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I will fight to my dying day Trump can do NO wrong
Debate Score:123
Arguments:75
Total Votes:140
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When Trump KILLS democracy, are you gonna lay down, or join the resistance?

Hello: 

57 years ago I took an oath to defend my country against all enemies, domestic or foreign..  That oath NEVER expires.

excon

I will fight to my dying day

Side Score: 52
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Trump can do NO wrong

Side Score: 71
2 points

I love my family and my country and if the day comes that I have to fight or die to save either of them I will do it.

But with that said, it has not been proven that this is yet the time. Sure, Trump is a complete reversal from everything we've seen for 30 years. But he represents one of many possible motivations within the self interests of citizens of a democracy. You don't get to kill a President just because you are opposite their political motivations.

If he started directly killing groups of US citizens without due process, then it's the time.

If he were proven to be a traitor and it's the only way to take him out, then it's the time.

Even if he wasn't directly hurting US citizens but instead was committing human rights tragedies, war crimes, etc., on a grand scale, then it's the time.

So let's wait and see, shall we. In the meantime he is still the elected President of the USA.

Side: I will fight to my dying day
Subcreature(26) Disputed
1 point

You didn't do it when Obama was raping the country. The truth is, you'll sit there and do nothing because you stand for nothing.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
Grenache(6104) Disputed
2 points

How coiuld Obama be "raping the country" when supposedly he was just an incompetent boob? And when did he ever say or do anything relevant to suppressing civil rights, censoring the press, or oppressing or banning particular groups of people?

Side: I will fight to my dying day
Subcreature(26) Disputed
1 point

"But with that said, it has not been proven that this is yet the time. Sure, Trump is a complete reversal from everything we've seen for 30 years"

So was Obama. You stood there like a sheep. You stood there with your thumb up your butt, and did nothing because you stand for nothing. It's okay, we took up the slack because we are men. We got this. The wussbags can hit the showers and "hope for the best".

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
Grenache(6104) Disputed
1 point

Wait. Obama was a total reversal? I thought every Democrat ever in office was guilty the same as him? Get your story straight.

And you're a man taking up the slack? No, you're a man with far too much time to surf the web who tweaks a half dozen troll avatars to advance redneck politics.

Side: I will fight to my dying day
FromWithin(6663) Disputed
1 point

So under your logic, people would be within their rights to have taken Obama out when it comes to human right's tragedies such as No restriction abortions of viable babies for any reason (INFANTICIDE)! He supports it!

It matters not if the Democrat Party has kept it legal as they once did with slavery. They are all just as inhuman as Obama, just like any other person who supports it with their vote.

Was slavery committing human right's tragedies even though it was legal?

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
Grenache(6104) Disputed
2 points

When are you going to learn that 90% of the developed Western world disagrees with your absolute antiabortion stance? Never, of course. It's not an accurate anaology when you're by far in the minority in your belief that it's wrong.

And if Obama, or Trump, or anyone brought slavery back then yes I'd agree with taking action to end that, too.

Side: I will fight to my dying day
1 point

News flash...the United States of America is not a democracy, it is a Republic. I guess you flunked your history and government classes.

Side: I will fight to my dying day
excon(8952) Disputed
1 point

Helo Now:

Words matter.. I did NOT say that America IS a democracy, but that our SYSTEM is a DEMOCRATIC system.

So, do you wanna enter the debate, or insult me further?

excon

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
3 points

I'm up for the insults excon. Do you want to start with yo momma jokes?

Side: I will fight to my dying day
NowASaint(1388) Clarified
1 point

Our system is not a democratic system, it is a republican system. A democratic system is majority rule. A republic uses democratic vote to choose representative leaders.

You are the one who is being insulting to the United States of America. The "resistance" you are promoting is fascism.

Side: I will fight to my dying day

1)I think you are lying because you don't exhibit characteristics of someone that old.

2)The left already tried to kill democracy. Remember my link on Obama defying the Constitution 21 times? Knock knock knock. Hello? Mcfly? Anbody home?

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
excon(8952) Disputed
1 point

Hello brontostupidfuk,

You mean I write like a youngster, therefore, in your pea brain, I AM a youngster. And, THAT is your soul reasoning for calling me a lair.. DUDE!!!

1) That is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever seen you post..

2) DUDE!!

excon

Side: I will fight to my dying day
Subcreature(26) Disputed
2 points

1)You spelled "liar" incorrectly...

2)If you'd fought in Korea, you'd understand that foreign cultures are not something we want over here with our brothers, sisters, and kids, or are you a psychopath? Just admit it if you're stupid or insane.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

When Obama was spending like it was a shopping spree, the military was depleted, healthcare tanked, and he was bombing countries like it was a video game, you put up no resistance.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
2 points

Trump won by democratic means and the only way to remove him should be from democratic means instead of violence. If you really care about removing Trump, write letters to your state senators and representatives and get Congress to turn against him. Remember we live in a democracy where the people have the power and no matter what Trump does he can't change that or he will undoubtedly be impeached.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong

It doesn't really matter. You people have to lot at stake about that exit from the Paris Treaty.

And that's when I don't count all the research funds that have been cut.

Consider it the end of American tyranny (and all those withdrawing military operations). US has, pretty much, been dictating world affairs for well over a century.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
5 points

Well how about we get out of world affairs and run our own country and let the world run its own affairs. We'd be debt free.

Side: I will fight to my dying day
1 point

As long as you don't try to damage the world, that is.

No Eastern country, apparently, cares too much about America growing rather isolated. They could even do without it. Except perhaps South Korea.

US, as it stands, is just about the fear of communism.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
Subcreature(26) Disputed
1 point

The Paris Treaty sucks balls. All of the European contracts are about social control by a one world government. We don't want it. Why do you? Are you not smart? This is the same group that thinks Islam is a "religion of peace". We don't want anyone who hasn't read the Quran dictating public policy per Islam because the Quran says to slaughter every last one of us.

Side: I will fight to my dying day
1 point

As a selectionist, I'm not against a species wanting to destroy its habitat.

But that's not something a colony of immigrants should get to decide with its 4% share of population, a country based on the fear of communism and that its people believe to be founded on denominations of an irrational religion.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
2 points

How can Trump kill a system of government in our country that doesn't exist? Last I checked, we're a Constitutional Republic with minor Democratic leanings (the presidential election system, for example).

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
2 points

Im just gonna lay down in bed and sleep.... like always........

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
2 points

What kind of fool keeps spewing such utter garbage as the Idiot Leftists? Tell me how trump is killing Democracy you deceptive extremist.

Obama and the Left were the ones CONSTANTLY filling the courts with traitors who legislate from the bench rather than interpreting the law.

Obama allowed top security documents to be on a private server. We know this because Obama sent emails to Clinton on her server.

If there every should have been a resistance, it should have been against Obama, with the IRS scandal, Fast and furious, Benghazi, private server, Obamacare forcing all Americans to buy his pathetic socialized healthcare, etc.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
3 points

They don't know. The left always appeals to emotions, and rarely appeals to logic and intellectualism.

Side: I will fight to my dying day
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Hahaha. You just admitted to being on the left.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
2 points

The excon took an oath 57 years ago so how old does that make you now excon because you said you you joined the armed services at 17. 57 plus 17 makes you 74 is that right.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
6 points

He ran the first reicht of the vampire coalition in the Middle Ages. He and Yoda go way back...

Side: I will fight to my dying day

The "resistence" are a globalist owned media, Hollywood, and fraternity of billionaires. Liberals are helping these punks put the shock collers around their own knecks.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

I'm not going to do anything. The left is so far gone, that the right just freaking gave up hope, and gave them Trump as an Armageddon present.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

Excon if you know anything you should know is a republic not a democracy. Do you feed at the trough of CNN and MSLSD pretty often excon.........

Side: Trump can do NO wrong

Democracy is more than a political system, it is an idea. President Donald Trump cannot kill an idea. If you are meaning American democracy, as in the democratic system that the United States uses then you are giving Trump a lot of credit. Disabling an entire governmental system? He can't even apply a spray tan correctly. Donald Trump may be an idiot in most situations but he is no monster. For that you need only look to Bashar Al Assad...

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

Id like somebody to explain to me how Trump is "killing" democracy.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

Oh look the two contrary alts are debating themselves again. which one of you is tweedle dumb and which one is tweddle dee?

Side: Trump can do NO wrong