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 What is the use of anger? (31)

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What is the use of anger?

Happiness is a response to feeling safe. It increases our communication skills so we can form an allience with people whom we share a common interest with.

Sadness is  response to unwanted change. It increases our thinking skills so we can accept and adapt to the change.

Anger is a response to frustration. It increases our physical strenght and devoids us of thinking skills which further increases the problem. 


Wait, thats not right at all

Using biological reasoning, I cannot find any reason as to why we evolved with such an emotion. And to make this question even thicker, I cannot find a reason for having the ability to hold a grudge and take revenge when as we all know,  this is a self-destructive behavior that amounts to nothing more than digging our own grave.

Even the military rebukes the use of emotions and the #1 rule among martial artists is to never let your emotions cloud your actions.

I asked this question in some internet forums but we cant seem to find a good answer. Anyone here who can have something to share?

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Anger is a response to frustration. It increases our physical strenght...

There used to be a time when increasing your physical strength actually helped with survival. We weren't always living in cities.

Centifolia(1319) Clarified
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Question: Then what is the explanation for revenge and holding a grudge?

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Not holding a grudge wouldn't make sense to me. If someone wronged you, forgetting it seems kind of silly. They would just do it again. Revenge is just punishing poor behavior.

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I think that before humans, surviving in nature didn't require much thinking. For a troop of baboons anger is likely useful in situations when compeeting troops are challenging their territory. Similarly anger has been useful for humans, but in our society and with our intelligence I don't think it's very useful most of the time.

Centifolia(1319) Clarified
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Yeah. We also decided that anger is a defense mechanism that we have outgrown through intelligence. But truth be told, it is not really a satisfying answer

Rage. Whether good or not it can be fun to watch in war movies.

Also it can help you fight your way through bad situations. :D

The Center for Evolutionary Psychology believes that anger in humans functions primarily as a bargaining tool. It does so by pressuring the other party in a conflict to "recalibrate" his or her assessment of the angry individuals position in the dispute or bargain; this is referred to as the recalibration theory of anger.

They also don't believe it is necessarily a response to frustration, per se; frustration and anger seem to be two distinct emotions.

It sounds like a stretch put just like that, and I'm not so sure that I can reword it without skewing what they're trying to say, so check out this link:

http://www.cep.ucsb.edu/topics/anger.htm

Centifolia(1319) Clarified
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We tackled that theory and indeed its a good one. But one hole in it is the fact that it did answer how the emotion of desiring revenge and holding a grudge came to be.

It does not help our survival and even introduces us to bigger dangers

thousandin1(1931) Clarified
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That's not a hole in the function of anger.

The desire for revenge and holding a grudge in general are strongly correlated with anger, and typically (though not always) result from anger, but they are still separate distinct feelings and separate from anger.

But, if you insist that they must be considered a part of anger, it still isn't a hole. It's simply a case of the benefits of anger outweighing the drawbacks in terms of genetic success; a tradeoff if you will.

For a trait to be 'selected for' does not require that it aids our overall longevity; it only requires that it assists us in reproduction. If anger makes an individual more likely to survive to reproductive age, and more able to create offspring at that time, the trait will be passed on even if the drawbacks make long-term survival less likely. In this model, revenge and holding a grudge are not specifically traits that were selected for, but rather side effects of a trait that was selected for.

Few traits are positive in their entirety; genes for increased musculature carry a cost in that the body requires more energy to support the additional mass, for example. Genes that result in less musculature result in a body that requires less energy to maintain, but is also physically weaker. Genes for a powerful immune system carry a cost in that the body requires a more varied diet to provide the raw materials for the various antibodies et al. Genes that result in a weaker immune system also result in a body that can subsist on a less diverse diet, but carries the cost of more vulnerability to infection. Genes for stereoscopic vision result in the ability to perceive depth, but carry the cost of requiring a larger proportion of the brain to handle vision. Etc, etc.

It is a delusion that causes suffering, it has no use only to harm ourselves and others.

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Replace the word 'it' with the word 'Buddhism' and it makes sense too.

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Do you ever have a conversation with some one when you are not trying to aggravate them?

This video explains it. Skip to 7:35.

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I just got back and is it just me or all the arguments has disappeared?

EDIT:

I just called Andy for help. I hope he can fix this

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Happiness is a response to feeling safe.

I don't think that's really accurate. People on roller coasters tend to look happy, but I don't think they typically feel safe.

Centifolia(1319) Clarified
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They have a good trust on the safety measures of the ride and good experiences has made them comfortable.

First timers will say otherwise.

GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
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Some people get an adrenaline rush from doing dangerous things (bungee jumping, skydiving, etc.). It's pretty safe to assume that the adrenaline rush makes them happy.

It motivates you to fight. .

anger is fucking stupid and there is no point in it. i hate angry people

Coldthedog(244) Disputed
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Face palm. So you hate angry people. I guess it takes one to know one.