soon as I log on. I get 1 down vote (of course!) and 1 up vote.
Wow nice real nice. Keep up your stupid work at down voting me. Seriously why do I have to get negative points all the time why can't it be someone else besides me! I am tired of crap like this.
Uh, me whilst arguing sense to prayerfails. Or me whilst explaining the difference between gun control and tyranny. Or me whilst describing the inherent flaws in proving faith.
