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 What is your highest value? How would a society based on this value look? (24)

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What is your highest value? How would a society based on this value look?

Which value do you hold above all others? Examples of values might include freedom, order, equality, utilitarianism, scientific progress, spirituality and so on.

What would a society that holds your highest value as it's highest value look like in practice? Can you think of any possible problems with such a society?
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The greatest of these is love..............................................................................................................

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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You support killing viable unborn babies every time you vote for the Democrat Party, and you have the nerve to talk about love?

You are so lost, you would not know love if it hit you in the face.

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I think the French Revolutionaries nailed it here. Liberté, égalité, fraternité (liberty, equality, fraternity) would be among my highest values. Curiosity also. Other important values would be honesty, love, friendship, scientific progress, and free speech.

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Hello W:

FREEDOM is my highest value. The United States was founded on that value.. But, there's a lot pushback from Americans who don't think freedom is a good thing..

Oh, they think freedom is good for themselves, but not for everybody.. It's kinda crazy, isn't it?

excon

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FREEDOM is my highest value

Damn Con. And just think, you could have valued prostitution and/or rabbit porn. What a pity that you value my right to point out my right to say the far lefts' positions make about as much sense as punching myself in the crotch for being hung like a stud mule.

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I can't say that any one of them would be my highest value, I hold scientific study and spirituality ( which are seen as opposite ends of the spectrum) on a pretty equal scale depending on the circumstance. I think the problems with having a highest value is that it could lend itself to extremism which would ultimately be a detriment to all.

WinstonC(1225) Clarified
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"I think the problems with having a highest value is that it could lend itself to extremism which would ultimately be a detriment to all."

Thanks for the reply. As far as I can tell, everyone has a highest value whether they have thought about it or not. When the pursuits of science and spirituality conflict, surely there is one side you lean toward in general? I suppose this is made more complicated by the fact that there are always other values involved. For instance abortion contains a conflict between the values of freedom and human life in addition to the conflict between science and spirituality.

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Yes, there are many times I have a hard time balancing one value over another, particularly in cases where I have to make myself realize my values may not align with someone else's, so whose values get to trump another?

They also change. I can not in good faith tell a woman who is making a difficult decision what she may or may not do with her body, now as time progresses and she goes past the first trimester my values at protecting life strengthen. So in your instance, in the first trimester my values of scientific study and freedom have a heavier weight on what I'm ok with. Then as the fetus grows into a child, gains spirit, emotion, feelings....my value of spirituality and life strengthens and counter balances, eventually overtaking scientific value. I hope that makes sense.

I don't think any one value should have such a high regard that it actually stagnates and decreases all others no matter the circumstance. I think, as I said before, when circumstance is bypassed because a certain value is higher than all else, it can be a detriment.

I'd say my highest 'value' is bargaining.

I am one of these people who even in the most dire circumstance would barter to give you my toe to save myself a finger or the other way around depending on whatever I think I need most.

There are not always winning strategies in life, sometimes it's about losing the better loss... Choosing the lesser evil.

This is so important to me and I believe that societies that constantly negotiate and bargain about policies and rights and operate on lesser evil basis are the better places to live in. The places in the world that operate on absolutes of any kind or even worse that bargain for the worse outcome are the least pleasant places to live on Earth.

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I hold human life as my highest value. My life is my primary value. The recognition that others value their own the way I value mine produces in me a high valuation for all human life.

I derive all other values from this primary value. The values presented by Classical Liberalism during the enlightenment all lend to the quality of my life, and ultimately to the quality of human life in general.

GoodListener(603) Clarified
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Why do you not extend that to animal life?

xMathFanx(1722) Clarified
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@Amarel

I derive all other values from this primary value. The values presented by Classical Liberalism during the enlightenment all lend to the quality of my life, and ultimately to the quality of human life in general

Do you consider yourself a Classical Liberal?

Amarel(5669) Clarified
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The Enlightenment lot had a diversity of views. So yeah, that’s not an unfair label.

WinstonC(1225) Clarified
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Interesting, I would have associated the values of classical liberalism more with freedom but you're right, they did indeed greatly increase quality of life. It's also interesting how values interact with one another; for instance in the case of classical liberalism greater freedom resulted in a greater quality of life.

Amarel(5669) Clarified
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I believe the enlightenment philosophers promoted freedom with the same fundamental value in mind, whether this was explicit or not.

Holding human life as a fundamental primary value also leads to the adoption of other values commonly considered to be virtuous.

My highest value is honesty.

My society would look like one without a right wing.

xMathFanx(1722) Disputed
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Nomenclature: My highest value is honesty

Nom, you subscribe to a large number of rationaly untenable positions and demand that others unquestionably accept it as "truth".. You are light-years away from haveing "honesty" as your highest value..

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Nom, you subscribe to a large number of rationaly untenable positions

@xMathFanx, you are making up your own version of reality again. Take your medication, go to anger management class, learn how to spell words properly, stfu and leave me alone. Your ceaseless sniping is positively infantile. Are you 13 years old or something?

Jesus, get a life mate.