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Antitheist Secularist
Debate Score:24
Arguments:25
Total Votes:24
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What type of atheist are you?

In other words, should people be encouraged to believe in their fairytales when they're too weak for the truth? 

Religious people can also comment, because they're still an atheist to other religions. 

Antitheist

Side Score: 14
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Secularist

Side Score: 10
2 points

I'm on the Antitheist side , Hitches puts it beautifully and I fully agree ...

" I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful."

Side: Antitheist
2 points

I fully agree also. I don't give a damn if someone wants to believe in heaven, hell, or fairy tales. Just keep it within your believers and don't try to influence everybody in the world that THEY must do the same! Doing that has killed FAR more than the automobile and Cancer put together! Believe, and enjoy your trip to Valhalla ... or wherever! (If I may use a favorite Trump word, ;-)). Be a witch, Satanist, Christian or even a conservative, I don't care as long as you don't force others to follow!

I DO think religion is one of the most dangerous things in the world.

"Such are the heights of wickedness to which men are driven by religion." Titus Lucretius Carus

Side: Antitheist
1 point

Very well put and I agree religion is incredibly dangerous and it is used as a justification to destroy , demonise and demean societies

Side: Antitheist
sylynn(626) Disputed
1 point

I've heard him say this, but I take issue with such a definition as it is somewhat inaccurate. If anything, such a statement would simply make him anti-religion, but not necessarily anti-theist.

Side: Secularist
1 point

Well, that's what an antitheist is.

Except when you're using the other definition, one opposed to a God or something like that.

Side: Antitheist

Not always.

Some times, for example when they are dying, it wouldn't matter to their small lives what they believe in.

Letting them brainwash others is, always, unacceptable.

Side: Antitheist
1 point

I was raised in the Anglican Church but as I got older and went to University I began to fathom what a complete load of total shite religion and the Bible was. Except for some of the sayings of Jesus was alright. But most the rest and especially the old testament is bollocks.

So I stay away from religion and the churches and most wankers who are bloody godists. But I won't attack them unless they start trying to press their shite on me and me mates. If there ever detection be a Creator it would because Deist and not a Theist God liked that psycho Yahweh .....That's why input me post on this side. Anti theist but open to a reasonable idea of a creative intelligence. Yahweh was an idiot and me doubts he could create a hole in the mud. The reason he booted Lucifer from heaven was because Lucy was smarter. Like how a stupid boss is intimidated by a smarter employee, so the wanker takes a piss and cans him.

Cheers, mates!

Side: Antitheist

Atheism is a cult. The reason the unholy alliance of Atheists and Islam politically, makes no sense, is because they actually use the same symbols and serve the same taqiyya god... The alliance is supernatural...

https://www.facebook.com/The-Beast-is-Strong-in-This-One-273041423117102/

Side: Antitheist

I'm Atheist Atheist. No one actually believes something came from nothing. Nothing meaning the definition in the dictionary.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nothing

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: not any thing : no thing

Side: Antitheist
1 point

Sorry, but in my quest to be tolerant and to do no harm I'm actually not as harsh as some of the rest of you. I'm willing to acknowledge I don't have all the answers, which means I can't throw any and every religion completely under the bus, but in that same train of thought I can't accept when they boldly claim that they in fact DO have all the answers.

Which ultimately means EVERYONE else on this website is going to yell at me, from either side of the spectrum on this topic.

Meh

Side: Secularist

You're like a wall being rammed by both sides.

I'd guess it must not be pleasant.

Side: Secularist
Grenache(6053) Clarified
1 point

Like I said at the end... Meh..........................................................

Side: Antitheist
1 point

I first saw this debate a couple hours ago but it took some time to parse out my thoughts on the matter. As there are various definitions of the terms surrounding atheism, I will first lay out my definitions:

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Atheism: lack of belief in God or gods

Anti-theism: An opposition to theism; or the belief in a god

Secularism: a principle that involves two basic propositions. The first is the strict separation of the state from religious institutions. The second is that people of different religions and beliefs are equal before the law.

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That said, I frankly don't understand why these are opposing views. Why couldn't an anti-theist also be a secularist? The reason I chose this side is because though I am anti-religion, I wouldn't say I'm anti-theist. However, though I do not agree with religion and I do believe the world would be better without it, I do support an individual's right to practice their religion (this does not mean I encourage it, I simply support their right). I do however draw the line when these beliefs encroach on others, especially in matters of politics and science (which does place me as a secularist).

Side: Secularist
1 point

i like cheeseburgers, that is my religion hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Side: Secularist
1 point

You might feel more welcome somewhere like /b/.

Though that can be a fine place sometimes, your words will almost certainly be removed in a few minutes.

Side: Antitheist

I'm Atheist "Atheist". Why? I've watched Atheists magically adhere to ancient Baal worship...

https://www.facebook.com/The-Beast-is-Strong-in-This-One-273041423117102/

Side: Secularist