Honestly I don't think anything will happen in 2012. The whole fuss about the Mayan calendar ending is irrelevant; it's a circle. It doesn't end. When it reaches the end of one cycle it starts a new one. No doomsday or "age of enlightenment" or anything. In fact, the only reason December 21, 2012 is given any reverence by the Mayans is because it will be the the end of the first cycle on their calendar, which would be a noteworthy date. Though I do wonder if the Romans celebrated the completion of the first cycle of the Julian calendar when it was implemented.

As far as the whole Anunnaki, Nibiru, reptilian man-devouring alien stuff goes... I'd love to hear someone make a case for that theory. I tried debating with some people on Youtube about the subject, though most of them accused me of being a reptilian agent, trying to get humanity's guard down so the aliens could invade or whatever. Here's just a quick argument to get started, though:

The only possible candidate for a "planet X", otherwise known as Nibiru, would be a brown dwarf. Brown dwarfs are failed stars, gas giants like Jupiter that have much more mass and have much greater surface temperature. There's no way life can develop there, and if planetoids do orbit the brown dwarf, it is highly doubtful any one of those would possess the same atmosphere, temperature range, and gravity as earth (not to mention the same solar radiation exposure). Any one of those factors, if radically different would keep the reptilians from being able to survive on earth.

Also, Zecharia Stichen said the Sumerians recorded the earth "standing still" when Nibiru came about. This would obliterate all life on the planet, since we are currently moving about 1000 miles per hour. Suddenly stopping the rotation would not halt the atmosphere's movement, causing wind speeds so fast they would sweep everything not anchored to bedrock - trees, topsoil, buildings, animals - into the atmosphere. The accounts of the Sumerians are woefully inaccurate, because if such a planet did pass by close enough to gravitationally affect the earth, all terrestrial life would be wiped out. Switching the magnetic poles, as also proposed by the reptilian theorists, would cause massive earthquakes and volcano eruptions worldwide due to the movement of the core (this includes the 7 supervolanoes, guaranteeing total annihilation for surface organisms).

And if Nibiru has an orbit of 3600 years, no life would be possible beyond bacteria and perhaps some very simple oceanic life, because mass extinctions of that caliber at such short regular intervals would make it impossible for life to evolve on land as much as it has.

But, anyway, what does everyone else think about 2012? Doomsday, a time of enlightenment, nothing special?

Hillary will run for president again, duh.

Wait... then... maybe it will be the end of the world!

The exact same thing will happen in 2012 that happened in 2000. Lots of panic by people thinking the world is going to end, then a big fat nothing.

"Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"

According to The Bast Theory, here is what we have to look forward to in the year 2012:

In One Sentence: Every so often a force from space causes global cataclysms and mass mutations.

Pole shifts have occurred in the past and will occur again. There is no known terrestial mechanism that can cause pole shifts, so the trigger could well be extra-terrestial. With the universe being the mystery that it is, we should accept that anything is possible.

Mass extinctions and rapid evolution occur at the same time as cataclysms. Rapid evolutionary change can only be achieved via extremely high rates of mutations, and by mutations that are not random. Unicorns and dragons once actually existed, they were mutant strains that didn't survive very long.

Cosmic rays cause mutations. A huge influx of cosmic rays would cause high rates of mutations. Although scientists are unsure about where all the cosmic rays come from, the source might be the same as what powers the pole shifts.

The ancients were aware of the dangers of cosmic rays and cataclysms and encoded information about them into their calendars, myths and monuments. I also believe that pyramids may have been designed as cosmic ray shelters.

The theory is based on these assumptions:

1. Ancient cultures communicated with each other in some way

2. Pyramids and mounds had a purpose other than burying royalty

3. Evolution doesn't generally occur in small stages

4. Global cataclysms have occurred within the last 50,000 years

5. Our galactic neighbourhood could be more dangerous than is commonly acknowledged

Though this is not the first time I've heard of the end of the Mayan calendar, it is the first time I've heard reptilian man-devouring aliens. Here's a word who believe that . . . "crazy." Crazy with many colorful expletives in front of it.

To me this is like debating why there wasn't a nuclear holocaust in 1996 and the planet wasn't overrun by frightening chrome-skeletal robots extinguishing what's left of mankind with laser beams.

I'm going to take "mass mutations" to mean that I get super powers and look forward to the day when I have run at he speed of sound and shoot fire out my eyeballs . . . probably not at the same time, I don't want to catch myself on fire.

Also . . . did you say that Unicorns and Dragons existed? Oh where good sir, before I cart you off to the loony bin, is there evidence that these creatures existed except in myth?

If there is any luck, a bunch of cultists and religious zealots will commit mass suicide.

Britain will have spent 10,000% of the original Olympic budget.

...Nothing. What will happen in 2000 then? Y2k? Me thinks not.

It's a year. I don't care about science cause half of it's crap.

I've taken a look at your link, a plug for a book by Graham Hancock. The first thing I saw set the tone for how legitimate this whole thing is: "According to their calendar, the Maya believed that their world would end on Dec 21, 2012." No, they did not.

What will happen on December 21, 2012 is a spectacular and rare event; the winter solstice where our sun will cross the point of the Galactic Equator - something that hasn't happened in 25,800 years. The Mayans were mathematically and cosmologically brilliant people. They did not believe 2012 was the end of all time, or the end of the world, merely the end of the Great Cycle (which, as all cycles do, start over once they end).

The Mayans calculated this conjunction, noticing the changes the earth's wobble created in the position of the stars. Using what is called the Long Count, they decided December 21, 2012 as the end of their Great Cycle and worked backward to see when the calendar would begin: August 11, 3114 BCE. The brilliance of this, however, was that the 5,125.36-day Great Cycle is actually one fifth of the Great Great Cycle, known scientifically as the Platonic Year; the length of the procession of equinoxes. The Mayans measured time in circles within circles within circles - there is no end, merely a new beginning. So strike one for that site.

Strike two: Hancock is a journalist. Now, I'm not saying journalists can't make a good argument (as David Strahan did in The Last Oil Shock), however this individual claims the "serious academics, who went through university adhering to strict scientific principals" are mistaken when they say there's not enough evidence to support the claims being made. If this man thinks he is more knowledgeable than university professors with years of experience in these fields, enough so to claim that "sane, regular people" should listen to him and not the professors, then his "theory" should be put under all the more scrutiny.

Strike three: No evidence is provided for the assumptions that he mentions; unfortunate, because we can't do a lot of arguing on those, which dictate the validity of his entire theory. However, there were a few that I'd like to address. The allegation that ancient cultures communicated with one another is completely unfounded; only circumstantial evidence such as pyramid building (which differ in appearance from culture to culture) or flood myths (which is almost as absurd as the argument that reptilian gods in multiple cultures support the Nibiru reptilian theory). Evolution does occur in small stages; it is a very slow, gradual process. There are times when the number of mutations is much higher than normally, such as with the cambrian explosion, however it works slowly for the most part. And I think we're all well aware of how dangerous our galactic neighborhood is - gamma ray bursts, asteroids, solar flares... we're well aware of the danger.

And about the dragons and unicorns... I would just LOVE to see evidence of that. I saw a picture of a one-horned goat once, but that's about it.

Now to the cataclysmic events he speaks of: Evidence has been provided for a solar polar shift to occur in 2012, not an earth pole shift. The sun's magnetic poles shifted in February of 2001, signaling the arrival of a solar maximum, and a second one is due in 2012. Pole shifts have occurred on earth, of course; they are a natural process of the planet. The intervals between shifts are varied, from tens of thousands of years to millions. The last polar shift occurred 780,000 years ago, and the reversal took place over thousands of years. So no cataclysmic shifting going on here; just a gradual process of the earth.

Hancock claims that mass extinctions and rapid evolution occur at the same time as cataclysms. Yes... at the same time as events such as a huge freakin' asteroid slamming into the earth, radical temperature changes, massive volcanic activity, or a sudden change in weather and climate. They do not, as far as we know, occur during equinoxes or solar magnetic reversals.

Cosmic rays cause mutation, says Hancock. Indeed; good thing that we have that thing called an atmosphere and magnetic field to shield us from the sun's more potent radiation and solar wind. If he's talking about gamma ray bursts, then that wouldn't cause mutations, it would just kill us all. This is a great quote, though: "Although scientists are unsure about where all the cosmic rays come from, the source might be the same as what powers the pole shifts." It's really unfortunate he doesn't cite some specific examples, because right now all I can do is laugh. The pole shifts on earth are caused by (get ready for it)... the earth! At least, that's the consensus so far. It's been found that external causes of magnetic field reversals are not likely, due to a lack of correlation between massive impacts and pole reversals, and so far we have not spotted any massive planet with an elliptical orbit swooping into the inner solar system out of nowhere to mess with the earth.

"The ancients were aware of the dangers of cosmic rays and cataclysms..."

They knew about cosmic rays? Really? Every culture has their doomsday stories, but I wasn't aware ancient cultures knew about radiation and "cosmic rays".

"I also believe that pyramids may have been designed as cosmic ray shelters."

I think we've all seen a cutaway diagram of a pyramid where the burial chamber and passageways are shown. I doubt 200 people (I'm being real generous here) could possibly fit into one of those to escape a "cosmic ray" blast. Speaking of which, who uses the term "cosmic ray" anyway? Someone who doesn't know what he's talking about? Perhaps.

I think it's safe to assume this individual's book will be a dud, if anything. It's hard for me to argue against it because there's no evidence or examples put forth, but this is just my initial impression of the material. I don't think the Bast theory is of any concern. I'm not assuming you believe it, Loudacris, I'm just giving an argument for the sake of the debate.

Cheers Muaguana, I had even more fun reading your reply than I did writing that argument. At the end of the day I think 2012 is going to be a big dud but you know I love stirring the pot! And for the sake of full disclosure: I think that book is going to bomb too.

I appreciate it; stirring the pot helps keep things interesting and furthers (and/or creates) discussion. Your input is always welcome.

i think that every little thing is going to drown and die in heat or water. PORNO

Ridiculous

Pole Shifts will do nothing but make your compass point south rather than north, and electric generators run backwards, which would still produce power. Pole shifts are caused by the spin of the mostly iron core at the center of the earth rotating in a near frictionless manner. It would be like a top spinning in space with a crust around it that stays stationary. It would invert once in a while, but nothing else.

Unicorns and Dragons? Maybe large goats and dinosaurs.

A "Cosmic ray" is nothing more than electromagnetic energy from the sun, we already deal with that today and a change in magnetism does nothing to effect this. Look at other planets, they all receive sunlight even though their magnetism varies in strength and pole positions.

The ancients also invented ideas of god and so forth which there is no proof of beyond the "ancients". We are already wise of the idea that the earth has had at least three ice ages, has switched in polarity a number of times, and we can tell what the atmosphere was like hundreds of thousands of years ago according to chemicals found in glaciers... you would think that someone somewhere would have undeniable proof of aliens eating people and mass mutations if we can know all of the rest.

1. Via body language, though limited. Vocal language, we already know this, and written language, we know this too.

2. The Sphinx in egypt was no originally a tomb, but I don't see how this has any correlation.

3. Mirco-Evolution is the only form of evolution backed by tons of evidence.

4. They have, we know this already.

5. There is no common knowledge on our "galactic neighbors" other than we do not know of them at all.

What is your point???

The end of the world as we know it. This world is headed for a global disaster of biblical proportions. I mean, Old Testament real wrath of God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

The Olympic games are going to be in London!

Haha, that was literally what I was just about to write, but thought I'd better check to see if anyone else has mentioned it first.

I covered that one already.

Do you remember Y2K? 'nough said.

YAY!! can i shoot lazer beams out of my eyes...

that kinda sounds like fun

You mean when nothing happened? (;

Never been on here before. Just out of curiosity...for those of you who believe nothing is going to happen or nothing is in transition, no shift in consciousness, no nothing...

Are you basing all of your beliefs strictly on science? And if so how do you explain so many accurate prophesies. Can you completely dismiss any and all ancient scrolls speaking of the New Age? If you do your studying outside of the box of just science then do you not find all the links to what is just a "prophecy" eerily close to what has accrued in the last 2o years?? All the events....

A little less than basically nothing. Same thing always happens with all of the mumbo jumbo about the world ending and all that jazz. What happened in 2000? Ooo what about 666 ?

in 2012 the dead will rise. it's as simple as that. no god will come down and kill us. but only we face the greatest fear ever. the dead.

whats good everybody now personally i just joined this group so i dont kno if anyone is gonna take me seriouslly or whateva i dont care i figure i give it a try... now in 2012 i have watched the trailer for the new movie and it was freaky ass hell at the end if you watched it at the end it said........... Find out the truth resurch 2012..... personally i just thought it was freaky but what do i know right lol na but go with me for real..... the damn myans predicted this i would go further but u gotta email me so i dont waste my time... the myans predicted this stuff the chinese the profits and more.... not only that in case the average american didnt know our government isnt so nice ither... but i go into that if u are a serious person who has watched blackout america or like site gist or just sum movie in the store or watched the NEWS... but 2012 seems to me like it could just be the same old stuff like Y2K or whatever else but that could just had been like false advertisment.... this could be the real deal if ya feel me... now we had hurricane katrina now u see the new thsunami that stuff is crazzy so if this is just sum media stuff witch it could be dont get me wrong i hope so i have 2 kids and a wife but when my gut tell me sumthin im usually right but i could be wrong im just an average man myself livin the simple life tryna make a penty its hard for a nigga ya diggg so if u hit me up ill have sum coo as convasations and just like to kick back facts if u belive a little not sayin all but just questioning the what ifs because thats all you do when you think so get at me

Sometimes someone says something that is just suiting to what I was thinking. That would be you, and your responce. Congratulations!

I want the ability to slightly change the saturation of colors.

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