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What you get out of Atheism

NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!

You get nothing out of atheism, you lose everything to it as it binds you in death by your sin taking you down to Hell.  

You get nothing out of atheism.  It takes everything from you.   You bet your soul that Hell is not real and you LOSE IT ALL!!!!

Sorry, friend.

Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.



Dawkins tells of how he was molested by a pedophile and approves of "mild" pedophilia.
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3 points

That's a big gamble for a huge hypocrite such as yourself. You are an atheist since you call yourself God, and you abandon all benefits of atheism. That's a bold strategy, let's see if it works for you.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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You are a child spewing your ideology, then taking little if not any input from the retorts you get and ban what you don't like. Then, of course, you get in your last word! It has been a year and you've learned absolutely nothing! I wonder what kind of egotist you must be to have not changed at all in this time. You make no confrontations where you actually retort to your opponent based on their argument, you never even attempt to create a factual basis and every new debate of yours is an antagonising strike or insult against the PEOPLE you should be debating against. I hate people like you hiding behind the name of Christ as a banner for their ego parade.

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So stop reading my stuff, idiot. Why take the time to read my stuff, then come say something stupid and get banned? You enjoy getting the boot?

Atrag(5666) Banned
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An atheist is someone that is comfortable to live with uncertainty and doesnt need to delude themselves for self comfort.

Again and again you reveal yourself as a fake Christian. You believe in Christ not because you see him as the Truth but rather he gives you the best deal. And fuck me side ways is he easy to follow.. you can be an arse, like yourself, but just say you love him and thats it. Paradise.

Atrag(5666) Banned
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Religion people are so pathetic. Its really nauseating.

Atheist: "your baby is dead. This is very sad"

Christian: "Your baby has been recalled by the almighty and hes the happier than he will ever have been with you!!"

Atheist "you have raped that child. You are a bad person"

Christian: "Dont feel guilty! Just repent and you will go to heaven. That child didnt believe anyway. He will burn for all eternity".

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The preacher of atheistism talks like he is a pedophile......... .

Atrag(5666) Disputed Banned
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I am not the one that thinks child rapists go to heaven just because they say they love God while their victim burns in hell forever. That would be you. Be saved all you child rapists!!!

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Try to think up something at least equal in the stupidity of this statement and save it for my next discussion. Thanks.

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when i was a atheist i was wealthy as far as money and posessions but very poor in spirit and morals. plus i was what you call "soul sick." and now i am poor in money but rich beyond description in spirit since God is my best friend, confident, master, boss, and of course Father. the irony here is that when i gave up everything i gained everything.

and all i have to do to remain Saved and in God's Grace is do His will, which is talk with Him every day and do what i can to seek out and destroy evil. i was just imprisoned for that, like a martyr. but oh my! I got out early...gee i wonder why? oh thats right! God did it! He needed me out in the World to do more of His Bidding.

Nothing good came from atheism for me. maybe for some it does. or atheists think they have everything. till they die and wake up in Hell, then they know all along they had nothing.

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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Listen.........

Just because you did too many drugs and too much booze as a rock musician and fried your brain to the point of insanity, thus necessitating a placebo-like conversion to Christianity and make-believe Gods, does not mean that Atheism is in any way detrimental. It is in fact the DEFAULT position of life. Fact is, if you guys had not been taught or indoctrinated about God, or read about him and thought "I need this!" you would not believe in Him or know of him since he doesn't exist and does nothing measurable or even detectable in your world.

I just proved this last claim on a debate I conducted here where I challenged Christians to tell us how their god works in their lives. Guess what? Nobody could. Where were you, anyway? Community Service? LOL

If you need your God, fine, just don't disparage logic and reason because your brain overloaded and fizzled trying to deal with that stuff while sober.

SS

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Your "default position of life" is not true. We all have an innate knowledge of God because we are made in His image. We all have an innate idea of morality, which implies moral law which comes from a law giver. The fact that you decided to believe you never would have thought of God if nobody had ever told you God rules over all of nature does not prove you never would have thought of God. The tiniest passing thought or feeling that God must me there proves that atheism is a choice. To say "babies are born atheists" is to claim you know more than God.

You have not proved anything when you try to disprove God. The only thing you are proving is that you are dying, losing the soul you don't believe is you. I think I answered you pretty well in your challenge to Christians to give you proof of the reality of God. I can't prove a rock is harder than your head if you won't believe it until after it clobbers you and knocks you out. You framed your question in the Dawkins style of "give me evidence". You have repeatedly stated you will accept nothing as evidence of the reality of God and that's what you are getting from atheism...nothing. See if you need God when your eyes close in death. See if you can call out to Him from Hell. Be a fool if you want to, believe there is no God and no Hell for sinners who don't want God's presence due to the fact that His presence exposed their corruption.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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You know exactly who are you are arguing against when you say there is no God, and you know why you want there to be no God, it's because He is contrary to your unrighteousness and you prefer to follow your own lusts, be they sexual, material power, drunkeness, whatever. You know God is against all of your sin and you love your sin more than life so you bet your soul there is no God and fight with everything you can muster to get rid of Him....and your only making yourself be gotten rid of by God in death and when you don't want Him in your life He has no place for you but eternal dying in Hell believe it or not. Your losing, friend, sorry to tell you that but you're losing and THAT is the ONLY thing you are proving.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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Demon Hinter is not allowed in my discussions, sorry. He is not a Christian, Unity Church is not Christian as they deny the deity of Christ, His bodily resurrection from the dead and reality of eternal condemnation of Hell for unrepentant sinners who do not want the Savior. Demon Hinter has repeatedly denied these three most important fundamentals of the faith of Jesus Christ. His kind of "Christian" and his "Christ" have nothing to do with following Jesus Christ of the Bible who conquered death after carrying His cross and bids His people to pick up their cross and follow Him.

I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I, but Christ (the risen Savior by His Holy Spirit) lives in me, and the life that I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave Himself for me.

Sorry to interrupt your conversation with Demon Hunter, but I'm done with him. His demons are going to tear him to pieces or he'll completely change his tone and if that happens which I do not expect, I will pick up on it and ease up on my decision to ignore him and not allow him in my debates.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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And by the way, calling Atfag a monkey was pretty accurate for describing the way that person likes to ride my back and put on a show. I expect him (or her, I lean toward believing it's a woman, probably a lesbian) to get back on it's monkey seat before long. It seems to have taken a break for now.

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In all honesty, free time, free thought and the lack of fear that every decision I make could result in me burning inside a fire ridden cavern for the rest of eternity. Also I still seemed to have retained my common sense, something in which I find most religious people lack.

It's actually quite peaceful.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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So ask yourself, If Hell is real, why are you not burning in it now? Since you claim to have no fear of Hell, it should not bother you to pose this question to yourself and answer it honestly...........but you won't because you are a fool. Any fool can be happy and content and feel peaceful, keep on saying you have common sense and see where it gets you. You don't have enough common sense to carry on a conversation with me. You had many chances and every time your speech and behavior is reprehensible and you are banned.

Punk.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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You don't have free time, it's borrowed time, fool. You owe God for your time and making yourself believe that you owe God nothing will get you nothing but death and you'll wake up in Hell where there is nothing to indicate God is good, God will give you the reality you want but you won't be able to fool yourself into thinking you are at peace

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Punk. .

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Those fools. Don't they know with Christianity you get to space off in your pew for an hour a week and then snack on a cracker? That's about it though.

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idiot .

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The truth.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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The truth being your life has no meaning, purpose, or value as it is only a chance event of chemical fizzes?

The truth that all you have and are adds up to dead, so nothing really matters because you really are not real?

The truth that there is no such thing as right and wrong?

The truth that the only truth is nothing matters?

It all adds up to nothing in your "truth", so nothing is true?

You're an idiot. Don't bother trying to respond, I don't even want to hear it. Fool.

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I am a happy, healthy(physically and mentally), smart, and caring athiest and I believe my lack of religious beliefs has guided me into being the person I am.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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So you are justified by atheism, yet still losing everything in death....death proving you are not even justified to live and you lose everything in death and get nothing out of atheism.....

There is one thing you get out of atheism you don't want...you get stuck in the fire of Hell, when you wanted nothing in death and get nothing in atheism, it fails to get you out of Hell ......

And you do not lack religious belief, you simply have made yourself into your own god hoping to get out of responsibility in death. You are trying to justify yourself, and that is a religion. Atheism is a religion. It's a religion against God in which you feel you are getting something by all you are really getting is death and that is nothing...and worse than nothing you are going to end up in Hell shocked to find you don't get out of being you.

You're only fooling yourself in death and atheism gives you nothing.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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I got bad news for you, the person you are is worthy of death, and there is nothing atheism can do to change that fact. You are forever worthy of death and you wont' get out of being you in atheism through death.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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I decided to just ban you outright because somehow I get the feeling that you are extremely perverted.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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The person you are is rotting in death, corrupted in soul and body, no good for life. All you get out of atheism is fooling yourself and that is worse than nothing. You'll wake up in Hell if you insist you must see Hell before you believe it justifies the eternal existence of sinners.........and you will remain there if you get there because you rejected God's offer to justify you Himself by His resurrection from the dead after He paid for your sins with His own blood, and your sin will remain with you in Hell since you chose to keep in for yourself and God will remain righteous and just while you will remain unrighteous and justified to exist only by the fire of Hell. It doesn't have to be that way if God gives you time to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved from Hell. Maybe you have gone too far and can't repent of your sin because you love it more than life, maybe you never will believe on Jesus and be saved. You won't, will you?