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Whats your opinion on magic (no bunny in the hat kind)

If your like my, a imaginative person who loves fantasy then this is for you, but it seems that this has caused SOME people to say i'm in a cult so if this keeps going on, this debate will be taken away
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What we think we know comes down to a combination of a) what our physical senses experience, b) what our minds think through, and c) whatever else we're told and whether we believe it or not. Odds are that despite the combination of a, b, and c, we still only know a fraction of what we need to know, and indeed some of what we think we know may be wrong. Anyway, magic is in that gray area where we think we already know one way or the other but then we don't really, do we? But I'd say this, even if it somehow does exist, it's highly unlikely it matches to our pop culture stories about it, like Harry Potter.

I personally do not think magic exists. I'm just trying to be fair in analyzing the possibility.

Regarding the quip by another that if you believe in evolution you believe in magic, the exact same quip can be made about believing in God and creationism.

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If magic is real, I want some of that. Gimme some power. NOW!!!!!!

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I'd kill everyone with it. Unless mind control is an option.

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If you believe in evolution, you believe in magic. If you seek magical powers, you are dabbling with demons and on your way to Hell.

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You are an idiot and don't know the first thing about evolution. I'm done arguing with you or anyone else about it, however, since I figure that with all the proof and mountains of evidence we have for it that if you still don't believe you are simply too far gone in the head. Too spun, man.

So get the fuck out of here with your hocus pocus lamebrain idiocy. We have all tired of you long ago. Nobody. Wants. You. Here.

As far as magic, yes, what some call magic DOES exist. But its not really magic. I know for a fact that Demons and Witches exist, on a supernatural level. They are not magic however, as they consist of very tangible and real energy sources. Just like the force we call "God" does, and the force we call "Satan."

Things that we take for granted today would have been construed as magic not so very long ago! Maybe only a couple of generations ago! Thus it is the same that while today we think of the Supernatural as magical, we will one day in the not too distant future be able to detect and even quantify or measure these forces.

People once that radio was a sign of evil, and marked the end of Society. They said the same about Television, and then the internet. Today many who don't know say the same about Demons and Angels. Soon, like radio and TV and the internet, their origins and workings will be explained and understood and they will no longer be resigned to the world of the Supernatural.

Remember where you heard this!

God Bless.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
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YOU ARE IN A CULT, YOUR CULT IS HINDU AND OCCULT MIX, NOT CHRISTIAN AS YOU PRETEND, AND IF YOU WANT ME TO STOP SAYING IT THEN DON'T RESPOND TO MY POSTS. I'M STILL GOING TO SAY IT FROM TIME TO TIME WHEN I SEE YOU SAYING THINGS ABUSING THE NAME OF GOD AND CHRISTIAN AND "SAVED", BUT NOT AS MUCH AS IF YOU WON'T STOP RESPONDING TO MY POSTS. I DO NOT READ YOUR MATERIAL BECAUSE OF YOUR THREATS AND YOUR BOASTING OF HOW YOU HAVE PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED REAL CHRISTIANS LIKE MYSELF IN THE PAST.

Unity Church is a cult, a mix of Hindu beliefs and occult practices, one of the mind science cults pretending to be Christian. The God of Unity Church is not the God of the Bible any more than Allah is. Unity Church denies the deity of Christ the same as Islam and all cults. Unity Church denies the bodily resurrection from the dead accomplished by Jesus Christ after He died for the sins of man. You cannot be a Christian if you reject these points. Unity Church rejects these points dogmatically and is not Christian. Anybody who thinks they are saved in Unity Church is on their way to Hell, and fooling themselves if they think they have eternal life. You can't be saved if God is not the Savior, He can't be your Savior if you insist He did not pay your price when He died for you, He can't be your Savior if you insist He did not conquer death for you. You are in your sins and on your way to Hell if the blood of God Himself is not the covering for your sins.

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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So, people who believe in nature being able to change are believers in magic, and people who believe in a guy talking to a burning bush don't believe in magic. You are a crackpot.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed Banned
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if you believe life arose out of non-life and intelligence came from nothing, yes you believe in magic and you have no magician to explain the tricks. You'r a fool, Fartman.

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So evolution is magic, but parting the red sea, talking to a burning bush, killing all the first born and all that other stuff isn't?

KayneOfNod(317) Disputed
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depending on the culture's lore, Magic comes from spirits or Demons or Shen or gods. While yes, a power granted by God could be seen as magic, the more accurate description is a "miracle" the chief difference being that Magic is the will of man telling a god what to do, whereas a miracle is the will of god telling a man what to do.

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Definitions seem to back up this caveat, as magic is considered "the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces." and a miracle is "a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore considered to be the work of a divine agency." some would say they're effectively the same, I think there's a few degrees of separation that are important here.