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kids are adults at 16yrs kids are adults at 21yrs
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When do kids become adults

In my fifth period class, we are talking about which age kids are adults. We have 16 years old or 21 years old. Personally I think 16 years old is considered an adult, because at the age of 16, you are old enough to make your decisions.

kids are adults at 16yrs

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kids are adults at 21yrs

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Some people are adults at age 15, some people are still babies at 50.

Side: kids are adults at 16yrs
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The longer you treat them as kids, the longer they'll act like kids. When we changed the drinking age to 21, what happened?

When we assumed most were adults after puberty, they got jobs and led responsible (more or less) lives as young teens. Physically, people mature younger, now, but emotional and mental maturity is stunted because the societal message is that they're children.

This is how snowflakes get created.

Side: kids are adults at 16yrs
xMathFanx(1737) Disputed
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The longer you treat them as kids, the longer they'll act like kids. When we changed the drinking age to 21, what happened?

The drinking age set at 21 is based on the low end of a biological reality. Human brain development continues into (and throughout) the 2nd decade of life and alcohol has a highly negative effect on the developing human brain. In fact, it is known that alcohol abuse in childhood (e.g. teenager, ect.) can (and often does) derail normal, healthy development of ones mind/brain.

Side: kids are adults at 21yrs
EldonG(550) Disputed
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If you want to make that argument, the brain finally reaches peak, on average, at around 25. We should raise it, and really make them anxious, by your point. I'm a fan of small amounts for the younger crowd, at mealtimes, like they do it in Europe.

Side: kids are adults at 16yrs
xMathFanx(1737) Disputed
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When we assumed most were adults after puberty, they got jobs and led responsible (more or less) lives as young teens.

Puberty is when a person is just beginning to seriously develop. The advantage of our species is of our high brain to boy size ratio that allows for our higher cognitive functioning. The drawback of this is that compared to other species/mammals, we are extremely vulnerable for much longer durations as our large brains are continuing to develop into their adult form (which is accomplished in one's early to mid twenties).

Getting a job doesn't make one "mature" and "responsible" (although it does require some level of responsibility). "Adults" of previous generations by and large have not lived responsible lives. They have simply done what is necessary in order to personally survive. Our culture is profoundly anti-intellectual even though intellectualism is far and away the most powerful tool that our species has to survive/thrive. Rather than intellectualism, most Adults have agreed to live in an alternative reality, a Disney Channel Snow Globe of a World, designed to shelter themselves from the "harsh/cold" realities of the real world/universe. They lead lives just like any other Mammal rather than fully developed Homo Sapiens (certainly not 21st century Homo Sapiens).

Physically, people mature younger now

How so?

but emotional and mental maturity is stunted because the societal message is that they're children.

I agree that emotional and mental maturity is stunted in most people. In fact, this is the problem with telling people they are adults when they are still developing. They are more likely to make poor decisions that an adult would be more able to handle which could have serious detrimental impacts on developing human bodies/minds.

Why not just be honest about what we currently understand about human development based on modern life expectancy and label ball-park periods of a persons life accordingly? Why pretend that children (16 year olds are children by essentially every metric) are in the "Adult" portion of their life-span?

Side: kids are adults at 21yrs
EldonG(550) Disputed
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Your first point is largely true - but people certainly mature faster when they take on responsibility. I'm not suggesting we go back to child labor, but if you want them more mature at a younger age, ramping up responsibility matters.

People mature faster physically now largely due to improved diet. I can get you sources,if you would like them.

I am being honest, and I recognize what you're bringing up, here -though I'd really suggest that even in today's society, most 16 year olds are vastly more adult than child.

Side: kids are adults at 16yrs

I've only just started feeling like an adult and I'm almost 40!

I think we are too hard with the rate we expect people to grow up. I mean, if you think about it, what is a 21 year old going to be doing? They are going to be taking advantage of the fact they can now drink legally by being completely irresponsible with alcohol!

Side: kids are adults at 21yrs
xMathFanx(1737) Disputed
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Nomenclature: "I've only just started feeling like an adult and I'm almost 40!"

LMAO

Side: kids are adults at 16yrs
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xMathFanx: "I am under the tutelage of Harvard physics professors."

LMFAO

Side: kids are adults at 21yrs
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Kids can't be adults at 16, because they haven't even finished growing yet. Most girls have, but it's a fact that guys continue growing past the age of 16. How you be an adult when you aren't even fully grown?

Side: kids are adults at 21yrs
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Teens are not adults. I say you're an adult at age 20.......................................................

Side: kids are adults at 21yrs
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There is no biological basis to claim that children become "adults" at the age 16. At 16, one's brain is nearly a decade away from becoming fully developed into it's adult form (with higher cognitive functioning), have essentially no life experience, are still learning the rules of society, ect. ect.

There is no "hard line" for when a child becomes an adult. One of the largest factors deals with one's full biological development (brain development, height, weight, some more memories/life experience, ect.). A person's Frontal Lobes don't reach full development until the ages 21-25 with some development continuing throughout one's twenties and into the early thirties. This characteristic is a substantial factor in what makes us uniquely human. In my view (roughly speaking), a person is a child until their brain develops; a person is a "child" teenager through very early twenties, are young adults for duration of their twenties, and by the time one hits their thirties they are/have been fully biologically developed and have a number of years life experience, thus enter the Adulthood phase of Human development.

There are typically conflations with the role societal conventions play into what is considered an "adult" and "child" based on the amount of responsibility that one must assume (which varies greatly from person to person), while other factors are more pertinent.

Side: kids are adults at 21yrs