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What would a fair society look like?

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Another way (but not the only way) to frame this question is:

If you got to implement your utopia, your own vision of what society should be (whatever that looks like) what would you do with the people who disagree with you and your vision that you brought into being?

- Hitler killed them or put them in camps to be enslaved or tortured.

- Orthodox Muslim nations imprison, kill, exile, or condemn to second class citizenship those who do not want the society to be subject to Sharia.

In a free and fair society, the answer is nothing; you would do nothing with or to the people who wanted something different.

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Amarel(4879) Clarified
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In a free and fair society, the answer is nothing; you would do nothing with or to the people who wanted something different.

This position cannot be defended in all cases. It depends on what it is that people want different and what they do for their own cause.

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marcusmoon(578) Clarified
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Hello, Amarel.

This position cannot be defended in all cases. It depends on what it is that people want different and what they do for their own cause.

Fair enough.

It depends on what is entailed in the phrase wanted something different and whether the society is actually fair.

If the utopia is actually fair, and if wanted entails actions, and if those actions regarding something different include violating the sanctity of someone's person or property, then absolutely, the "do nothing" principle does not apply.

This is because basic fairness (as well as societal stability and prosperity) requires the respect of people's persons and property. In order to remain fair, whatever the other structures or configurations of the utopia, the society must protect people's persons and property in order to maintain not only the utopia, but also the society.

If on the other hand, wanted does NOT entail actions, OR if those actions regarding something different do NOT include violating the sanctity of someone's person or property, then absolutely, the "do nothing" principle must apply. Otherwise, the society is NOT actually fair. This is because basic fairness requires the respect of people's persons and property, even by those seeking to uphold the utopia.

However, I recognize that these principles are very broadly painted.

You are totally correct that there is definitely room for quibbling about the details, like whether slander constitutes violating person or property, what constitutes validly protected revolution or civil disobedience, and whether law actually constitutes a valid contract between government and the people. Certainly the answers people settle on after the quibbling set the parameters for both the utopia and the exceptions to the "do nothing" rule.

Thanks for your input. It was a critical contribution.

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The Care Bears. The Care Bears should be our role models.

SIEG BEAR

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What would a fair society look like?

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Like the good ole US of A.

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A fair society is one where everyone is dead because to exist means you have unfair advantages.

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outlaw60(14227) Disputed
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DUMMY women have an unfair advantage ??????? How is life there in Antarctica for women ??????????

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outlaw60(14227) Disputed
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DUMMY do women get to vote there in Antarctica ????????????????????

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A portrait of fair society would be where the individual is free from coercion and free from the use force being initiated against any single individual in society.

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What would a fair society look like?

A "Fair" society would have corn dog stands, big pretzel stands, cotton candy, carnival rides, games, livestock being shown off.

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1: dogs would be allowed to poop in the house

2: ice cream would be illegal

3: they would hand out free weed in school

4: Every milk bottle would come with instructions on how to milk a cow

5: they would make 30 more episodes of game of thrones

6: in one of those episodes, there would be a sex scene between jon snow and the night king

7: mexico would be given back half of america

8: trump would have sex with his son

9: water would be free

10: dogs would be given equal rights in north korea

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RustysGoblin(97) Disputed
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mexico would be given back half of america

Then given back to the natives that the Mexicans stole Mexico from.

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Amarel(4879) Disputed
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“All of my debates start with me saying something that is correct and end with someone else saying something retarded.”

-BananaHole

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BananaHole(42) Disputed
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“All of my debates start with me saying something that is correct and end with someone else saying something retarded.”

-BananaHole

Yes, thanks for proving my point you dirty little tampon bag.

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Like the good ole US of A.

Hello again, Crotch:

Lemme expand on my above answer.. Life isn't fair. The good ole US of A isn't fair. But, it's the FAIREST place in the world.. Although the goal seems unattainable, we STRIVE for fairness nonetheless.

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ChuckSchumer(24) Disputed
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Lemme expand on my above answer.. Life isn't fair. The good ole US of A isn't fair. But, it's the FAIREST place in the world

Good thing those gun toting, white, Christian men founded such a nation with rights endowed by our creator.

If they'd been today's Democrats, they would have let the Redcoats stay and demanded censored speech of descenters, all after letting the redcoats continue to tax the hell out of the tea, & there sure as hell wouldn't have been any "God given rights", now would there?

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outlaw60(14227) Disputed
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Hello again, Crotch:

Lemme expand on my above answer.. Life isn't fair. The good ole US of A isn't fair. But, it's the FAIREST place in the world.. Although the goal seems unattainable, we STRIVE for fairness nonetheless.

excon

SUPER STUPID spews more incoherent NONSENSE LMMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!

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outlaw60(14227) Disputed
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Hello again, Crotch:

Lemme expand on my above answer.. Life isn't fair. The good ole US of A isn't fair. But, it's the FAIREST place in the world.. Although the goal seems unattainable, we STRIVE for fairness nonetheless.

excon

SUPER STUPID are you referring to Jeff Bozo and Bill Gates ??????????? Both Demorats you STUPID IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!!!

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